Ben Barnes talks Netflix's Shadow and Bone

all right welcome everybody to a very special edition of take the black we're here with noted stage screen tv actor and man with uh hair i'm quite frankly jealous of ben barnes ben how are you what's up man hey thanks for having me on well you got that billy russo hair a second season i like it yeah i like to keep it short and i miss it i miss it it's so easy yeah yeah get out of the shower it's uh it's done drying by the time i brush my teeth so yeah yeah so well thanks for taking the time i know um you know everything's kind of up in the air right now so we definitely appreciate you taking some time out for us yeah i'm grateful to to have something to do something to look forward to yeah nice absolutely yeah so and um obviously here at wic we cover um any kind of fantasy sci-fi all the comic book stuff so a lot of your roles kind of fell um under what we normally cover so i was super excited to talk um but yeah it was funny at one point on my imdb it said like it used to say like my name and you know your height and your age and then like trivia you know often lives in a fantasy world or something like that and i was like oh that's it's pretty accurate yeah yeah but those are the most fun you get the the best costumes the all the toys all that good stuff let's just escape the escapism as well you know just when i was a kid i loved all the quests all the quest stuff and all the like you know you know sci-fi and quest basically with the things that i loved when i was a when i was a kid but yeah um yeah you get the toys i i have the worst toy of any actor of all time i don't know if you've ever seen the uh the prince caspian action figure uh i haven't seen the action figure no it is the worst action figure there's any ever been made of anyone ever if you're watching this and that sparks your interest google it it doesn't look anything like me it just it it looks like a five-year-old made it well you know lisa got an action figure though that's true that is true but it's like my life quest now to do something else where i get an action figure because i have to like i have to fix it i have to you can't let that be the only thing i have to make up for it yeah otherwise on my ndb it will say trivia has the worst action figure of all time and then like i can't have that hey but i have to be self-edited man so there you go just just hop on there and and i don't know i i wouldn't have the first clue where to start with that someone else have to do it for me oh but speaking of prince catherine that was your first that was your first you know kind of major role that you know that that you had so what do you remember but obviously it was kind of a long time ago what do you remember most yeah i mean well my first ever ever ever film job was um was also fantasy which was um stardust i don't know if would like yeah absolutely i just had like a small role in that but that was like a really good uh that was like a really good um weigh-in for me like a really gentle introduction to like those big kind of those big worlds yeah and i luckily in that my character just had to go around looking at everything like that just like you know so so that was pretty easy to do at the time and and so on on caspian obviously play prince caspian um you know what do you what do you remember about those about those films because obviously with prince caspian i i'm losing my memory on the second one but on prince caspian you were the title character in a pretty big part of that film yeah no well but both the second and third i was i was i was in sort of the whole the whole thing and they were yeah it was pretty magical experiences to be honest i was doing like stage work in london and you know i'd done like a few days on films here and there but never really anything where you were it was sort of your full-time full-time job and then to sort of fly out to new zealand and do all the horse training and the sword training and the stunts and the you know i was working with like a dialect coach um and and uh you know sort of meeting all the cast and i'd seen the seen the first film so to me these kids were just those kids and uh yeah it was a pretty just as a sort of life life adventure which i think is you know just as important as you know as kind of what you end up making in the end in terms of the experience of what you put into it and uh they were just incredible from that point of view like we started in new zealand and then we ended up shooting the rest of it in prague in um in europe and they built these castles and i remember thinking i was only cast two months ago this this must have taken six months to build it must have they built a castle a whole castle and and i just remember thinking how staggering how staggering a job this can this can be and how important it is to like retain that sort of child like wonder about about how you approach doing the job because that's how i watch stuff and that's how people you know that's how people interpret i think what you're doing especially if it's in like a sci-fi fantasy kind of kind of realm you want to be taken away on a spaceship or taken away on a you know on an on on that kind of journey you want to put the ring on and disappear you know yeah absolutely um and you know a character another character you played that was complete opposite of caspian obviously was was logan delos on uh westworld um yeah and speaking of getting away and and being transported to some fantasy worlds obviously that that show centers on going to uh you know a series of fictional parks but what do you i mean it's interesting because logan i mean you know he's not logan i'm sorry he starts as uh you know he starts his carefree and very hedonistic and he's he's just it's about the money and what he can get out of it and then he you know when it's william kind of transplants him it shatters his whole world so how much how much did you enjoy kind of that journey of the character from season one to two well i i firstly i had no idea we had no idea we were gonna do more than just season one that was the deal was we would we would jimmy and i plays william younger william um we were gonna do one season so it was gonna be this carefree douchebag you know that i was drawing on every douchebag i'd ever met and and and trying to make him kind of but but you know those douchebags we really enjoy being douchebags you know uh and and i think that i had i think i had the most fun of everyone on that whole show because you know everyone's wrestling with these existential crises of you know what does it mean and am i real and i'm sitting okay who cares yeah just have a nice time and so i really enjoyed i think you know you start to sort of imbued with with a little bit of the characters that you're playing and so while i was shooting that i was just like liv i was just sort of living life and thinking isn't life amazing let's just let's just let's just enjoy this and let's have a let's have a good time and and and so it was a it was a sort of good time to be alive when i was when i was sort of shooting that and then but then it was a real so it felt like a real privilege to be asked back for season two when that wasn't necessarily the plan but also to be asked to do almost the complete opposite of what you were doing in the first season to have found this sort of slightly darker soulful quality um somewhere in there and and sort of start and you know that what you long for as an actor when you read a script or something is to be shown the journey and to be shown how they got where they got to and that's you thought of your job is to like even if you don't say it in the story to show people why you've ended up where you've ended up and and i think that giving me those those scenes in season two to do that was like a real privilege to be able to go like to flick from flip from between before what we saw in season one and then after what you saw in season one was like was like pretty it was pretty cool to see yeah no absolutely and it's funny you bring up that you were the only person who had fun on set uh i was just have you ever watched uh succession on hbo oh i love it i think i i honestly think it's like maybe the best cast on tv i just think that everyone is so perfectly cast in that show yeah absolutely and and i was they have a podcast that's out now with you know each one of the cast members and it's interesting because when they had jeremy strong on um who obviously plays kendall he was talking about how everybody else on set gets to have a lot of fun and he's always in this existential oh you know kieran kalkin is having the most fun of anyone on tv right now yeah and exactly it's just be it's a it was a sort of a similar thing it was just it's just sort of being being given the freedom to be really kind of i would call it like to be naughty right like with your choices to be able to like walk out of the saloon scratching your balls if you want to and no one's going to go what is he doing you know you could because you can do whatever you have that freedom right yeah and karen said a similar thing too that he he his set he said his only problem was when he gets off set after filming is done he has to dial it back down because yeah yeah yeah yeah he's gonna stop swearing and yeah yeah yeah so drinking drinking for breakfast and yeah yep absolutely so um and obviously you know westworld was is it's a very heavy show and there's a huge amount of plot going on and you kind of touched on a second ago initially you guys thought it was only a season one thing how much did each of you kind of know i mean obviously you have access to scripts but how much did y'all know about the overall you know platys is going on did you guys understand you did always have the scripts to be honest i i we in season one i used to get the scripts um like two weeks before we would film that episode i would get the scripts and then evan rachel wood who plays dolores would would who would know a little bit more about what was going on because she would talk to the showrunners she would like sneak me secret information and i'd be like why really they're a robot you know i would i i you know so that would be fun on season two um we we were shooting everything completely out of order and i was kind of doing some other stuff at the time so so i didn't even get any scripts at all in season two i only got the pages that i shot right so so when i got the pages for the like what i do in the in the finale episode when i become like that sort of siri like my dad has made me this the sort of gatekeeper of the system uh i had no idea what was going on and i was supposed to shoot it like the next day and i had to call like lisa and jonah are showing us and be like uh what what what is this what's been going on what am i doing no context please yeah i imagine that's kind of that's kind of hard to play when you don't know i know some actors have talked about they don't want to know what's going on outside their characters because that can kind of mess with their motivations but still you have to have some idea what's going on which obviously on westworld can be kind of difficult yeah i mean for me for me i you know i think it's your job to to to when when the cameras were to like switch off everything and just be be as present as you can and that's not easy to do in life especially now let alone to do it on a on a on a set it's not it's not not the easiest job in the world but i think i personally like to have as much context as possible because it gives me things to kind of that i can sew in or think about or whatever i like to be trusted with that stuff but a lot of people don't like you say yeah just a preference but uh so especially with everything we like you mentioned everything going on right now is there a a park that you want to go to if you if uh if it was real you want to go to westworld you want to go to medieval land whatever um where would i go i just want to like go i wouldn't go and run in the ocean water world maybe water water oh no that's that's like very dystopic isn't it that's like you don't want to go dry land where do they get to at the end they find dry land right yeah it's i think it's supposed to be mount everest is where they they land yeah okay i want to go to dry land at the end of water world just another island just leave me alone you know just just uh yeah there you go that's a that's a good choice um and you know one of the other shows um obviously that we covered pretty big was was the punisher um on netflix and i i thought it was kind of interesting because i see some similarities between the two characters between billy russo and and logan dallas but um they both have that like narcissistic quality but for different very different reasons yeah different reasons but they also you know they start kind of they they kind of go down a path where you know in the first season you know billy russo is the kind of suave and he's the busiest man and he's trying to put one over on everybody um and then in season two his whole world is kind of shattered kind of similar to logan and so it's i thought it was it was interesting did you see any similarities between the two characters when you're when you're playing them yeah for sure i i mean like i said the the sort of that narcissistic that that narcissistic quality one of them because he's felt completely unloved by you know a you know by a father who holds into you know what he feels are impossible standards and it just feels like he's never he's never been noticed and sort of turns to you know eventually sort of just turns to drugs to sort of escape his life which is kind of sad but he's acting out to get attention and i think with billy russo it's not really about attention but he also feels unloved he's had a mother who was you know a drug addict uh as well and and so he's felt abandoned and then he's he you find that in the second season he was you're in the first season actually as well but you a little bit more in the second season that he's been abused as a kid and and so he is broke you know he feels broken and let down by the family let them by the system and all that stuff so i i mean i love it when like those characters who seemingly are sort of just out and out douchebags i wouldn't say that logan is a villain obviously i think billy russo is like more of a villain because he's there's some psychopathy about about the way he behaves he's he's broken um but i wanted to play him very much in the second season as you know it would have been very easy to make him kind of arch and vengeful i wanted to make him broken right so a lot you know i wanted to kind of uh show some of that vulnerability because i think that you know if you can play a murderous and still have people when you when your character dies go oh right then then then that's to me that's interesting because i think everyone has everything in them already so we're all you know we're all these like a bit like those tablets in westworld where you dial up the charisma and you dial down the vulnerability and you dial up the anxiety and you dial down this you know we've all got all of those um we've all got all of those dials in us so it's just a question of choosing what what you what you're willing to show like we do in real life and yeah um yeah i'm that's the part of this whole thing this this whole sort of you know job in korea which interests me yeah well i i love that you brought up that you wanted to make uh billy vulnerable because um you know heading into season two it was interesting because i think most people assumed okay billy he you know we're not he's the villain we're not gonna have any sympathy for him you know this guy killed frank's family et cetera et cetera and i thought it was very interesting that as the season went on i was i was feeling sympathy for the character you know and you and and they played it so well you know you didn't really know at first is he faking the you know the uh memory loss or is it is it genuine and i loved how there was you know when he did finally have that confrontation with uh frank with the punisher in in the street that scene that you have where you realize that's who is causing all your trauma and the camera goes around me yes and i just love that scene and then the following scene when you when you go back to um i'm forgetting uh yeah yeah to her apartment and you're having like a breakdown that's that's actually my favorite scene i think i've ever shot so i'm really like uh i'm chuffed that you pulled that one out because i thought it was interesting i remember shooting season one the big carousel fight at the end and i remember talking to the showrunner about what we were gonna do and i was like yeah if he can't remember anything then then you get to have him think he's a good guy which is so much more interesting than having someone think they're a villain because then it's hard to justify and and then i remember him calling me our show runner before we start the second season i said my only thing that i want is that this memory loss is real i just don't want it to be a facade it's got to be a real thing that you know that you know and you can remember things but but um it can't be fraud because you can't cheat the audience because no one wants to be cheated like that um and and so that was kind of important to me to have him be i you know because he obviously tells a lot of lies but just to have him be kind of honest in his approach yeah was like kind of kind of important to me to as a sort of starting point and then and because then i have the opportunity to like you know if it says he screams and throws a chair in the scene i can just sit in the corner and cry and if it says he sits in the corner and cries i can scream and throw a chair like anything is then possible right yeah no and i i mean kudos to you for for making that a point because i was i was definitely in the first couple episodes worried that it was just going to be a facade and it was yeah oh haha i was kidding i don't have memory loss and it definitely played more powerful to have it genuine that's cool yeah yeah is that i'm kind of seen in there i also by the way would have much preferred it if the facial scarring and stuff had been much worse i was i was i really was pushing for them i was like put more just just three more just like a big one like over my eye pull my eye down or something and they were just they were just not having it um so that that was that was the only like disappointment about that because then you would have been like because it would have then been been harder to empathize with him but also you would have felt more sorry for him too so it would have been it would have been an interesting i would have liked to have seen what that would have done he would have been scarier as well you know yeah his uh his scarring that i think i didn't comment when i was reviewing it that it did seem kind of superficial considering how much of a beating well yeah they were saying like oh we want it in the modern world and obviously with plastic surgery and stuff it was clean cut some glass and we they did chart each scar from each hit and stuff but like i uh you know i was just like yeah but mangled is fun yeah no i i i think i agree with you it would have been a little bit more uh some people did some like uh some of those like amazing like online digital artists and stuff did some mock-ups of just like pushing it a little bit further and some of them were just like so cool yeah absolutely it definitely would have elicited a little bit more maybe not sympathy but maybe you would kind of understand his his rage and his pain a little bit more because i think it would have pushed both both ways he would have come across as a bit more gruesome and and sort of frightening um but also a little bit more of a figure of of sorrow so yeah it would have been interesting but um but i think also like the way it was explained to me was that actually the scarring and the damage was in here yeah and that also was a very interesting prospect for me yeah because it meant that i was trying really hard to show that so that was like a nice challenge as well well and it was it was also um interesting i thought that the show it really delved into you know some moral gray areas especially between you and frank that that were kind of surprising for maybe you know the because the punisher is supposed to be super violent and maybe not necessarily the most cerebral show and so i love the the comparisons they made between yourself and and the punisher john berenthal's character so um and i love his ruthlessness at the end you know you switch places and you think you think i'm gonna with my sort of dying breaths you think i'm gonna try and make things right and he's like no i don't have time for this i'm a punisher you know yeah oh this is too or is it this is too hard for me i can't watch this you know it's it's you should always be able to read things more than one way i think you know yeah absolutely and i was going to ask um what you thought about that scene because i think it also kind of went against some you know tropes or whatever you want to call it where he you know he'd have a big speech and maybe they have a reconciliation or something you know something going on but frank just walks up and you know yeah actually the original version of that scene was even shorter just he just sort of walked in and i didn't even get a chance to say anything at all and i was like no it would be great if he started to say something i was thinking i pitched it a bit like lost in translation at the end i was like he starts to say something but you're not quite sure what he would have said but you can you can just you can then you get to put your stamp on it you get to be involved you get to be part of you get to proactively watch and be be involved invested and i i love i love when tv makes me feel that way yeah absolutely and so what was sharing you know obviously you and and bernthal john shared you know quite a few scenes what was what was it like having him as a scene partner for i mean i wish we both of us always always wished and bemoaned the fact that we didn't get more because we we we really only got you know two scenes and a and a fight in the first season and and and just two or three scenes in the second season where we were actually in the same room because and you know our our creator and showrunner kept explaining that the more i put you in a room together the more i have to explain why you're not just killing each other yeah it makes you know and you can't just keep coming up with reasons and i was you know i remember in between the seasons it was like you know when we were talking about season three before i knew i was for it um i was like well maybe you know i could be captured and then he could be capturing we could be opposite sides of a prison and we have to like eventually get together to like figure it out and then we can't kill each other but you know anything just anything um did i actually have scenes where we can be in the same room without killing each other but um yeah he's he's he's an amazing guy and he's such a just a charismatic kind of leader figure just anyway he's just very he's just a very um you're just a very kind of alpha charming funny straight shooting guy and i i i would have you know i would love to i keep looking for things that we could do together you know where we can actually have some more scenes together because yeah absolutely i thought i thought his casting was when it was announced was was pretty spot-on so he was perfect i was i was i was pretty sad that they kind of kicked all those marvel shows off netflix and it was it was kind of sad thing to see because some of them were some of them were were some of them were great some were just great and i really like i said i loved how punisher kind of played with a lot of the tropes and was a lot more cerebral than you might have thought it would be considering the source material so is there anybody that told you my first first ever job with stardust which obviously charlie cox was whose daredevil was my son he's my son in it so really oh wow yeah so whenever i turn up to uh to shoot in new york when i shot the punisher and i was like i'd be like son he'd be like father that's awesome um and is there anybody else uh that maybe you would have you know not just on the punisher but is there anybody you know throughout your your career that you wish you would have had more see you know more scenes with most people to be honest i i uh i've had so much time i mean uh i did i did a film which is a very very very bad film called the big wedding uh which is not fantasy and it's not cyber or anything it's it's a sort of comedy but the cast was just incredible this de niro and susan serena and diane keaton and you know catherine heights amazing amanda seifried amazing cast and uh i had i had like two two two or three scenes with de niro and and i had two scenes with robin williams and i think you know those two in particular just to have those little those little tastes of working with some of the you know the great the greatest of all time and it all felt it felt like a bit like a dream and it went too fast and i i uh you know i i regret how how how fast that felt yeah that went but um you know but but but i have had the privilege of working with some of my favorites like colin firth and jeff bridges and some of these amazing you know oscar-winning brilliant people and i've done you know i've spent you know long doing big long long movies and jobs with them and learned a huge amount and enjoyed them a huge amount and so yeah i've been pretty i've been pretty lucky to be honest have um have any of them ever giving you um really pointers but maybe more just kind of advice um that may be stuck with you yeah i mean i mean um jeff bridges used to tell me about how he would prepare for scenes and how he would sort of think prepare for scenes like three different ways and and then just sort of throw it all out the window which was like really interesting i remember him saying like you know my apprentice in the movie so gonna be my apprentice in real life when he was doing his spook sprinter's voice yeah and then colin firth would be much more cutthroat he'd be like well you're not going to be interesting until you're 40. so just calm down you know he would just be more like that so yeah so yeah i've had i've had you know angels and devils all the way through to you know kind of ushering me along yeah but you want to take the advice a little advice from both exactly that's what keeps it so it keeps it in i think you know i just i just tell people to try and enjoy it because it's it's it's short yeah absolutely so hating and you know i was i was when i was going through uh your imdb list like we talked about earlier um i i i was not aware how much of a musical background you had um you know from the soundtracks to um you know just the i think i read about the eurovision stuff and and things like that so how much do you enjoy that versus acting because they're both they're both kind of a obviously a performing art so yeah how much do you enjoy that versus actually i mean music is sort of was sort of my first love really um you know when i was in high school i was playing in jazz bands and singing jazz bands and playing drums and and um you know my first ever job was playing drums in a production of bugsy malone in the west end in london it's like a jazz musical for kids and um you know i love all kinds of music and i've done some some terrible stuff and i and i've done some stuff that i'm proud of and i've done a few musical movies like killing bono i'd you know obviously recorded the whole soundtrack for that and easy virtue i've sung on and uh jackie and ryan is probably one of the jobs i'm proudest of in my life and that's you know there's a whole soundtrack of that that i got to be involved with and sing on and play on and uh yeah i'm yet to yet to make any music of of kind of my own but it does take up a lot of my spare time when i'm just for myself you know it feels like something sort of you know precious i keep for myself and then people were like you should just do more stuff just like even if it's just on instagram or whatever so i've tried in the last year or two to do a bit more of that um and you know eventually it would be cool to like make some music you know uh before i'm 50 you know or before your first at 40 like uh colin said um i better hurry up with that one you ever preferred i mean you spoke about jazz and obviously the jackie and ryan is kind of a little bit more sexy yeah grass folksy do you have kind of a preferred you know if you were gonna make my my draw has always been to like the like more soulful stuff like my dad had this record collection which was just all like um beetles and the stones and zeppelin the who and and uh you know all these kind of amazing rock bands and i would i would gravitate towards the back of his collection that unloved you know the kind of the stevie wonder stuff and and um you know even some of the more soulful like queen albums and stuff like that and uh and and then i sort of found my way through to a lot of the like you know aretha franklin's and the tony hathaways and all that all that kind of stuff like quite young like 16 15 16 i was like really into like the you know time away town and um stacks and all those all those kind of all that all that stuff and um i still love that uh that that kind of stuff but i love all kinds of all kinds of music but so long as it has a little bit of a i think a little bit like my taste in scripts too as long as it has like a little bit of a sort of soul force not sensitive a sentimental um you know kind of power to it it's that's what i tend to gravitate towards in life people too yeah absolutely i i i was listening to the the jackie ryan soundtrack i like i like that quite a bit um oh cool that's kind of uh in my wheelhouse especially here austin's got a real kind of eclectic yeah oh music scene so there's there's a lot of stuff like that going on did you have a funny story about that which was that i did this um uh mini series for the history channel called the sons of liberty which was kind of like a like a kind of a cool tate young take on um you know boston tea party and the in the american revolution and the declaration of independence and all that stuff and they i'd finished shooting jackie ryan but they wanted to shoot record two songs for the um end credits and they organized it to to record these songs in a busted up dilapidated uh studio where we were filming outside we were filming outside at night and i was dressed as sam adams and and it was like three in the morning i had a break or two in the morning i had a break for lunch and i got on one of the like golf you know those little golf carts and they drove me to the other end of the studio which was completely like run down like nobody in it completely dark i was like walking through these corridors and eventually i found this recording studio where this one guy was sitting who didn't speak english um and we recorded these two songs for jackie ryan whilst i'm dressed as sam adams like the ponytail and the hat and everything so that was like pretty surreal and weird to like to try to record these those songs in that sort of situation oh you know we were in we were in uh you know we were in uh bucharest in in romania gotcha well that makes for that big for an interesting uh musical video yeah so true so um i know you know kind of your upcoming projects you've got a central role in the in the um shadow and bone series that's been that's coming out on netflix yeah without you know revealing any spoilers what can you tell us about your character monk show yeah not very much it um i mean obviously the books there there's a trilogy of books called the shadow and bone uh trilogy and then there's a duology called the six of crows which is sort of set a few years later and we've we've uh for the for the sake of the uh the you know the show and being a full rich deep exciting world they're sort of um you know drawing from both sets of books so we can have all of the characters um together which is um which is you know it's pretty cool and i play this character um who we're calling general kirigan but he's actually if you if you know the books he's he is the character of the darkling um and um you know he's he's the um they have this this this order of magic you know people who have um you know extraordinary magical abilities called the grisha and he is the the leader of the grecia army he's there he's their general um so he's basically the most powerful you know character in this in this universe as we as we meet him um and uh yeah it's a pretty exciting sort of universe because the way the way we've kind of drawn from all these books it kind of you know has elements of you know harry potter with the different orders that people are grouped into by by you know by color at the where you know and then but then it also has kind of this quest element like a kind of lord of the rings kind of chosen one element but then you know it's kind of this russian anna karenina and then the six of crows has more of a peaky blinders heist vibe to it so it's it really does have all of those things kind of like molded together um something that feels a bit i think i think it feels quite different and interesting and and i'm excited for people to see it and have you heard anything about i know it was it was kind of originally supposed to come out i think sometime later this year but with with uh kobe going on and post-production kind of being yeah i don't i don't i don't actually know when it's going to come out but i hope uh you know i hope sooner rather than later yeah absolutely um and then you know just a couple more questions but um with you know with the way hollywood works with remakes and reboots and all kinds of things going on is there any kind of is there any uh any of the you know fantasy sci-fi worlds that you'd love to be a part of you want to be cast young luke skywalker or any anything out there that you just would jump to have i i mean i i get i i'm a pretty excitable fanboy in terms of like movies and tv shows to be honest like everything i watch i'm like oh what could i be in this what can i be in this world it's like when you're a kid when you you know you know i have a picture of me like dressed as a cowboy when i'm like three and then i have a picture of me dressed as batman when i'm four you know it's it there's always something yeah where you're like ah i wanna i i could i would do that yeah so is it everything really i don't know i feel like it would be it would be more fun to like poll like a community like yours and be like you know what what other people want to see me do you know that's that's that's actually more interesting to me than than like yeah choosing what i would want to get into because i just like you know i want to be involved i'm i'm i want to be involved with everything yeah well and there's so much you know it's there's so much going on nowadays you know with all the different streaming platforms i mean everything i think having played you know i think having played sorry i i i think having played like a couple of quite untrustworthy nefarious pa you know maybe even villainous psychopathic kind of characters in a row it'd be nice to see you know what i could now bring having done that for five six years what i would bring to a more you know traditionally empathetic character to like a more of a hero figure even if there's you know because i've been playing these dark characters and trying to find the light and vulnerability so it'd be nice to play like a light heroic character and try and find the dark in in them you know what i mean that would be cool yeah flip it around just a little bit yeah um well i mean that that's pretty much all i got for you where i mean other than shadow and bone what else you got going on where can people see you coming up soon yeah i mean no that that's that's kind of it right now you know it's it's a huge big show with you know kind of massive world building and effects and you know character stuff so so we've been we were shooting it kind of most of most of last year so so we're just like to putting the final touches on it so hopefully not not too long before we can see it yeah absolutely well uh we definitely thank you for the time uh we'll have we'll see if can't have you back on whenever shadow and bone comes out and we can actually talk about it yeah sounds good i'll get i'll get some of the other cast on too we can do a little group group thing yeah absolutely um well definitely thank you for the time and uh we'll talk to you soon good luck everything going on thank you

Channel: Winter is Coming

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Length: 39min 52sec (2392 seconds)

Published: Mon Sep 14 2020