Bad Boy vs Toro Titan Residential Mowers

what's up everybody welcome to Main Street mowers YouTube channel today we have a treat for you this is a video I've been waiting to make for a very long time I have two of the best residential mowers on the market right now and we're gonna be comparing them all day today we're gonna be putting through the gauntlet is what I'm gonna call this these are the two competitors right here the bad-boy ZT elite versus the Toro Titan 60 inch of both 60 inch cuts so I did get the best - of this class from both brands so I'm really excited we got a lot of stuff to test out today stay tuned and I hope you enjoy today we are comparing these two mowers I think the top of the line residential mowers or a person who owns you know anywhere from 1 to 15 acres even more who wants to cut their own grass and he wants to be a heavy-duty it's gonna last them that's kind of commercial quality but not commercial priced and that's where these two mowers kind of fall in this is the Toro Titan 60 inch and this is the bad boys UT Leafs that you can use both companies are fighting hard to win this kind of market so they've made these mowers so competitive and competitively priced competitively I expect and so it's very interesting to see them in person to use them in person and to see which one's better and obviously I'm a Toro dealer I wear a Torah hat I rep Toro gear I grew up on tour I sell Toro every day I own Toro I love Toro [Music] but I haven't mode that much with a bad boy so I wanted to make a video where I gave it a on a shakedown I'm gonna put on I'm gonna put hours on it today and actually mow with it and actually see if it's good if I like it maybe I like it maybe I mow with it a mic hey this thing's actually totally baller you know bad boy is kind of a newer company I mean they've been around for a little less than 20 years and they've been making a big movement in the market and you start to see bad boy dealerships pop up everywhere and they're making moves they're doing good things they make tall grass short and so does Toro and so I wanted to show them some respect today but I also wanted to compare them because there's a lot of interesting comments out there there's not a lot of comparison videos between these two and I think it deserves a fair shake down on both sides and I'm going to try to be as unbiased as possible during this video we're gonna test these on three different terrains today we're gonna mow the roughest bumpiest craziest stuff I could possibly find we're gonna mow a beautiful st. Augustine lawn and we're gonna mow a baseball field at the lowest we can cut really and so we're gonna we're gonna really test the quality of cut the durability the strength the comfort and just kind of talk about all the little pieces that make a Toro and that make a bad boy good and I'm gonna try to be as unbiased as possible I promise but just know that I am a Toro dealer and I love Toro and so I'm coming from that angle but I am not trying to sell you a Toro today I'm just trying to show you the difference between these two and and that's why we're here so I'm excited to do that so stay tuned we're figuring out which one these bad boys no pun intended is best [Music] okay guys the first challenge is the fine cut the low the beautiful the cut on the micro-level right now we're at West Orange high school in Orlando Florida actually it's in Winter Garden Florida and the head coach let us come out here we're gonna cut some grass on this baseball field as low as these babies would go and believe it or not you can cut a baseball field like this with a mower like one of these you don't have to have a giant reel mower you can cut a beautiful lawn like this with a rotary style blade something cool that you guys might not know is that this grass currently is being cut right now you can see how beautiful it is by a Toro Zee master with rotary style blades a 60-inch kind of like one of these but it's slightly more commercial so if you've never thought one of these could be cut with a rotary style Toro mower they absolutely can and look how beautiful this field is this type of grass this is a Bermuda very short type of grass you're cutting it at one and a half one and three quarters sometimes and one and a quarter sometimes and so this is flat we're gonna be just trimming this the tips off probably just inch and a half as low as these go and we're gonna be cutting this beautiful field we're gonna see how well they stack up but because I am bias I'm trying to be unbiased and I'm wearing a tour hat even I wear tour hat every day so for today I'm switching hats and I put on my non biased American hat because these babies are american-made it's my mow hat and I hope you guys enjoy we're gonna mow around some goats Jay's gonna hop on one I'm gonna hop on the one we're gonna ride around a little bit mow some we're gonna switch roll around and ride some and then we're gonna compare cuts how they felt we're gonna interview him ask him about how he's currently cutting this lawn and get some more details about how do you keep grass so beautiful year-round check [Music] I wanted to get coach Jays opinion on how it felt how what does it feel like driving these first of all and you can just see from the different cuts that this one and a half inch cut was a lot lower than the bad one and a half inch cut off just from a writing standpoint that one felt the Toro felt it's so much more professional so much less vibration coming up through the seat their turns were a lot more nimble that to me felt like a commercial machine where this kind of felt more like a know maybe I'm the sheet for a home on kind of felt funky to me that a little bit clunky a little bit boxy and you know that the turns weren't as crisp this machine the Toro felt much more nimble the stillness coming up through the seat very little vibration this one was a little bit more you know kind of had a little bit more of a rattle to it yeah he actually seemed like he could zip a little bit faster too yeah yeah I can see the difference in the cut for sure that the Toro definitely took it down a little bit deeper and I know that you were asking me before about the Toro machine that I have for my field and taking care of this field when I reached out to you and and stew about a machine for this that I can afford with the high school budget he recommended the Toro I was a on the rotary mower I was a little bit reluctant because we had been cutting with a John Diehl rear wheels mower yeah the the problem with the John Deere real smaller was it was just breaking down too much we have a striping machine on it which straight to the field it looks like a professional ballpark right we do it in half the time it used to take me about almost two hours to to cut the deal with a real mower when you have the Toro is it zips I can come up here and you know I'm an hour you know hour and I'm done it's just like clubs are long that's awesome okay I'm so glad you let us come out here and kind of play around with these guys we didn't ask coach Jay to promote Toro or anything like that this field is motor tutorial and we knew it he had some bias towards Toro and I just wanted to get prep with that and we just wanted to come out here and try them in to see how it feels and I've never mowed grass this short and it is it is technical you could make a big mistake really quick you know and just twisting the tires or whatever but man I was like just it was exciting this is like a dream come true to come out here and mow some and just think of just how much sunlight this kids how much water this can be drinking and this grass is just like a an animal and you have a toro he has a 3000 series that he's been cutting this with and how beautiful this looks and how beautiful can look just glue the normal rotary mower in and guys when I'm comparing the coop that's here the bad boy cut looks good the Toro cut looks good the Torah is a little lower where we loaded the bad boy is greener and simply because we get lowest bunch but I was noticing good dispersion I was going with this it was kicking the grass out really well that's another big factor too because if we don't get rain for a while that closes dead grass will affect the other grass that's why this doesn't get the somebody in the water so but you know the dispersion on that is really good what I used to have to do is reel smaller a lot of times was we have to cut it and you know even with the dead grass that's on the fields we have to come back with another type of mower and blow the grass all over the place right but with the Toro as much as it goes we plant we don't have to do that that's cool okay thank you so much chip is great here is awesome yeah like I said being out here I love that this is like to come to we see the hot dog come on hey guys we're in the second part of the test we have made it to the st. Augustine lawn we're gonna be cutting around four inches or actually exactly four inches on both machines I'm gonna cut and try to get a feel for them a little bit more you know I haven't mode much with the bad boy until just you know that other property and it also cuts good the cut looks nice makes tall grass short grass makes short grass shorter grass and the Toro does the same make short grass shorter grass I did like the way the twirl felt a little better on the other property I like the way it turned better I like the way the seatbelt as far as cut quality they both looked really good the the bad boy I don't know if the kind of cut was accurate and so I don't think I was taking off as much so it wasn't as obvious or where I cut with the bad boy is it what's with the Toro and I think that might be because of how deep their deck is they have a very deep deck they say that helps with the airflow and helps with dispersion I'm not sure if it actually does or not Toro has a slightly shallower deck and they say that actually helps with higher velocity air and they have a higher blade tip speed then the bad boy does and so I did notice that there was more rationing out when I had the Toro on that baseball field and special shout out Thank You Jay for letting us cut out there that was just awesome the Toro did great I loved the way it felt I love the way the the steering felt you know what's interesting the it's just going off what I've just experienced the bad-boy dampeners the way the handles move back and forth it's like kind of like a looks like a screen door dampener on these kind of mowers mix the door closed slowly right the bad boys dampeners are definitely like heavier like me there's like more resistance which honestly I thought at first I would like more but it kind of um almost too heavy it's like kind of tiring and like my turns I was noting a thing I just wasn't used to it so I was a little bit slower on the turns and because that I'd be turning slower then I would actually spin the wheels more because I was kind of trying to keep up with it anyway the Torah maybe just a more familiar with how Toros feel and more comfortable with how they feel but the Toro seemed to turn much nicer much smoother much be much nimbler while moving it or driving around and the my ride suspension it's kind of an unfair advantage over the bad boy because it just feels so much nicer to ride or the mad my ride system be completely no vibration from the engine you're like not hitting the bumps the same way it's a totally absorbed all of them so and not that that was very bumpy but that I think is a good test for this lawn because there's lots of little dips in this lawn and it's gonna be a lot bumpier and so it'll be a good and interesting test to see how nice to my ride is on a pretty normal lawn like this rather than that extremely man you your baseball field and so we're gonna give it a test we're gonna mow around here for a little while and see how it feels and give them both a good bashing on this lawn and then we're gonna head out to this abandoned golf course here in a minute it's like reeds and Johnson grass and just nasty stuff out there and we'll know that next that'll be like the real like suspension test fatigue test how comfortable is this mower how durable does it feel like I'm being abusive or not but we'll get to that in a second for now we're gonna cut this beautiful st. Augustine lawn we're gonna mow around with it see how it feels [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] I just got finished mowing that field but both of these and mowing this nice lawn and guys the Torah was so much more comfortable to mow with it's not even faint like the bad boy cut grass well I thought I was gonna have a worst cut than it did actually had a fine cut but the hydros felt really funny the dampeners were too heavy and it was very loud and just bumpy as heck and I just didn't enjoy driving the bad boy and I like really tried I mean I was like I'm gonna like this and I just didn't I didn't really like it and I don't know if it's the spindles the hydro idler something is very loud on the bad boy it is like whining didn't sound like anything was like loose rattling a broken it's just like in general louder I don't know if it's like a lower quality bearing or what it is there was a lot louder the ride comfort mean obviously this is a my ride so it's the most comfortable riding mower on the market and I am a huge fan they are so much more comfortable to mow on and that's the point right like we want to cut our grass and feel comfortable and get off the lawn and go back to our life back on the couch and not be just like you just got beat up for an hour and I don't feel beat up whenever I the Toro and I ride the the bad boy I feel pretty beat up like I only want to do like three passes in that field because I was like teeth chattering getting jerked around and I would mow the whole field with this mower no problem so that's just one big difference in like I said that I mean has largely dude than my ride and there is a Titan without a my ride and I'm sure I would have been beaten up more similar to the bad boy but maybe I something to consider is if you're mowing a lot of area and it's bumpy at all maybe considering my ride cuz it's awesome and totally worth it but just from the tests I had today I mean they both look very similar and cut but from everything I've seen anywhere else and I've heard the Toros cut way better but my personal experience they both cut okay there are some baffling the Toro has that the bad boy doesn't have tor also has this leading bumper rail on the front of their mower it's like a curved piece that follows the front edge of their deck and anytime you bend metal it makes it very very strong and so that's heavier duty then they have to take a strap on the front of their depth and if you had to replace your front end it is removable and that's nice too and that's not always an option on all other Miller's and I think bad boy always says Arkansas simple baby they always kind of go off that ours is simple but it's not necessarily simpler they've like complicated some things unnecessarily this electric up and down deck system on the bad boy I just don't think it's a wise thing it's just so slow to lift the deck up and down and if you see like a stump coming or something you're just gonna you're gonna hit it no way you're gonna be able to toggle that baby fast enough BAM when this all you gotta do is put your foot on the pedal and you can lift it up BAM you're up and over and so that's just something like Toro de snows simpler better better he rock we don't need a crazy electric motor I mean we literally had one of these in our shop yesterday that had the electric motor frozen or it wasn't frozen if stripped so I didn't have enough strength to lift the deck anymore and that's just something that can happen when you have a little bit more advanced part it's gonna have issues while the Toro deck lift system it just works just push put a foot on the pedal it's easy and you can see how light it is you just undo it the ham so unless you have really really short legs I would think the Toro deck lift systems a little better and I think that's something that I've noticed is that toward as well they know when to make things beefy when they need to make them beefy because they have a lot of heritage and understandings of what a mower needs it to be strong and robust and then they know when to make things simple make things easy you don't have to have the craziest thing our feature on every single point as long as you know how to do it really well so like for instance tour only has three anti Scout wheels on the front of their deck and the bad boy has four anteye scalp wheels they wound up right but the bad boy has only one piece of metal holding the wheel so there's more leverage on that bolt and it's less protected so that's just an interesting point Toro has two pieces of metal holding each wheel so it's more rigid um so that's just an interesting difference tor went with less wheels but with a stronger mount bad-boy went with more wheels with a weaker mount Toro went with a thicker frame and bad-boy was slightly thinner frame but Toro went with a thinner deck and bad-boy went with a thicker deck and that's a seven gauge steel deck I don't know the quality of steel the greatest steel they use I know that on Toro is like 3,000 and up series they use a seven gauge steel deck but they use the hardened steel they use a very strong steel on the Toro commercial line this is the Toro a residential line this is 11 gauge steel deck but it's a very good steel if they're just mowing their own lawn they don't have to have a seven gauge steel deck and it's going to be a lot lighter on your lawn and leave less ruts and still provide the beautiful cut you want and it's gonna last as long as you would ever need it to but it might not need so much weight right so that's some interesting things and toured it on this but on their bigger commercial ones when you're gonna be using it all the time all year long you might want the thicker seven gauge so they have the thicker seven gauge on there's 3000 up series so it's just interesting Toro went with a slightly thinner deck for the Titan series then bad boy did another difference is Toro has an 8 inch aluminum spindle which is a very big based very nice and aluminum spindle distributes heat well and the bad boy has a smaller I think it's a 6 inch aluminum spindle also so this is a slight difference Toros has a bigger mount means it has better distribution on its deck it's gonna cool it off faster because it's wider and they've been making mowers for almost a hundred years longer than bad-boy so that's something to like they've been cutting grass commercially for 100 years longer imagine if I did anything 100 years longer than you did it I imagine I might be better at it than you there's a misconception - I've been seeing in the you to comment realm that people don't realize that these are made in America too like these are legit made in Minnesota just like these are made in Arkansas so they're equally American say so I just want to end that debate right now whether you buy a Toro or bad boy you're supporting American jobs in his made in America that's awesome come out so in my experience the end of all this I'm trying to be as unbiased as humanly possible and I have mode today and I let other people know with them I have given them both a very fair shake down we tried it on an inch and a half pristine baseball field Thank You coach Jay West Orange high come out and we tried it on a four inch high beautiful st. Augustine lawn with some dips and bumps and then we tried it on the roughest most nasty bush hog golf course and so it kind of I feel like I gave them a holler shakedown I'm owed booed both of them and so I can offer you my advice just from that experience and I think that's what it comes down to is like which one is going to one take care of your lawn best take care of you best take care of your family best and if you rank all these categories they they both cut grass so they both take care of your lawn okay I could move faster so I'd be back inside faster so maybe that takes care of my family a little better and I was more comfortable so that takes care of me better so this is kind of interesting points to make guys I hope I didn't offend too many bad boy people out there you know if you have a bad boy rock on brother just keep on rockin that bad boy maybe your next mower try Toro you might really like it if you're on the fence and you're trying to decide should I buy a bad boy shy buy a Toro you know ask yourself and are you gonna be the one fixing it or are you gonna take it to a dealer make sure you find pick the mower that has the best support and best dealer if you have both good dealers for each type if you have a good bad-boy dealer in your town and a good Toro dealer town out go Toro because they are just way more comfortable and feel nicer and I think and I'm being I know I told you I'm biased but I'm trying to be unbiased in this immediate device I think the Toro is a better built machine though it might not have a thicker deck it just feels really well sorted this was louder it kind of felt like it just was thrown together to kind of be heavy and more powerful on me if you're going down the list of items right zip your deck more and I scalp wheels thicker this thicker that but it just didn't feel better you know I think Toro was very specific in the way they built this and it feels better it feels smoother it cuts nicer and it feels more comfortable and it allows me to go home sooner and view my family and be more comfortable and more patient and kind with my kids or whatever right so sum it all up out by the Toro and I I thought that was one of the good meat but I honestly wanted to give a really fair shake down on both and I'm very thankful I got to drive this bad boar today and I know so much more about both machines now after spinning today just moan everywhere with these bad boys guys thank you for watching please like this channel or like this video if you haven't just takes you one second helps the spiral go further and helps us do better as a youtube channel and if you haven't subscribed please subscribe to our youtube channel we would love to just give you more content like this if you're looking at other machines we have a new video coming out soon that's gonna be comparing the time Qatar versus the bad boy equivalent and if you live in Central Florida and you're looking for a mower shop this is a no brainer guys come to Main Street mower for family run on the youngest son my brother runs it with me my parents are both there we'd love to meet you and be your mower shop these are our unapologetic real selves trying to become your dealer trying to show you some love and if you're a landscaper we got to try to make you the best landscape or you can be because the more successful you are the more successful we are at the end of the day thank you for watching we appreciate you have a good day [Music]

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Length: 25min 19sec (1519 seconds)

Published: Mon May 18 2020