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when a giant photograph of a child appeared looming over the U.S Mexico border near San Diego this fall art aficionados knew right away it was the work of an artist who calls himself Jr you may have never heard of Jr but his giant photographs have appeared in some 140 countries sometimes in fancy art galleries but more often than not pasted illegally on sidewalks and Subways buildings and rooftops plenty of famous artists like Basquiat and Keith Herring started out scrolling their work on the streets often in the dead of night but few have continually displayed their art in public spaces on the scale of Jr this is the photograph that popped up in September along the U.S Mexico border a 64-foot tall picture of a Mexican child named kikito who lives just on the other side of the fence built on scaffolding on Mexican soil there was nothing U.S border Patrol agents could do about it it was classic Jr a person's picture pasted in a public place that made everyone stop and stare Jr has been doing this kind of thing all over the world for the past 14 years he put the faces of Kenyans on rooftops in a Nairobi slum in Cuba where oversized images of Castro and Che are the norm Jr put up enormous pictures of everyday people on New York sidewalks and Istanbul buildings in Tunisia during the Arab Spring and eluded police station Jr has pasted his pictures often without permission and at risk of being arrested outside of Paris in the 90s we met up with Jr in a suburb of Paris in front of a giant mural he'd made out of photographs of more than 700 local residents so that's why I put them in the center we don't know his real name and that's just how J.R wants it public he never takes off his glasses or hat there's a practical reason for it but a little mystery also builds Mystique in the world of art what we do know is that Jr is 35 years old and was born in France the child of Tunisian immigrants I don't think I've ever done an interview for six minutes when I didn't actually know the name of the person I'm interviewing you're not going to tell me your name would it have you know I mean in a lot of country would help me in countries where I got arrested it's important for you to be an anonymous yeah because unfortunately when I travel in a lot of other countries where what I do just paper and glue is not considered as art I get arrested deported put in jail which art in one country is a jailable offense in another exactly Jr has been committing jailable offenses since he was a teenager he says he was repeatedly kicked out of high school and would sneak out at night with friends spray painting graffiti in hard to reach areas graffiti or tagging what was the appeal of that we all have that sense of I want to exist I want to like show that I'm here and I'm present graffiti was saying I am here I am a person exactly I'm here I exist his foray into photography began he says by accident I found a camera in the subway a tiny camera you really just found it yeah and it's funny because a lot of friends tease me yeah right you started your carrier stealing your camera I'm not sure the police would believe that story but I know but you know I some things are true exactly and at some point I realized I was not the best in graffiti you know I'll have the balls to climb any building you want but I would not do the craziest piece but I was with friends who were amazing then I realized wait let me document the journey the Journey of it yeah and so I went from I exist today exist and I realized the power of that once photography got into the picture it was about these other people exist exactly they exist they exist many of Jr's friends in this Paris suburb who he began taking pictures of felt they didn't exist in the eyes of French society most of those who live in this neighborhood or of African or Arab descent first or second generation immigrants and few wealthy parisians ever Venture here all right in 2005 riots broke out in this neighborhood after two kids died while being chased by police the violence spread across France or saw how the young people in the suburb were being portrayed on television and decided to use his camera to tell a different story you would see the riots everyone had hoodies and then so any kids coming from the south would look like a monster to you so that's when I started photographing them from really close and I said I'm going to put your name your age your building number on the posterior and I'm gonna paste it in Paris where they see you as a monster and actually you're gonna play your own caricature why play your own caricature isn't that feeding a stereotype it's actually by fitting it it breaks it and I wanted them to be in control of their own image and you wanted people in Paris who maybe had never been to this neighborhood to understand what the humanity when you look at this face it makes you want to smile by playing the monster they don't look like monster anymore Jr enlarged the pictures and printed them out and with friends began pasting them up illegally at night around Paris most were immediately taken down but the mayor of one Parisian District gave Jr permission to Pace them on a wall outside a museum it was Jr's first official public Art Exhibit he was 23 years old the people from Paris would go in front of those pictures and take a photo of themselves with them and people were trying to find who is who and and get a photo with them where they're supposed to be the monsters that are about to invade Paris so it kind of break the the tension that there was the idea of breaking tension through photography was a revelation to J.R in 2007 with money saved from odd jobs he decided to head to Israel it was after the second intifada and his plan was to paste photographs on the wall separating Palestinians and Israelis in the West Bank so I started making a list of people doing the same job on each side hairdresser Taxi Driver security guard teacher student and then I would go and I would say look I want to paste you playing your own caricature of a handiada sees you but I would paste you with the other Taxi Driver oh yeah sure yeah take my photo but the other guy he's never gonna accept they're really close-minded they're never going to accept them when I go there same thing each person on each side said I'll do it but the person on the other side exactly before he could begin pasting the photographs Jr and his team were arrested by Israeli authorities for not having a permit they were loaded into the back of a wagon and hold off to jail after some questioning they were released and given 15 days to leave the country instead Jr went to the Palestinian side of the wall and began to paste I paced a giant photo of the taxi driver and the second photo of the other Taxi Driver and you know a crowd of people very quickly big crowds and then first guy asked the question but my friend who who is this people I said oh one is israelian one is Palestinian and then you have a big silence on the crowd and I say so who is who and they couldn't even recognize the enemy or their brother on the Israeli side to ensure he wouldn't be arrested again Jr announced the day and time he was going to put up his photographs he says so many reporters and onlookers showed up to watch the authorities decided to just let him go ahead with his project the attention he got from his work in the Middle East and France led to some sales of his photographs which then allowed him to begin to travel further afield over the next few years in Kenya Liberia and Sierra Leone he focused his lens on women Heroes he says who are often treated as second-class Citizens he photographed women's faces and placed them where they could no longer be ignored a Kenyan woman named Elizabeth kamanga asked Jr to paste her picture for all the world to see the woman asked me make my story travel I have my eyes have my my story travel around the world then with someone that they never heard of to hear like sending a bottle in the water her story did travel thousands of miles around the world Jr pasted her eyes onto a container ship called the Magellan that spent months at sea in 2008 he ventured into Providencia the oldest Favela in Rio a slum perched on a hillside controlled by a well-armed gang of drug dealers Jr photographed an elderly woman whose grandson was murdered by a rival gang she agreed to let him paste her image on the stairs leading into the neighborhood did you have permission from any of the gangs if I'm nobody we start pasting the stairs like that great Vibe kids playing you know just pasting on a set after 10 stairs huge like fights and like it starts going from all over [Applause] Jr and his team were caught in crossfire between police and gang members we run and we hide like it's the last day of my life and the next day we came back and we kept on doing the stairs and I think that what made the people in the community realize that okay we're not just here for a minute and that first time when that woman was pasted on the stairs everybody in the community understand what the project was about it was her she was standing there straight and looking strong her photo covered 80 steps and after that other residents allowed Jr to post their faces and Oz on the sides of their homes a display of strength and dignity he says that could be seen from the wealthier neighborhood below that word dignity to you is important you know the people made me realize it's important in every single dignity is something that all of us want all of us no matter what no matter what the background what because the issues people are facing are life and death of course dignity goes to the way we're being seen by the others the way we portray ourselves I think some people here in there are going to say look you're telling me that people you know who don't know where their next meal is coming from or struggling to survive care about art you know what yes if you're wondering how Jr pays for all these projects so were we seems that we found close now has a team of about 16 people working for him out of studios in Paris and New York he doesn't like to give details of how much his projects cost but some of the money comes from the sale of limited edition prints of his work he doesn't accept any sponsorship from corporations but he does have wealthy art patrons who help him out there's amazing people out there there's people that support me there's someone that gave me a building to put my studio that I don't pay rent so I don't have to look for sponsors there are amazing people that I called the shadow philanthropist the people who really want to change Shadow philanthropist yeah and that don't look for return they don't get into philanthropy to get more credit Jr's work May focus on other people but it's also made him a celebrity in his own right he has more than a million followers on Instagram and routinely is seen in the company of rock stars and other artists last month a documentary Jr directed called faces places was nominated for an Oscar Fame has its benefits Jr doesn't always have to sneak around now he's often allowed to display his work so when were you doing the work inside a few months ago on Ellis Island in New York Harbor the the National Park Service let him paste old photographs of immigrants at this abandoned hospital and what does it mean you know I just try to do art in places that it would raise questions rather to give answers Jr is now encouraging others to raise questions by pasting their own photographs here's a website where groups of people with an idea or a cause can send in their pictures he says he'll enlarge and print them and ship them back Jr inspired images have so far been pasted on walls in dozens of countries around the world are you still an artist if you're not taking the photo and you're just printing stuff up and sending it out to people and they're putting it up I don't know I mean I am I'm as much as a printer than a photographer that I'm a wallpaper man you know that's what I do so that's why I think the title artist is the most prestigious title I'll ever get because you know the truth is I Pace Building Mark Bradford is widely considered one of the most important and influential artists in America today his abstract canvases which often deal with complex social and political issues hang in major museums around the world and on the walls of big collectors and some small ones like me Bradford's art may look like paintings but there's hardly any paint on them they're made out of layers and layers of paper which he tears glues power washes and Sands in a style all his own when he began making art in his 30s Bradford couldn't afford expensive paint so he started experimenting with end papers that are used for styling hair he got the idea while working as a hair stylist in his mom's beauty shop in South Los Angeles he was broke struggling and didn't sell his first painting until he was nearly 40. I heard a story that when you sold your first artwork in 2001 you called up your mom do you remember what you said to her I said girl I think I found a way out of the beauty shop [Laughter] girl I think I found a way out of the beauty shop yeah yeah because I had no idea how I was going to stop being a hair stylist because that's really the only thing that I knew I didn't have a problem with being a hair stylist but that's all I knew it's incredible to think that 2001 is when you first sold a work yeah and now I still sell works yeah you sure do I sure do this is the top his first painting sold for five thousand dollars now they can sell for more than 10 million this new one was bought by the Broad Museum in Los Angeles they have nine other Bradfords in their collection one two three it's cold deep blue it's 12 feet high 50 feet long and took a full day to install that's all right that is all right none of those colors you see are paint it's all paper layered on canvas it's abstract but not entirely see those lines that form a grid it's a street map of the Watts neighborhood in Los Angeles the colored balls show where properties were damaged in 1965 after six days of violent civil unrest protests over police brutality and racial inequality we first saw the painting nearly a year ago when Bradford had just started working on it in his studio in South Los Angeles he'd already met he made the map of Watts out of bathroom caulking the following month when we stopped by again he'd laid down 14 layers of colored paper and covered it all up with a layer of black so there's a map under Neath here yes of Watts all these little points are what was looted what was destroyed so I kind of start from a map and then on top of it I think I lay art history and my imagination all three Bradford uses household tools to make his paintings he likes to buy everything at Home Depot my motto is if Home Depot didn't have it Mark Bradford didn't use it that's it to this day building up the layers of paper on the canvas is just the beginning of his process he then starts to peel cut and sand them down which can take months it's like an archaeological date it is like an archaeological dig it's like history I'm creating my own archaeological or psycho psychological digs sometimes when I'm digging on my own painting I'm asking myself well exactly what are you digging for where are you where do you want to go child oh see look look at that see now see that I like a lot of people get an abstract painting and think it squiggles it's torn paper I don't understand it yeah that's true but for me uh those squiggles and torn paper gives me a space to kind of unpack things like the Watts Riots I'm grappling with how I feel about that subject and that material I do grapple with things I grapple with things personally and you know racially and politically what does it mean to be me Mark Bradford has been grappling with that question in his art for the last 18 years for making paintings out of Street posters like those offering predatory loans and low-income neighborhoods to creating works that address HIV AIDS racism and the complexity of American History he's 57 years old now and it's six foot eight stands out in a crowd he still lives in South Los Angeles where he grew up when he was eight he says he began to get bullied by neighborhood kids that was the first time I felt different that was the first time I was aware of my sensitivity that's the first time someone said oh you're you you you're a I definitely knew that I had to learn to navigate in a more cautious way so that I could survive I just never had a problem being me so even though people they were calling your it didn't make you want to try to change yourself not really no not really I just didn't want to get my ass whooped I was raised by his mother Janice Banks who owned her own beauty salon that's where Bradford would head every day after school I knew that I had to find a way to get across the schoolyard I knew that my mother was always going to be there once I got across the school yeah and maybe maybe I was in the hair salon every day watching women get across the schoolyard you know I would hear their stories I would watch them go through and I just thought if they can do it I most certainly can do it Mark Bradford started working in the salon as a teenager eventually becoming a hair stylist it was a safe place where he could be himself but that feeling disappeared in 1981 when his friends began dying from AIDS I knew a storm was coming I knew that in the gut I knew that and people were just dying that's what it felt like to me at 18 years old I just was thinking how are we going to make it through did you think you would make it through no no I didn't think I'd make it through thinking he didn't have a future he didn't plan for one but when he was nearly 30 he took art classes at a junior college and he says it clicked there was the reading and learning about different Scholars and feminism and deconstructing modernism and all the I just oh man this is I'm really into this I'm exactly sure what it is but I'm it just yeah and you'd still work at the hair salon every day and so you'd be studying while at the Harrison oh absolutely I put the book in their lap and say go read that back to me he won a scholarship to the California Institute of the Arts but struggled to make money as an artist when he was 39 he finally had a breakthrough I was working on the head working on a head working on a head working on the beauty salon beauty salon yeah because I was still working the hair salon and I told you that I just didn't know that terminology I was hooking it up okay right late at night I was tired as hell too and um it's just end papers fell on the floor and I looked down and said oh they're translucent oh oh I could use these end papers are small rectangular tissues used to make permanent waves in Hair Bradford began burning the paper's edges and lining them up into grids he glued onto bed sheets I knew I was onto something I knew this was bridging this material came from a site outside of the paint store I think early on I was trying to weave these two sides of who I was together the art world and the sights that I had come from the life that I had led I didn't want to leave any of it I didn't want to edit out anything private collectors began snapping up his and paper paintings and his career took off he's now a celebrity in the art world and his Gallery openings are star-studded events at the latest one in Los Angeles Beyonce and Jay-Z who owned several Bradford's stopped in the ten paintings in this exhibition sold out before the gallery doors opened nicest is partner more than 20 years Alan de Castro are committed to using Contemporary Art and their own money to revitalize the neighborhood Bradford grew up in in 2014 they opened Arden practice with Eileen Harris Norton the first collector to buy Bradford's work it's a non-profit complex of buildings that includes a gallery lecture spaces and his mother's old beauty salon this is the last hair salon that my mom worked in and then I took it over from her it was in the 90s it was called foxy hair they turned foxy hair into a center for young adults transitioning out of foster care I would run down the block in here and buy myself whatever I needed to put back on the hair but we were surprised to learn that Mark Bradford still Styles hair he does it for some of his former clients from the beauty shop who are also among his closest friends when you look around does his art make sense to you it does it's like a map I mean I look at it it's beautiful but I don't really get it get it he gave me um something from his Studio a long time ago and I put it in my garage this is before he got like popular on this and yeah and it's and it's all torn up and this guy was like you know you have something like a Mona Lisa I'm like for real no y'all wrong for that I don't see it no you don't see it I don't but I like how you give a little inside of like what's going on in our community I know that much about your art so that much I really like Bradford's latest work continues to focus on difficult and controversial issues this painting which is prominently displayed in the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is called 150 portrait tone and was made in response to the 2016 fatal police shooting of philando Castile during a traffic stop in Minnesota he was trying to get out his eye ID in his wallet out his um pocket and he let the officer know castile's girlfriend Diamond Reynolds live streamed the incident Bradford was so haunted by her words he made them into this painting please don't tell me this Lord please Jesus don't tell me that he's gone but it's really the conversation that his girlfriend is having with multiple people which I was fascinated by why were you fascinated about it how composed she was she was having a conversation with her daughter in the back seat with philando who was passing away with God with us Facebook and with the policeman all simultaneously it was Visual and textual and heartbreaking and heroic and strong all at the same time in another major new work Bradford turned his gaze to the Civil War it's called Pickett's Charge and it's a reimagining of a pivotal Union victory at the Battle of Gettysburg it was commissioned by the smithsonian's hirshhorn museum in Washington D.C Bradford used as his starting point blown up photos of a 19th century panoramic painting of Pickett's Charge a painting which offers a romanticized view of the Confederacy he then added layers of paper and cords over it then carefully gouged shredded and ripped it apart they almost feel like lacerations almost scarring that's what those feel like and a little bit like bullet wounds like it really punctures it's a 360 degree painting that raises many questions in Bradford's mind particularly about how we look at history it's looking at it through a different lens yes that's the feeling that I wanted you to have that history was laying on top of it and gouging into it erasing it bits of it showing it's kind of me kind of revising it so is this a more accurate representation of History I don't really believe history is ever fully accurate it's acknowledging that it's acknowledging the gaps right the things we don't know so many people have come to see Pickett's Charge the hirshhorn has extended the exhibition for three more years Bradford is already working on new paintings for shows in China London and New York do you worry about the vagaries of the art world what is popular today 20 years from now oh no no no no I wouldn't have no I have never I mean art has value because people believe it has value no I think art has value because it has value it's not I'm not going to wait for somebody else to tell them my work has value I certainly wasn't going to wait on people to tell me I had value I'd probably still be waiting I just it has value because I think it has value and then if other people get on the value you know Mark Bradford value train great over the years we've done stories on all sorts of people but to our knowledge we have never done one on a late middle-aged man who dresses in biker Gear with visible tattoos in sterling silver skull rings and certainly not one who also happens to be fluent in French and advanced mathematics no Peter Marino is one of a kind if you follow the worlds of art architecture and high fashion you probably know he is a serious player in all of them a taste maker for some of the richest most sophisticated people in the world many of whom would agree mourinho's appearance is actually one of the least interesting things about him at first glance you might mistake him for the bouncer at a leather bar a professional wrestler or the front man for a Village People tribute band but here in Paris at a reception for the B and all one of the oldest art and antique fairs in the world Hi how are you madam Peter Moreno is instantly recognized oh thank you thank you madam and actively courted by people you might think would run the other way but behind the threatening keep your distance facade explicate too isn't amusing ironic highly accomplished artist and businessman with a sensitive soul his talents are demonstrated in the beauty and breadth of his design work and architecture and contradict his carefully considered public image of a beast on a motorcycle people make first judgments about people based on their appearance there's an old saying the clothes make the man how about the older statement don't judge a book by its cover but you want people to judge you by this look this is your look absolutely not it's a decoy a decoy sure would you think you're talking to a bright architect looking at a guy like me you still know calculus and trig and all of that stuff had to had to get my license and you got to keep your license up to date you have to take 18 credits a year that's the hardest part you got to keep taking courses dude they don't let you forget it yeah the Arts and fashion worlds have always had a high tolerance for eccentricity take Tom Wolf in his white suits Carl lagerfeld's dark glasses and fingerless gloves and Lady Gaga there is no question that mourinho's signature look has made him one of a handful of living Architects actually recognized by the media one of your good friends said that she'd like the shock value like you'd like the fact that people say what's with him I like boy the fact that I like to think out of the box Thinking Out of the Box goes along with dressing out of the box and living out of the box if you want to come up with a really original design idea and you want to capture a whole new design Direction perhaps the best way to arrive at that is not by acting and thinking and doing like everybody else that's all if the get up was simply a publicity gimmick barino would have disappeared decades ago his work would not be regularly featured in architectural digest and other glossy magazines and the firm that bears his name would not be occupying two floors in Sixteen thousand square feet of some of the most expensive office space in New York which is furnished with Museum quality artwork all for mourinho's private collection paintings and sculpture Modern Art and Antiquities all juxtaposed in Perfect Harmony this is quite a room yeah quite a reception area what is this piece this is 2003 and Zone kefir and this uh this is gundaran third Century A.D Gandara yeah it's from Gandara and it's the region just on the Silk Road where the Chinese culture and the Indian culture just met with the Greek cultures art is it the center of mourinho's universe and his knowledge of it is encyclopedic he not only collects it he curates it and commissions it for his projects it covers nearly every inch of wall space and is here he says not to impress his clients but to inspire the staff of 150 designers and Architects with whom he turns out between 50 and 100 projects a year design wise I look at everything if I don't personally design it I'll review it I'm the kind of creative director of The Firm you're a bit of a control freak you'd have to ask the staff for that bordering on the tyrannical you'd have to confirm that with the staff do you see yourself as a tyrannical boss no I only care about the work and I am not tyrannical personally in any way shape or form but I am absolutely passionate about the quality of the work and so are the clients that can afford him who mostly come from the world's wealthiest 100th of one percent encompassing the glitterati and the emirati this is a residential project building on the top of Los Angeles it's a large site assembled from over seven homes and this is in construction and what is this structure this is for the Subterranean parking and this is a private home this is a private home it's a and you can you tell us anything about the owner no it's merino's default answer he won't comment about his clients which have reportedly included the likes of multi-billionaires David Geffen and David Koch as well as Gisele Bundchen and Tom Brady this home in Milan we're told was done for Giorgio Armani I like my clients all of my clients say beauty you're talented but your best virtue is your discretion they really don't want to be talked about this Hamptons beach house was designed for a young hedge fund manager and his wife in this ski chalet in Lebanon with ocean views for a Swiss Banker but for every Private Client Mourinho won't speak about somewhere in the world he is unveiling a project that is the Talk of the Town like Boone the shop a multi-brand luxury shopping center that takes up two downtown blocks in Seoul South Korea no expense was spared it's old white Greek marble these are trapezoids like they fell to space it's an interesting building because the entire inside is rough concrete he says it was built for the family that controls Samsung it's fair to say you work with some of the richest people in the world right yes do they need to be treated a different way if they need to be treated a different way no one's told me I remember when I was meeting certain um royal families if I had to behave a certain way like you better tell me what I was supposed to say until I went the way you look it doesn't really matter just be yourself I went okay okay those Partnerships can produce some unusual Optics we watched this meeting with Sydney toledano the CEO of Christian Dior who is one of mourinho's biggest clients and biggest fans they have collaborated on dozens of Dior boutiques all over the world polidano is used to working with big Egos and difficult people but says Mourinho is not one of them I never had the impression that it was complicated because you always find the solution and he's very professionals how important is it your business or how important has he been to your business being key don't tell him he understands Dior he understand your toledano sees mourinho's look as an artistic presentation of his personality he doesn't even mind the fact that Mourinho also works for most of his competitors this is a new building we'll be building for Chanel so you've got Chanel up here you've got uh Louis Vuitton Louis Vuitton who else Dior bublo worldwide we do Bulgari we're opening a new one in London in December Fendi if you just saw the Fendi on 57th in Madison for decades Mourinho has been the architective choice for nearly all of the top fashion designers in luxury Brands and is widely credited with reimagining the use of retail space moving away from boxy department stores and into elegant boutiques his work lines the most conspicuous Avenues and boulevards of the world it's a third of his business every store is unique and each one distills the essence and the look of the company it was built for a sense of travel and luxury for Louis Vuitton the Timeless classic look for Chanel how did you get them to all come to you it's the old questions they had why do they all go to you Steve would you go to a knee doctor who had done two knee operations if you need an operation of one who had done 300 successfully who would you go to that's why they come to me Moreno's work ethic and personality are rooted in Queens the New York neighborhood where he was born 67 years ago the only son in the middle class Italian family in high school he excelled in art and graduated from Cornell University in 1971 with a degree in architecture he learned the trade from the very best serving apprenticeships with impa in Skidmore Owings and Merrell but he picked up the ways of the wealthy and the value of celebrity from another Master artist Andy Warhol who always considered business one of the finer forms of art he certainly knew how to get attention the blonde wig dude that was so good the blonde wig it's pretty hard to beat Mourinho did some early work for Warhol and hung out at his New York studio called the factory which was a magnet for music and movie stars socialites and royalty Bob colocello was the editor of warhol's interview magazine when Mourinho first walked through the door and what was he like um he had little bow ties and he was very properly dressed you know when he was funny he was talented you could see that right away coliccello now a contributing editor at Vanity Fair magazine and Isabel ratazzi the former model and longtime friend of Mourinho think he has changed very little from those ironic Factory days of Campbell Soup cans and pop art parodies of Fame Peter fed right into that I mean we were all on the same sort of wavelength you know tongue and cheek tongue-in-cheek a lot of what we were doing was very tongue-in-cheek and Peter ivick is still very tagotchy totally he's enjoying Ryan have fun at other people's expenses sometimes I think Peter deep down more than anything is an artist he has an incredible sense of Aesthetics he loves Beauty and anything in art and music foreign it's on display at mourinho's 12-acre estate where every summer there is a lavish party for friends to introduce young and up-and-coming classical musicians it's hosted by Peter and Jane Trapnell his waspy wife of 33 years a charming and accomplished costume designer who friends say is an essential part of the equation she's too smart to be interviewed but you've been married a long time 33 years that's great don't look like the perfect couple if you know what I mean it's a good marriage because each of us is what we are allows the other one to be themself and appreciates each other for the right reason you know it's rare that you'll find two people who don't try to change the other person and I'll let everyone be what they are what's this the only other constant in mourinho's life as you may have guessed are motorcycles his latest prominently displayed on the project board this is my Super Duke KTM 1290. it's very fast you're supposed to say does Jane sit on the back absolutely not she's in the back of a car and driver and she with the two dogs Mourinho finds cars claustrophobic he has a half a dozen bikes he's ridden them all over the country and regularly uses them to commute between New York and his home on Long Island it's his release and the core of his identity alone on the road where he can take in the air and the light and the space all part of living life outside the box

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Length: 40min 39sec (2439 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 01 2023