Being Yourself Is Your Greatest Opportunity | Meeting with Charli D'Amelio

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[Music] this is what the Internet's gonna do it's gonna turn a ton of normal people into different versions of celebrity not everyone most people will never get to charli's level most people not amassed 10 million followers on a platform let alone a single platform overall but everybody is in a place of fifteen hundred three thousand and guess what and you probably remember this three thousand feels like 10 million you got your prospective YouTube what's up so so grateful that you clicked and you're about to watch a new youtube video but before you do 2 1 2 9 3 1 5 7 3 1 that is my texting community platform doing a lot of one-on-one engagement in there and also access opportunity first looks in that environment 2 1 2 9 3 1 5 7 3 1 join it now and now to the video you've been wanting to watch everybody it's gary vaynerchuk really excited about this conversation in today's podcast when it crossed my mind you know basically how i live my life as random thoughts come in and occasionally i execute on them so had a random thought a couple weeks ago maybe a month ago inviting this family to the show to kind of talk about the phenomenon that has happened with their daughters tick tock obviously anybody who's listening right now is super aware of what i believe in the platform and what's been going on on it and how it maps historically to social networks and more importantly why i believe in a far majority of people it's a very important opportunity to jump into because the amount of attention the platform has versus how much content is being produced is an arbitrage that can lead to a lot of opportunities one of the real fun in my opinion phenomenons on tick-tock is has been the explosion of both of these young ladies starting with one of these young ladies and I'm gonna let everybody introduce themselves here but I also have their parents here I had the luxury of meeting the entire family maybe three weeks ago and may for my team always paying attention to the cultures like you should meet these guys I'm like of course we had a really nice Chad they were just really lovely people and I really want them to win and more importantly selfishly I think that in our culture today there's an enormous amount of confusion and misunderstanding of social networks and and to be very very very frank I think most parents struggle with the behaviors that I think are both most beneficial to their children and and by no means do I even have any real clue what's going on in this household but but I'm intuitive enough and I've been watching enough that I feel very confident there'll be some stories and conversations here that will help an enormous amount of people listening both for inspiring creators but for also parents and executives that are trying to understand the dynamics and and we have some very different voices in this room all of which come from a different angle of the story so we're gonna go around right now I'm gonna introduce ourselves and and then I've got some questions and we'll Jam and we'll take it from there so mom as the queen bee of the family we'll start with you and go around the circle who are you and my name is Heidi Charlie in Dixie's mom understood Charlie I'm Charlie D'Amelio and I danced on ticked-off fair enough I'm Dixie Julia that mark D'Amelio I'm father to these two wonderful young ladies and husband to Heidi and glad to be here thanks for having us so let's so for a lot of people who may not know right now they're still probably curious based on those intros let's really go into the origin to paint the picture what happened how did your tik-tok life start like and I'm talking about when did you first find out about it were you on musically how did it hit your radar what happened with your first video and then and then we'll take it from there so I was actually just Charlie for everybody was just thing good yeah I was actually never on musically I got an account for maybe about three days posted five or six videos then deleted it never looked on it again and that was like four or five years ago yeah okay about and you're how old right now I'm 15 okay go ahead so my friends at the end of last school year we would all go into the bathroom and they'd be like look at this cool little dance I found and he'd be like charlie learn it because I'm a dancer and they would post me on their accounts this is before I even had a Tech Talk account so late last so we're talking now April May of 2019 you know you like every normal teenager go to the bathroom with your friends and they're there looking at these videos and they're trying to get you to replicate that dance because they knew that you probably could and some of them couldn't so I could teach them understood and they were posting me on their accounts I hadn't even downloaded the app yet but it was so cool because there was all these fun little dances to do and everyone was just posting them so eventually end of May I would say I think was when my first video came out I decided to make a Tech Talk account and I was just dancing doing what I do everyday what I've been doing since I was three I've been a dancer my entire life and threw out real glamour yeah prior to your account in late May had any of the videos on your friends accounts of you dancing go viral or hit a lot of views great keep going so throughout the summer I was just posting videos dancing if you like an investigative Barbara Walters here on the scene keep it up guys and then it was before I was going to a dance class with that was about an hour and a half away from my house I just made a dance video very very quickly it was a duet with someone named moved with joy and it was a very simple dance she makes these adorable simple dances for that anyone can do so I did it I do added her video and then I got car on my way to a dance class that I've I've been going to dance class my whole life but I kept checking and I was like why is this getting so many views why is this getting so many likes I'm not doing anything I'm just dancing like this is it was insane to me what what number post was it for you on your account it was probably around like 15 got it so the first 14 just are super normal nothing crazy you know you literally have very few if any followers besides your friends yeah and now this duet goes and it goes viral it goes viral uh it got up to around two hundred thousand likes which was and how many views I think it got up to like 1.4 million and so by the time you got to your class an hour and a half later you're like oh [ __ ] I have a viral tik-tok video yes and you're pumped and texting your friends I didn't say anything to anyone interesting I was just talking to my mom the whole time okay I even like what do I do cuz I was like oh my god did this 50 likes what yeah like I happily seemed crazy that was insane to me and then it just kept growing yeah this is good [ __ ] she's like oh my god what do we do what do I do alright people liking it why this one I would I give us this the others were more intricate sure they were so much harder yeah yeah and she was like so she goes in and she comes out she was like my god she goes into class yeah an hour for three and a half hours okay sorry kids are dancing for hours all right long ride home she's saying what am I gonna do what am I gonna do I'm like charlie are you gonna do me another one I don't know that's a really good point Heidi and I think like I think this is actually the first thing I want to spend time on I am fascinated by people being very comfortable to create when they feel like a very small group of people are watching and then what it does to their psyche the moment they realize way more are the fact that you really spent a lot of time saying what will I do which probably seemed funny to your mom she's like what is she talking about makes a lot of sense to me because I believe most people massively overthink their content because they're worried about judgment and thus it changes their behavior so that's really what did happen that makes sense you were like did you feel this is a great I really want your answer did you feel a heightened may be extreme pressure for your next post because you wanted it to be good yes I actually didn't post for about two days after that it's interesting stuff yes it's really interesting stuff because I was nervous I was like now I have no I've done the liver yeah no it has to be good and my next post is just another video of me dancing in my bedroom so and how did that do it went viral yeah so really it went back-to-back cuz a lot of people have something go viral and then it goes right back to normal but literally your next video also wimpin it's in ever since that video I've had every video go viral right say okay a lot of views yeah which is after the first one you didn't post for two days what's the conversation with you and your inner circle you and your sister you and your friends was it a holy [ __ ] this happened what are we talking maybe black so at that point took touch this usually july-august that right sorry right yeah the first one was in late May the 15th or so wasn't so you guys are in summer yeah so what's the scene like what happens in those 48 hours are you like strategizing with your homies no I was going to the pool with my friends I know did anyone know um somebody people that followed yeah but I wasn't talking about it a lot because I was like it's Tech Talk it's like not cool yeah it wasn't like to wear this yeah that's right let's talk about that because that's why I want you guys on because I want people to learn to your point and this is what this is how so much can happen just to paint the picture and confirm this for me Charlie if we're talking this summer not it was you're you're 14 at the time or 15 15 to your point this is where I don't think people understand literally six months ago to a 15 year old girl tik-tok is not cool it was skewing a little younger right like 8 9 10 11 12 for sure it like guys were not on it at all ish or just kind of tiny bit so just an we're here obviously right before the end of the year it is very cool for both boys and girls yeah and for nine - you know easily up to 25 and then after that you have to be really cool for you know but like like literally but it's exactly you and I literally even when you went back to school I would argue just thinking about my timing that it still hasn't really penetrated guys yet it was like really September October where I felt like oh [ __ ] the guys Domino has now fallen this is about to get [ __ ] crazy yeah I mean people would ask me oh you have followers like what's it on I'd be like oh it's it's it's like social media I don't know like you downplay I wouldn't say Tech Talk cuz then people would be like oh what are you seven yeah I feel even I well she's your older sister because she's supposed to do really don't embarrass me yes that's so amazing a conversation the big conversation leading up to school starting she was nervous cuz she was yeah thinking about what kids would say when she got to school or do tick-tock like even though she had a lot of followers that was a concern but then she started actually getting like opportunities and making money so then it was okay but the funny thing is they all post on tik-tok - it's just now that I have a following behind me they're like oh that's cringy she like actually tries like no all of you guys try to of course there's all those dynamics I think what's of course and that will be no matter how big or small platform is there's always like this subconscious of like what kid teenagers do to each other as they form their self-esteem or lack thereof I think what's more interesting for everybody who's listening is the speed in which the culture changes you know something that you two won't know about but your parents will there was something I used to talk about I don't talk about a lot now which was the stigma of online dating in like the early 2000s like I just remember because this is what I was good I'm like this is gonna be huge but for years I'm talking like 1996 I mean again three of us know it was probably not until like the late mm I would say was 2015 wasn't it tender come out maybe 14 15 like it took a good ten years fifty twelve years of online dating being huge before people would admit that they like people lied for people got married through match.com and made up stories of how they met there was stigma the speed in which tick-tocks positioning in culture like saying it one more time the fact that September 4th you're debating whether you even want to let anybody in school know that you're starting to get viral I'm tick-tock - now every single person in your school is either subconsciously or consciously proud of you the soci Asian and the whole thing and also want it for themselves is just an incredible change in temperature and is very important for everybody's listening because this is a business podcast at the end of the day a lot of entrepreneurs we talked in the past a little bit about it like people say no all the time I bet you subconsciously Dixie's like [ __ ] maybe I should have started three weeks earlier than they actually did you know like it's what you do it's what you do I mean me and the team talked about it a lot too which is like I think I sent something two weeks ago I'm like we have to go harder tick tock is crossing over even like we need more content things that nature so okay so you get to school and some people know how's the first week like I have what happens cuz at that point going into September I still would what do you were you a freshman or sophomore deaf boy sophomore I would still argue to your to agree with you it's still not winning high school so that's September you're probably still a little more like in the shadows definitely I would say I was very very shy about telling people about it and I wouldn't say anything unless they talked about it to me first because I'm not going around school saying like oh I I don't just talk of course but it's just something that I do for fun and of course some people had their things to say about it and I was like okay and then yeah just kind of rubbed it off you know yep but no matter what like I'm still having I was still having fun doing it like dad where are you in this whole mix when does it hit your radar that there's something brewing and end and I mean honestly - you know where do you come from that you know having you know teenage daughters like I'm sure a lot of dads are listening right now and like can associate like you've got a different perspective on this then mom does than they do like where's your are you just like looking to fight every dude on tick-tock like where do you come at you know it's funny we I noticed early on and I've listened to you a lot and I've noticed that you know we were just really supportive from the beginning but we started to see things when we were out to dinner kids coming up and looking at her and I was like why are they people staring at us and then I started to put it all together did that happen during the summer yes that happened during the summer we're up and we're up in New Haven and when's the first time somebody came up to you and said oh my god you're Charlie from tick tock it took a while people I would have I would see people and I'd like why are they staring at me what am i doing am i doing something wrong and then I'd get but but deanne later yeah don't play with me here because I know you enough a little bit like no that's okay you're humble because you are a very humble girl but like real life you knew what was happening well maybe like you knew that you were getting two million I got like hundreds of thousands of views on it take that bet theoretically a thirteen-year-old might actually know who you are it wasn't on my mind all the time because I listen to guys like even now it does not feel that way at all when people are like like have that feeling and like when I really at the meet and greet in like hugging people and they were shaking I was like like it was like hitting me like this is real it still is kind of like well there's a difference between knowing and it being surreal like like I was in the airport yesterday and somebody comes up and just started crying and telling me a story of like how it helped her get out of a toxic release but abusive toxic relationship that's so real like I sit there and I'm like my god me and my band of misfits what else but we put out stuff and it really helps people that's surreal but I know it's happening you know what I mean Dixie's like like you knew at that point when you did the mean green we'll get to the meeting greet which was a moment itself like that that that knew there was things going on but it was so real for you to watch somebody Drive three hours and shake and cry and hug your sister but the thing is when you see people looking at you you never think like oh they know me from tik-tok I like especially on the other way now if somebody kind of barely glances at me at the airport but what they're really mad is I might have cut them in line at Starbucks what I'm thinking is like I've changed their life and they think I'm the coolest they want a selfie and I can't wait to give it to them yeah I've completely phased that chasm I'm joking but I just I don't think about it all the time because once again I'm just I'm dancing I'm just doing what I've been doing my entire life taking videos of myself dancing honestly I think it's so new communicate I respect the living [ __ ] out of you keeping it in perspective I I think what's gonna be really fun for me to watch you go through is you not even having to hedge that through conversation you realizing your actions will lead to that I mean it because you're getting so much judgment it's so front of mine for you to talk in the demeanor you're talking I love it I think it's gracious I just think I'd like to tell you good news you just acting the part will always work itself out the world is undefeated in its truth if you're good it will play out if you're bad it will play out if you get high on your own supply and think you're somebody it will play out regardless of the words you say in public your actions will play out I mean that that's why I want you guys here I really think like there have been listened to paint a picture if you're not in tick tock culture this is not just like people that have gone viral on YouTube or Instagram like Charlie what is your bio say on the tick tock don't worry I don't get that and what that means is you have that are saying Charlie gained a ton of out how many of you at ma'am ten point six million love it so obviously there's enormous growth of following and by the way how many did you have on on July fourth like three thousand right so like you know real hyper growth but like for everybody understand that doesn't this wasn't just another person that got a lot of followers I think of Charlie the way I think of DJ Khaled and Ashton Kutcher and let me give a social media lesson history lesson now it was Ashton Kutcher going on CNN and challenging CNN to see who would be the first account to get to a million followers on Twitter that really made Twitter hit like the public consciousness and he was the human associated with the thing it was dj khaled getting stuck on in the water on snapchat snapchat had already happened but it was DJ Khaled and snapchat that had their moment together tik-tok had already happened but charlie is that person for the tic-tock world it just is that way it's true she was the one that became like the thing and was the one that has crossed over in a way of recognition so it's it's a lot to take on there's a lot of people which is amazing about the world that have gotten internet famous over the last decade there's plenty of people there's a lot there are far less people who are in the moment you're in where like the whole thing is about that thing for a little bit and by the way and I think you're probably already feeling this it's already on the other side of it like it all moves so quick like there was absolutely two weeks where all of tick-tock just decided everything was about this girl and even though she's still way up there in the biggest and 10.3 and all that stuff we're not in exactly that moment yet because attention spans and interests and memes and culture move so quickly and I bet you in a lot of ways that's good and and in a lot of ways that is such a fun moment to be in the eye of the storm and by the way just like a hurricane the storm is still very much there right now but you might not be necessarily in the deepest middle of the eye um okay so when does the when does a thawing out happen what does your older sister succumb and say [ __ ] I need to be able to train as well and I'm not gonna make fun of you when do your friends come on when des when do you start feeling a tone and tenor and school change when this when do things change a little bit and and why was there a singular video I want to hear for everybody dicks I see you want to jump in there what's your what's your perspective it might not be hers so we started having family dinners and and Emily where you always have been known that we we just started okay ladies we sat down as a family we're gonna start having the family dinners cuz you all realize that Charlie was gonna be moving away to Hollywood let's have a couple of those Morgan thinks he was going to college next year nice going dick and I I was an on take talk I was all my videos were private I didn't have my name as my username no one could find me yeah and all the conversation at dinner tick-tock tick-tock this person follow me this this video you're so quick I apologize no yeah give me cuz I want to get this this like fun for me and I think educational brothers who were some of the people that followed you I'm tick-tock that led to you cuz that's what you're going through at first you're not only getting the followers like me and my team to this day when like when the rock DM me or like like Shawn Mendel a queer still freaking and I love we are things like when it's like a Jets the Jets kicker thicken the New York Jets kicker followed me this week on Instagram I was like losing my mind on a plane last night thick like diems okay you know like who who were some of those early people for you it was all of the people that were big on take talk before I even got on to talk and I was like why give me some shots so many it was like anybody speak ok people that are on like all the tours like all the big tour more even got the app like chase Taylor Brice all of them and like and besides that just dancers oh yeah McKenzie Ziegler following me I was like losing your [ __ ] oh where were you the second you saw that where was I it was right after I did my first ever interview with famous birthdays and I just hit 500,000 and I had said in my interview I really want to dance with Maddie Mackenzie Ziegler one day and then she followed me and I was like what is going on what am i do why as my as vice is happening she knows who I you have enough of a platform were like this is by the way like three years ago AJ said to me hey can do me a favor can you just shout out things that I want like if I have want a pair of sneakers can be like oh those new ones are cool because I know something that's really cracking the system fair enough and I've been able to like build the relationship with her where she was like hey I just made a song like do you wanna take talk to me and I was like of course like yeah of course and she posted it on her Instagram story and I was like this is that and I was able i was able to meet her at an event and it's just like what is my like get it so dicks back to you so tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock this person's following me this person's follow me you're like [ __ ] this is supposed to be my year he's my last and you're [ __ ] charlie stealing my [ __ ] I need to [ __ ] figure this out yeah okay so I was like all right you know what she's about to hit 1 million followers I was like Charlie let's make a tick-tock I'm gonna change my username let's do one together so we did one we dressed the exact same and did a cool thing like she cut me out and then we switched spots or whatever and she tagged me and I changed my username and then it just started I was like I was like okay I'm not gonna be annoyed by this anymore I'm just gonna Klout chase her a little bit but it was for my my when I hit 1 million I was like okay yeah we can do a video that was like the rule she se was in some of her yeah sprinkled throughout and people boy she's a sister Wes who's that can I get her ass yeah all right that's all we were trying to add me on snapchat yeah and then they did the big one and she really started her account when the dad become a phenom oh they love him yeah I'm very aware of a attention everything his fans they they only like him like he's their Lord and Savior group ever like to get the girls you know I was a 13 year old 15 year old 6 year old boy at one time and this is kind of like keep your friends close keep your enemies closer so it was just that's that's the position I took [ __ ] how much of that is a concern they're in like a very interesting age to get this level of exposure like how much does that run through your mind I mean it's a concern anyways and always I mean we I think we talked to you about this but one of the things we said and we maybe get to a point of no return but I talk with him every day if you guys are not happier today than you were three months ago then maybe we gotta pull the plug on this thing you know it's funny you're really not from a point of no return she can have 47 million first so there's a couple cool things that just like any child star like clearly people have gone in different directions right like Leo DiCaprio ones this way like Punky Brewster goes like you can all do different [ __ ] what's really cool about social is she's gonna have they're both gonna have to like you're gonna have like two moments one the one where you decide where she goes you know if you think about it at the age she's at right now one could argue a common thing could be she's on the verge of going to school because she decides to and that's what she wants and now she's now three full years of this insanity and she might say you know what for my freshman year of college you know after what my big sister told me I'm just gonna calm it down this is where I'm gonna take I'm just not gonna post for two months and of course everyone's gonna still know her and all that stuff but it is a hamster wheel if you don't produce the market will move there's you know we've even seen this me educating the audience you know the hype would Charlie has led to other girls having to have hype and then them and just a fun thing for the boys to do of like which girl do you think is cute or funny or nice or whatever nonetheless that will be the first moment where she decides the second moment which has been one of the most interesting things for me to watch over the last 15 years in analyzing social is the moment the platform changes and she decides that she want to take her equity to the next thing or not Tila Tequila and Dean cook one myspace they did not take that equity and then go in Twitter right DJ Khaled did not take the equity from snapchat and went ham on tik tok and could have and still probably killed so there's these moments of transition where the platform loses its clout forget about the individual and then the individual decides do they want to siphon one of things that I observed from watching from afar cuz I'm watching everything is when Charlie decided to start her YouTube platform and how she's gone on her Instagram platform that's a hedge which i think is super smart gives her options but those are gonna be the two moments by the way your YouTube first video like how do you announce it is still one of my favorite moments of the year as someone who cannot dance it was funny when you said they're easy like anybody can do those dances I was laughing I'm gonna not me more simple a she talked about like there are certain things I can really do and then there's things I can't think rhythm and these dances is not one of the things but I you know I think I think that that's gonna be the moments she can always ban you really can they'll always be the residual and at some level already at this level of notoriety in her age group it will carry with her for hope for the very long time it just changes you know there was a point in time where people stopped freaking out about you know Zack Morris from Saved by the Bell and then it becomes nostalgic and cool like like that what's cool about this moment is if she goes in a completely different direction and what-have-you she'll be 36 and have somebody come up to her and say hey you know who's up her age now so it's there's a lot there we find that and we've talked talked about this stars at you and I probably know that kind of drifted off and and so there's no part of our life where we have a person come up to us and and it bothers us or we it's amazing form and we've absolutely real connection with you guys I've had I'm the same and I've noticed that when you're driven by gratitude of the situation not getting high on your own supply you know not thinking you're better anybody not being overly worried I think you guys have a really good even keel to the whole approach I mean please without this I would I'd be going to school today like doing normal stuff and I've been doing my whole life like I'm just so thankful that I get opportunities to do things like this that if someone sees me and wants to take a picture like I want to make sure I give them my full attention so they know that as much as they support me I'm so thankful that they would ever even think twice about me Charlie that's amazing at this point honestly it is at this point what are you thinking about from a creative standpoint forget about the stuff we've been talking about you inherently are a creative person you've said you've danced your whole life things that make sure so are you starting to think about right now as a creator for tick tock and then we'll blend it into YouTube and Instagram and other things if we want are you trying to challenge yourself to come up with new [ __ ] like what do you like what are you thinking about right now as like your next video so I've actually made two of these point of view videos that are so unlike me but I think it's so cool that I can now use those two weeks of just straight hey I got to use that because now it just doesn't affect me I just don't care let's talk about that so they hate because of the Meetup because of everything like just were just like I don't go type I don't get it she's right average and I was just like oh really now I'm just like okay you're sitting on at home on your phone writing hate comments about a 15 year old girl like right who's who's genuinely happier right now you changed us that day yeah we funny yeah yeah that helped because it's hard when we as parents it there we want to wring people's necks and then we are we have to be the adults and then they and then you as in your level and and you've dealt with this like we haven't dealt with this so we didn't know about it and it's easy and we've started to do you know when people who are like say not the really nasty stuff but some of the negative we flip it around and joke around like someone said to me the other day today we're driving in I did tick-tock and said you have to pay her hundred seven dollars I said she gave me a seven dollar discount it was a hundred even yeah he's like and so we own it and that's it it's empathy like I said that day like I'm glad I know it's funny that point of view I have I think it's helped a lot of people and I actually think it's the truth like if you're in such a bad place that you want to bring somebody else down I actually I do feel empathetic I pleased that that day after that day you hit her first and she really took what you said and ran with it it took us a little bit longer yep it's just hard to see people like coming out your kids Oh so we're Oi yes and even she say like I'm not getting upset about it you guys just shouldn't care and we're like it's really a perspective shift yeah and we did after that day we were done I was I was I was getting so upset and I was like wow I guess I really am average like it was just all running through my head and I would just believe you were so average that 29 percent of the teenage boy population has devoted their love to you that average I think one of the things that she's had is like people just saw her dancing and they didn't get to really and what she's done and what we've done as a family that people are starting to know us as a family and we're letting them into our lives and they're saying wow they are there they seem like such nice people they're normal they deal with the same things we deal with and that's changed a lot of it that's also super important thing Charlie listen this is now almost talking about you as if you're not here for me the thing that really mattered about you for me was that you were a girl that wasn't overly sexify your self for the attention I thought it was a super important I mean in the most macro I mean this it was super important that a girl like you came along and won because it can show so many young girls that you don't have to expose your skin and and and I mean it's it's I actually think it makes so much sense I think America is very good and culture and humans are very good at counter moves I think we've just gone through an era of very excessive sex efficacious of young women with like surgeries and clothes and things of that nature so I think it just makes a lot of sense that you became the countermove I really believe that's what happened and I think you you will be very proud as you get older and and and think about you'll be proud of your parents and proud of your sister and proud of yourself I think it's way bigger than you actually it's way better than all four of you realize I know it's way bigger than almost every but this is the one thing I'm good at perspective right what I did for you guys that day is perspective let me go super high up there are millions of girls right now in their brains that are in a much better place because you came along that's not necessarily and by the way in a way to stay humble about it that's not you that's just circum there's a million things that went into that but it's one of the great things that happen in 2019 that it happened because it's helped a lot of young girls cuz when they look at you then I could've minute I don't have to do this that or the other thing to get the attention of boys or people or followers or clout that's a big breakthrough it's a really nice moment and you and I I'm really happy for the four of you that you'll be associated with it because I promise you in three four years people catch up with my take on this and it will be looked back at that moment because I believed it to be true yeah well you make my wife cry and honestly it's the same way I think about everything that happens for me and anybody else if there's so many variables that go into it there's so many you know it's like you know you don't have to overthink it but it is wildly true I already I I watch I already see it I already see it because when that becomes the North Star people parrot that behavior it's the same way I feel about me as like an influencer on Instagram as an alpha guy using words like empathy and caring and kindness it's changed things you know I now see people I see guys like guys guys like you know who like try to be cool using nice words like like it's an impact it's really cool and I'm really happy that you'll be able to like know how true that is over time what about the Meetup give us the 30 I just want to educate the crowd so your start explode and how does the concept come up like let's do something for people to come and meet me so what I was saying was no one's gonna come this is gonna be horrible I don't Becca yeah back up a little bit oh so do D so my home dance studio has no treble yeah the spot just oh so my home dancer you know that I've been going to you for a long time it was like hey a lot of the students know who you are and they really like your tik-tok so you should just come by and like say hi cuz you know I I'm mostly trained in New York City now so I'm not there as often as I was a couple years ago and they were like we'll just do like a quick little like meetup thing like the people in the CEO shoot of you should it's super straight with me cuz this is what I want from you because it will help people there's the into it and the cringe part of this moment right you've got a hundred percent how much of you is in the cringe part how much of you is like you've seen all these other people you know you're of the age where you know what happened on vine and you know what happened so you've seen meetups and tours before it's not like you're like what is this you're no dope we're where do you sit on this as its approaching at fifty fifty I was a hundred percent okay I was like no Rick can I ask you a real question then yeah if that's true did you feel obligated to do the a nice thing for the studio it wasn't that I felt obligated it was that I talked about it in one of my videos and I was like would anyone comment everyone's like yes I talked about it on a live video it was like should I do it like I don't know because at this point I was I didn't feel like no one's gonna show up to this I'm gonna post about it no one hundred one hundred percent cringe never leads to saying yes to it so that's why I'm trying to figure out why you did it well I was I were you curious how many people show up okay that's where I didn't know it was gonna happen I'm very open did you feel deep down again I'm trying to get you to say things that you wouldn't normally say cuz I think it would help people did you you knew what the moment that you were in was there a little back to curiosity you knew there was some chance that it was gonna be crazy not as crazy as it was no it was it was just I had no idea what I was getting myself into with this yep I was just like Oh it'll be some kids from what did you what did the parent wouldn't you guys think about it it was just she she didn't have I mean she had a lot of followers but not like crazy how many did you have at the time okay and the far cry from 10 million yeah and so it started out super simple and so we're like we're not so I told mark about it and he was like we're not charging I'm like no nobody's in it to make money just so he could like meet some new kids and then I reached out to the studio again I'm like alright we're all in but it's just for the studio she was like well I feel like maybe we could like there's so many they are getting phone calls is Charlie there what class is she taking I want to take class here so maybe we should put it for you know put it out there yep and I was like okay and then I said so just so you know we're not we don't want to make money off of it she was like no I see there she's like well maybe we could do like a fundraiser those family in the studio whose daughter was diagnosed with ALS that they wanted to help out I think that's nice her friend by the way on the record as an entrepreneur I actually think sometimes having a charge for something is a good filter to control complete ridiculousness I really do believe that like this notion and I didn't follow this enough to know the details that you're going into I know enough to know that there was a donation component that some people took out of context this happens to everybody all the time I'm just gonna go in a different place with it which is this is America if Charlie wants to charge eight thousand dollars for someone to hop I charge 200 thousand dollars to give a speech that's more money that I made that for the first five years of my career working every day like like don't count somebody else's money I think we weren't pretending that there we don't realize that there's potential to make money in this we just didn't want this first one to come across like we're trying to go this is back to what I said to Charlie earlier it was a fundraiser absolutely the end 100% people's hot takes or headline readings never this is where we went wrong and this is from being in experience so her so we're half was going to the family in the studio the other half her friend has a charity and who's gonna go to that four cut kids with special needs ok here was the problem done ok we'll do an event bright there was a woman that was helping us she was like have the studio do an event right okay here's the copy they put it up looked I looked at it on like it looks good to me debate it over the cost yeah oh let's make the VIP a little bit nicer people are coming by the way that's been established forever yeah that's how that's how Cameron Dallas made money that's how you know Nash Grier made money like that's how it was done and a lot of them did it for charity a lot of them did it for not charity so when it was posted XP pulled up Cameron dalas good so people read it and they were like and then I think he's super dreamy they just on the record and oh and there's a seven dollar fee but that's where it that's our thing it turned on high I get it for everybody who's not following along there was a charity component people it sounds like the execution could have been better yeah so I don't have that lame people it became a little bit of a storm like she was 14 seconds into her fame she's trying to make money it's the same old [ __ ] it's actually a non-event because the truth always kind of prevails I have a far more important question Charlie how many proms have you been invited to like I need a real good guess from you I could probably go to one every weekend if I if I really - and do you or than know but are you gonna make some boys dream like are you do blonde I did one yeah I went one last weekend and he came to my meet and greet and he asked me infinite oh I remember that so I gotta go I went through with it and it was good he was a very sweet boy yeah they both were yeah it was fun I mean it was old you go with dicks his friends he was at the background of the video dancing I was like that's so good but it was like really fun it was really fun yeah there was like only weird thing people were like videotaping in the bath wash my hands but yeah yeah it was fun it was it was fun for the most part it was something that I never would it was like first ever formal with him Dan it was like the winter formal yeah yeah I'm like prom season first every school dance with a boy a minute and meet-and-greet was like exactly write it up yeah you're a kid but I mean I was just it is still fun I enjoyed myself had a good time talking about the other social networks real quick I'd love your perspective so you blow up on this one where do you sit on the others do you like them do you think it's like smart to do just in case you need it like where are you where's your mind at what the other platforms Instagram I use it a lot I've had it for a long time yep so I just enjoy posting pictures of me with my friends I'm doing stuff photoshoot pictures all that fun stuff snapped and I use it my Instagram stories to like keep people show and I'm doing Nina and then snapchat I'll post on those stories sometimes that's more where I post like dancing improv stuff like that so you want to see me dancing now as a place for your actual friends it's the people that I have added and they have added they have me added back like those are people that I talk to look when you talk to your friends is it texting is it Snap is it Instagram like what is the equation app chat or texting and calling yep so I'll use that to tell you - and sometimes yeah I I watch you - sometimes what about you posting on it uh I'm working on it I'm not it doesn't come natural to you yeah it's just it's a lot harder yeah take talk so I'm still getting used to it but I would love to be able to post on it a lot more show people my personality what about Twitter I just got verified on Twitter which is like crazy but um my tweets are kind of all over the place like I tweeted I would like a Dunkin Donuts brand deal because I drank one two three cups of cold brew coffee a day so and then Duncan replied it was like what is going on I tweeted app Duncan known as just replied to me my life is now complete like I'll just be like just do the renegade dance and move on you know it's so it's just like random things like that I don't use it for anything important just to tweet whatever I'm thinking any other platforms to look at her use but that's just like for pictures that I don't feel like posting on Instagram because like Instagram is more good pictures that are this more like person yeah yes these are like pictures I took like a selfie if you know the same in theory the same way you think about stories like yeah understood dad what do you think about all this where are you guys at at this exact moment what's the State of the Union we're having fun we're balancing it all and and we're taking one day at a time you know it's it's not so easy like every day there's a new opportunity a new thing and it's just like it's it's kind of like fun that wedding part of it yeah yeah but that's the way our life was before this right I work I'm in the clothing business I work from home I have an office in the city so I'm not a nine-to-five or never have been on my own clothing brand so we would I mean we we sat home on a Christmas night one night and we're just like guys let's get out of here and we got on the plane and went to Miami for like we're that time there was a spontaneous element to the family to begin with and yeah and the cool thing about like I think where this she there were definitely pivotal moments in her in this whole thing and one of them was she knew enough to say I was going on to California for a business trip and she's like dad can I can I come and I know and I'm not trying to Pat myself on the back but I know other parents or some parents like no way might have said what are you kidding me got this and I was like cool let's go get your hit and she came she stayed in the hotel with me she went out and met a bunch of these other tik-tok errs I brought it a famous birthdays and that's just kind of the way we roll so we're taking one day at a time and what's on your mind these days it's just so much I I I'm wondering if there's gonna be a time where it's a little easier to mmm just have a complete thought oh oh and this let's talk about this know out of everybody sitting at this table you understand this the best do you remember when you had Dixie yes of course do you remember how [ __ ] insane those first couple weeks worth do you remember how eventually there was a time where you could like settle in okay yeah think you're welcome really really like you know as I really think you can relate to that yeah I think that's what's gonna happen I needed that you're welcome this is what I do every something yes what about for you um it's very crazy I've never been more happy that I got into college in August before school even started because if I was doing that right now I don't think I would have made the tic-tock account or continued interesting so you wage things yeah the way things worked I if I wasn't in college right now like already like my school would not be I was okay with me missing this me classes and my parents are still saying like schools the number one priority I'm like how every this weekend we had we we had I had an off day and went to Jingle Ball and then we went to the meet-and-greet and then we went through school dance and then we went to a meet and greet and then I went to school the next day like I don't know what are your friends sang to you when you show up randomly once every two weeks like there's nothing better than friends right like you walk right in and they like complete just start [ __ ] on you yeah I know just what are you saying ask me questions yes I know I have a jam on my tooth like it feels good like seeing them and I miss like hanging out with all my friends but I just you just know it's a moment mm-hmm you're gonna squeeze it yeah and we're not pushing them for work I think which he means to say what I've said is we want you to have options if she goes if she's a go-go in Alabama and also in Jesus is well yo being entrepreneurial really helps people don't understand the value of optionality I I mean the single reason that I've built a brand a personal brand is four options there's nothing better than options and and I think what attracted to me to you you guys was the amount of times I've walked into the moment that I walked into a month ago with you with you guys and I said it to you too immediately and saw oh this could get ugly fast and to see that not be I there are very few lien again either sports representation business so we're seeing families all the time that have kids are about to go to the NFL I'm living the life that I'm living I see a lot of [ __ ] like I said it to you Charlie then I'll say it again like you're very very very fortunate cuz it's very hard for parents to calibrate this moment very hard and it's really cool thank you it's really really really cool it really really really matters and I think for a lot of people that are listening right now DMing you know the parents for like thoughts on this I think it really matter I would actually try to compel the two of you to consider starting a podcast or putting out content from a complete perspective of parent that I think could really help you know I really do I really do mean that because I don't think people understand how calm when I wrote crush it my first book like if you read that right now and I wrote in 2008 I basically wrote about Charlie like I basically wrote like hey don't get this twisted this is what the Internet's gonna do it's gonna turn a ton of normal people into different versions of celebrity not everyone most people will never get to Charlie's level most people not amassed 10 million followers on a platform let alone a single platform overall but everybody is in a place of fifteen hundred three thousand and guess what and you probably remember this 3,000 feels like 10 million let me remind everybody that she worried about her next post after the first one so we're all living on the record in a way that we've never had and there's a lot of reframing conversations that society needs to deal with it and I believe it can be very good and yet everyone I mean the amount of judgment you two are getting from your parenting peers without them knowing anything right yeah is enormous and it's it takes a lot of self-esteem as parents to be able to continue to doing what's right for the girls a lot harder than people realize a lot harder and I think they're they're very good about keeping us in check we still do chores well no like people think that's great you don't have a robot doing that for you yet and I was like I put in a vlog it was like yeah okay it's time to go into the dishwasher and people like oh my god someone somebody reached out and they it was about a job that she was they wanted her to do whatever and they said you know I messaged her and she hasn't gotten back I'm like cuz I ever fall until her rooms clean so sorry if they're just like you still do that like yeah yeah that's why the friends are good too yeah I think that's why I want to ask you that like I'm like pumped that's what friends are for your friends are there for when you come back to like ground you yeah and then you've got each other yeah that's been that's been huge are you kidding like I think that siblings are such a special thing and I always think siblings shine in two extreme moments this great moment but it's a lot or like real tragic moments and so like they have a lot of similarities where you get into a little bit of a cocoon and I think it's gonna be foundational for them and honestly watching the whole thing go down I actually have a ton of empathy for the humility that Dixie had to execute back don't we touched on it a little bit here but I want to say this cuz I think there's a lot of siblings out there right now that their younger sibling has something happening and they're doing everything they can to not lean into it because they don't have the humility to do it and I think it's coming at the detriment of both people in that scenario so it was really fun for me to watch again from afar I'm like good for her because think guys Dixie doesn't want her friends making fun of her that she's like you know flexing off of her little sister like that's exactly what her friends like that people don't remember like how it is like that's exactly what I would do if she was my friend inscrutable you know like you know like that takes a level of humility and I think I don't know I think there's been a lot of great acting here with this family and I appreciate it and I'm really excited that a whole new audience is about to know who you guys are and that's why I wanted you on and I wish you the best New Year's you
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Published: Fri Dec 20 2019
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