Ben Shapiro: Civil Discourse | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[Applause] chief of the daily wire and host of the nationally syndicated Westwood one radio show and podcast the ben shapiro show ben shapiro i appreciate it i always say this the conservatives will come on our show I'm a little jealous of their guts because they've more guts than the liberals liberals don't go on conservative shows they didn't come on this show sometimes so I appreciate cuz you know the crowd is not with you I got that impression yeah and but yeah we should but we ran let's be civil right that's the tone of the day and I'm the fan okay so I'm a fit well let's see if I'm a fan see each other's fan at the end admire but I just want to say we seem to be living in a time of utter tribalism and I think you and I have a few things in common besides we were both uninvited at Berkeley but we've been coy about our affiliation of like I've never really wanted to say I was a Democrat I always voted Democratic but they disappointed me a lot you know you've been coy about a you were Republican you're conservative or I think right now I'm a Democrat and and since all the Republicans are now backing Trump except for the ones who are leaving but he totally owns that party now if you're if you're a conservative aren't you really team Trump well it depends on on what so what I've called myself is sometimes Trump okay there the people said there's never Trump and there's always from sometimes Trump meaning that when he does something that I like I cheer and when he does something that I hate which happens then I boo and I'm blowing as loudly as you are when he does something that's really bad but listen you're very upset about the Supreme Court nominee I am very pleased about the Supreme Court nominee as a conservative right he's doing a lot of things that I like in terms of policy now that doesn't mean that I am shirring his character because I think that it is very difficult to cheer Donald Trump's character nor do I think it's appropriate well what do you like okay so I like the tax cuts I like to tax it hurts me by the way in California but I like it as a general policy ladies he's rich [Laughter] okay okay but see I don't even know what the Republican beliefs are I mean you're a young guy but you certainly remember two years back when they were beliefs were completely the opposite of what they are now when it's free trade they were giant deficit hawks yep the Tea Party was all about we're gonna solve the deficit but they didn't did that well the Democrats ain't can do it either so I know but they didn't say they were right the Tea Party kept said we have got to get this deficit down this has ran up a trillion dollars in six months what what what about Russia they used to be the enemy what about free trade I mean how do you turn on a dime so quickly in a couple of years I mean obviously it's been very frustrating to me watch so many Republicans do exactly that I've been incredibly critical of Republicans who have suddenly become fans of Vladimir Putin or have suddenly become fans of tariffs I think all of that is idiocy but again I think that with regard to judges with regard to taxes with regard to Middle Eastern policy particularly Iran in Israel I'm much more of a fan of President Trump than I certainly would have been of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama and by the way I didn't vote for president from the last election because of my concerns about him okay so you would not vote for a Democrat under any circumstance or some circumstance I mean I would say some circumstance but the Democratic Party would have to stop being insane meaning that they would actually have to approach something like moderation in terms of policy and also present a face that doesn't look like people shouting down people at gas stations or entering restaurants and trying to throw them out okay well if you're talking about the civility thing why don't we start with the Republicans stop saying lock her up you don't think that's a worse a bridge winter just lock her up he talked about locking co me up he talks about locking journalists up there's a guy who said locked tim kaine up how about we stop the lock them up shouldn't disability arguments start there before we care about who gets their entree well it isn't just about who gets their entree I'm not gonna make excuses for which is more important well I think that all of it is important if you're going to ask me is bad across the board yes but you can't be advisors that we're only imposed okay you're only opposed to incivility when it's Donald Trump inclusive but but suddenly Maxine Waters auntie Maxine because Ben you can't walk into a Roman tea an elephant in a mouse and not know which one is bigger but it's not no offense any Mouse it's two years really yes threatening to walk six hundred officers to protect me at Berkeley yes it's an elephant and an elephant yes it's an elephant an elephant a trilobite in 2010 Romney that he's gonna put y'all back in Chains about black people this stuff pre-existed that productive is terrible didn't come from the president at Berkeley it came from the vice president when he was saying Mitt Romney the cleanest person ever okay was a guy who's gonna put y'all back and change to pretend in civility started with Donald Trump not instability at the level to which it's at were your time great you do you really think Donald Trump respects the rule of law I mean if somebody no and I think the Constitution itself is a pretty damn durable document thank God I've read your tweets like about Kamala Harris yeah I have some problems with her too but you would vote for Trump over her yes tell me why okay so the reason I'd vote for Trump over her is because I agree with him a lot more on policy and I actually believe a lot of the damage that he has done to the country in terms of social fabric has already occurred so I said I didn't vote for him in 2016 the reason I didn't vote for him in 2016 is because I feared the damage he would do to the social fabric and I also didn't think he was going to govern conservative because I didn't see a lot of indicators of that he's government a lot more conservative than I thought he was going to and as far as the damage to the social fabric if he's already done it I'm not actually mitigating against the damage to the social fabric by not voting from in 2020 can I read your here's something where we sort of agree and then I'll show you where we don't this is Kamala Harris tweeted children are our nation's future we must listen to them about what they care about and give them a voice in our government and you wrote ridiculous I'm with you their children they don't get a voice and I think I know what she meant but it's poorly worded and you wrote children should not have a voice in our government their children and you're right this is where the left drives me crazy but then you wrote about children they are also incapable of fully rational thought thoroughly uncivilized and completely driven by immediate emotional response I can't think of a here more perfect description of Donald Trump you didn't see the irony when you wrote that tweet and described children that way you did it didn't never entered your mind that Donald Trump fit that perfectly well I don't believe that Donald Trump is a person whose views are leading in in my in my imagination where the country ought to go I mean I don't look to Donald Trump's a thought leader I would look to a child's thought leader I don't look to those it's not leader so are you talking about he's the president says he's not the thought leader nope couldn't he have some thought I don't know Kenny you tell me I don't know well it seems like his only thoughts to me are to work with Vladimir Putin to make Russia great again and I what I don't understand Obama was but harsher on Putin you got in terms of his rhetoric his actions his armed his armed the people of Ukraine with deadly weaponry which Obama would not do 200 Russian soldiers were killed in Syria by US forces under Donald Trump not under Barack Obama Barack Obama who sang to Dmitry Medvedev that he wanted to bribed him with flexibility in 2012 it Crimea was annexed under Barack Obama Wow this reminds me of when people Hitchin just to come on the show and and try to convince me that Saddam Hussein was you know a radical Islamist when he was actually a secularist you have to go a long way to make that argument I mean he tweeted yesterday defending Putin against what our own agency say that he said Russia says again they did in metal not election what a lot of crappy stuff why a lot of wood why have there been 19 indictments and six conviction so far in the mullah ring Creek why so many lies about so many meetings with so many Russians so many attempts to have back-channel sources what actually think that Donald Trump collude admitting yes I do not because I watched that campaign I don't think that Donald Trump could collude with his own left foot well I don't think he did it but his you know his son did it his the people who and when the evidence comes out I'm happy to go for the indictments I'm fine okay great criminal activities criminal act but you see didn't do but wearing his to ignorance who have done it well he's not too ignorant he's not too ignorant to be a criminalist all life [Applause] into the Trump Defender here but is he a doofus or is he an evil genius you gotta pick one okay actually you don't you don't have to pick one really look I'm not saying he's like Hitler here is I marry bud Hitler was crazy and he was a genius at what he did which was lie and manipulate people so you can be both okay but let's get back to Russia because I first of all why a nice Jewish boy like you wants to be on Team treason I have no idea dude I'm happy to wait for the Muller indictments and come down and they target Trump I'm happy to see them impeach work that I need to see evidence but you know that the Republican Congress we saw it this week with Rosenstein on the at Congress they are trying to impeach Rosenstein so they can get rid of him so they can so we don't ever see they don't want us ever to see it they know there's something probably a thousand things in there that are incredibly damning okay you don't think that if they impeach Rosenstein yes some presento line for you i don't know it's the final line because there's still another step that has to happen Rosen scene has to be replaced by somebody who then fires Muller so frozen Steen is fired and Muller is left to his own devices which is basically by the way what happened with this investigation when Comey was fired then I don't see where the line is Muller is the one who matters here not report goes to the Deputy Attorney General and if Trump puts Scott Baio in that position he can just throw it in the trash and if he throws it in the trash or quashes the muller investigation then yes impeachment should be on the table Thank You Ben I want to do it again I appreciate you coming by I know Friday night's a tough one for you all right Ben Shapiro I'll give him the hands
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Length: 11min 4sec (664 seconds)
Published: Fri Jun 29 2018
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Every time Ben makes a point about Trumpโ€™s policy in regards to Russia, Bill canโ€™t make a good point against him and goes straight to attacking Trumpโ€™s character.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 38 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/radioheadache95 ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Bill Maherโ€™s face when Ben says โ€œis he a doofus or an evil genius?โ€ - sooooo great. Wonderful job, Ben!!!

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 27 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/BasedSoccerMom ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Bill Maher is a dufus

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 18 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/McGrowler ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

It keeps coming back to character and emotional arguments. Maher isn't arguing based on evidence, he's arguing fully on emotion. He so strongly dislikes Trump that no other evidence or position really lands.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 19 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/mrfurious2k ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Wow. I actually enjoyed this. Maher was surprisingly non-condescending like he usually is.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 11 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/faithfoliage ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

Bill didn't even try. Ben through every fact you could possibly line up and Maher could only dodge them to find where they agreed. Win goes to the "nice Jewish boy."

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 8 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/Age__Of__Reason ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jun 30 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies

You could see how vexed Bill was when trying to counter point Benโ€™s argument. I havenโ€™t seen Bill get that flustered in a while. I wish it was just them talking for an hour or two.

๐Ÿ‘๏ธŽ︎ 3 ๐Ÿ‘ค๏ธŽ︎ u/gordothepin ๐Ÿ“…๏ธŽ︎ Jul 04 2018 ๐Ÿ—ซ︎ replies
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