Archery | Using the Sight

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Thanks for the info. Great video. One question: you mention that if you set the sight too low, you could shoot off the aperture - so what happens if you're shooting long distance with a low-poundage bow and the sight needs to be that low? How do you avoid this problem?

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/reddRad 📅︎︎ Mar 27 2016 🗫︎ replies

Great timing NUSensei! Thanks for covering this aspect.

My beginners class just started using the entry level sight on our club bows (a mix of Samick Polaris & Core Pulse) on Friday during our second session, so although we have a really good coach, it's nice to have another clear demonstration/explanation to reinforce what I learnt.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/kyoukoku 📅︎︎ Mar 27 2016 🗫︎ replies

I was wondering, about the sight picture, I cannot get any of my shots to stop pulling right sighting around the string. I started sighting between the riser and the string last club session, and this seemed to correct the issue. This meant that my sight picture was the string touching the left hand side of my sight in my vision. It seemed to work for me. Just wondering if there's any real issues with this?

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/Viz0r 📅︎︎ Mar 28 2016 🗫︎ replies

You mention the "sight-string-riser" picture. My coach also talked about that. My issue is, I don't seem to see a string. I see a blurred sight and riser, but not a string..? Also, I'm in this stage where when aiming with both eyes open, I used to see two sights and being right eye dominant would aim with the left sight picture. However, I am also starting to only see one sight sometimes I feel like when aiming even though both eyes are open? Maybe this is affecting my string picture?

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/cisbrane 📅︎︎ Mar 28 2016 🗫︎ replies
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[Shhhthunk] Hey guys this is NUSensei If you are getting into archery, and you're looking at the freestyle or Olympic style recurve then you will have to get familiar with this. This is the sight, and it's the defining feature of your classification. Now using the sight may seem very obvious, but you will come across many questions which you never thought you had. Firstly let's go through the parts of the sight. The one I'm using is a Shibuya Ultima which is the very top end of recurve sights, although all sights share common features and functions. The sight consists of a long horizontal bar attached to a vertical bar that typically has the sight markings and a removable sight block. The sight block has an aperture. Normally it looks like a plain iron sight with the red contrasting dot painted on. I've actually replaced mine with a larger aftermarket aperture, in this case the Titan Scope. It's important to note that rules for recurve shooters forbid the use of magnified lenses so this is just a plain zero power piece of glass. The sight block has methods to change its elevation and windage. The exact method depends on the model. Some use micro adjustable wheels, others require loosening screws and turning by hand. The sight is mounted onto this block, which must first be screwed onto the riser. The bar is inserted into this block and secured by a large screw. Now the most common question I get about using the sight is: "How far do I set the bar?" Basically, the closer the sight the bigger the adjustments are. This is because the site is closer to your eye so each adjustment will have a bigger effect on target. If you move the site further out, adjustments will be finer due to the increased gap. This allows for more precise adjustments especially when shooting at long-range targets. This vertical bar can also be adjusted. Most sights have it screwed on from behind so removing these screws will allow you to move the entire bar up or down. This is useful if you need sight settings for close distances or very long distances. There is one side effect to adjusting your sight distance. The closer it is the larger the sight will be in front of your eye. This is usually not a factor when deciding how far to place it, but it may be worth noting that, at certain distances, the sight may obstruct the target. Generally speaking, most archers will prefer to keep their sight further out. This is because, especially at longer distances, even the most minute of adjustments will make a big difference on target. So having the sight further out will give the archer more control over their micro adjustments. Of course you can set which ever notch you want, and you may find that you have different sight settings for different distances at different notches. It's essential that you record your sight setting and your notch setting so that you have the same reference point each time. Speaking of sight settings, what you will find on your vertical bar are numerical references. This is what you write down for your sight settings. Now these numbers don't actually refer to specific distances. They're simply arbitrary units for you to write that when you do get out and do your sight setting. So for example, at 30 meters you might be shooting 1.5, at 50 meters it might be a 3.0, and so on. Alternatively some archers prefer to print out or write out a sight tape which they stick onto the sight bar which indicates which level is which distance. By the way, do remember that your sight is directly over the arrow. If you do set the sight too low you can shoot it off. I have seen it happen. Now that we've covered how the sight works let's talk about how to actually use one. The most important thing to keep in mind is that the sight should not be the focal point. You should be looking at the target, and the sight should be a blur. This gives you an overlay and a reference point. The second reference you need is your string. You should see the string somewhere in the side of your vision. This forms a rear sight allowing you to align it with the site ring. This specific spot varies between archers. Some archers keep it to the side of the ring, others align it with the inside of the riser. Most importantly the sight picture must be consistent. So basically, don't treat the sight like a telescopic sight you're aiming through. It's only a reference point, and you have to remember that to get the arrow on target you need to focus on the rest of the shot process. One important thing to remember for beginners, is that you have to adjust based on your groupings and not an individual arrow. Now you might see at a professional level that archers will make really fine adjustments every single shot. This is because they're trained to the point where their form is perfectly consistent. So they know they are doing the right thing which means that sight adjustment means something. If you're beginning and you make adjustments every single arrow you're not actually understanding what causes the arrow to go off. It isn't always the sight that is wrong, and most of the time it's you. So, as a beginner, practicing, use the groupings as an indicator, but don't adjust for single arrows. Focus on getting your form right, and the arrows will start coming into place, and only then will sight adjustments mean something. There's one more thing you should remember about using the sight. It's "follow the arrow." This rule is used to remind you of how to adjust your sight in order to get your arrows on target. In this example, all my arrows are going too low. To compensate for this I need to move my sight down. This will cause me to lift my bow higher. If my shots are too high I put my sight up, which brings my bow down. If my arrows are to the left I wind my sight to the left and vice versa for the right. In this demonstration I'm going to shoot three arrows to establish my grouping and adjust my sight from there. Here I can see that my grouping is slightly high. By following the rule of chasing the arrow I need to move my sight up. I will now shoot another set of arrows. I'm in the center, however, my elevation is still a little low, so i'm going to make one more micro adjustment. Now my grouping is dead center. Even at very short distances small adjustments make a difference. Now it's one thing to get your sights on target for close practice distance, however, if you are shooting at long distance competitions. you will need to know how to sight your bow at different ranges. For this we need to do a walk back. To do this properly and efficiently, start at a distance that you know you are able to hit the target from. I'm going to start at 20 meters and shoot a group. I currently don't have a target pinned up, but I am aiming at this cardboard piece, and my arrows are pretty much on target. I now need to take note of my sight position and record it on a notepad or on my phone. With that done I can now step back to 30 meters. I estimate my sight drop and make the alteration and shoot a group. This time it's a little too high and a bit to the right. My adjustment is to lift the sight and move the sight to the right. Now I'll shoot another group to verify my settings. I made one bad shot but the others are on target, so this is good enough. I then walk back to each successive distance: 40 meters, 50 meters, 60 meters. Even 70 if I have to. That way I have accurate sight settings for all the distances I will need to shoot. Once you get your sight settings down you have something to work with. Now these sight settings won't be perfect. Things will change. Maybe the weather conditions will be different on the day. It might be warmer, therefore air rises, therefore the arrows will carry further. Maybe there's more cross wind. Whatever the case you have something to base your sight settings on rather than going in blind. There are a couple of tips that I have using the sight. First is you need to have confidence in your sight. If you're not sure where your sight is pointing, and you have to aim off all the time then it kind of defeats the purpose of having a sight. Measure your sight settings as accurate as possible and make meaningful adjustments. Secondly, don't become too fixated on the sight. The site is only a reference point, and you may start developing target panic because you become too obsessed with getting the sight on target. Don't forget the rest of the shot process. Where to aim, and how to get it there, are different things, and if you're not shooting well then it doesn't really matter where you aim. Anyway I hope this video was helpful. Thank you for watching. This is NUSensei, and i'll see you next time.
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Length: 10min 56sec (656 seconds)
Published: Sun Mar 27 2016
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