Arbor Press Dental Work!

[Music] hey you thought I forgot didn't you come on ad ad minute you didn't think I'd remember happy Arbor Day everyone in celebration I broke out my Arbor press and by broke out I mean finally picked it up off the floor fun fact do you know why these are called Arbor presses this thing has spent most of its life with me being dragged to and fro picked up put down tripped over cursed at you name it all because I couldn't make time to find a space for it well today's the day this is a 2-ton Arbor press standard import quality low cost really nothing special in fact when I first got it first impression it looked to me like it was 80% paint and maybe 20% cast iron I didn't have High Hopes but it's been holding up to some abuse I'm impressed I'd like to make a stand for it and then we'll go through and make all the usual mods a person might make to their Arbor press the skip tooth modification add some features for Quick Change tooling maybe make some quick change tooling just to try it out nothing revolutionary here but it's got to get done like I said today's the day Arbor Day [Music] [Music] having to wire brush Rusty steel is the worst that's coming from a guy who's gotten socks for Christmas I'm going to go do this outside that was only like 10 square inches and all of me and my shop are [Music] orange [Music] is [Music] [Music] [Music] is if you look real close you might notice there is something different here I finished welding it up took it outside and gave it the what for with a rattle can kind of like my insurance now it seemed adequate have a closer look though and the coverage ain't great I added a couple of tabs to to the top completely unnecessary probably but they just fit inside the casting walls like the walls of the arbor press drop in right here there aren't really any twisting loads on an arbor press but you never know these are meant to help keep the arbor press from sort of falling off this plate I've seen presses shift that's usually when you've got them just thrown on a bench with a couple of C clamps you're trying to see what's going on and kind of pulling a little bit sideways I don't think this should happen here but they were easy enough to add I drill some 8in vent holes right through the plate in the welded nuts probably not necessary but avoids trapped air and unexpected fart sounds when you tighten your bolts and that's about it for the stand which is probably for the best since this video isn't about press stands let's turn our attention back to the arbor presses before we get into doing irreparable damage allow me a moment to wax my back poetic why would anyone want a mechanical press like this when you can buy or make say a hydraulic press for not that much more surely 10 or 15 Tons is better than two right well believe it or not there are times when a mechanical press like this makes more sense well maybe not like this exactly maybe treat yourself to something a little bit better hear me now and believe me later there are times when feel and feedback like while you're doing what you need to do Trump tonnage I mean granted you need the tonnage that you need to get the job done but within the capacity of the press there are often times situations where it's good to sort of feel what's going on contrived example number one pressing a bushing in place or a dow for that matter could you do it with a hammer probably I've done that once or twice myself but a hammer might mushroom your PIN or your bushing in this case take a small bearing for example you really don't want to be smacking those with a hammer on a hydraulic press it's very easy to press apart in crooked if it starts sort of a little bit skewed not so much that you could see it but just a little bit skewed you'd feel that in an arbor press but a hydraulic press will just Hulk smash it until it's seated crooked and then what an arbor press is surprisingly handy at straightening things out again it's sort of like that feel and feedback last time I dragged it out in fact was to take a bit of a Bend out of that weird kitchen knife we sharpened a few videos ago that came out of heat treat with a bit of a curve I could have maybe done that in my hydraulic press but you'd have no feedback on how much force you were really applying and if you got one of those cheap hand pump ones like I do on a big Ram well it's tiring moving that thing up and down maybe 20 times to massage a Bend out of something you can do some light metal forming with these make some dyes or some punches slip in some sheet metal or what have you and nudge it the shape okay I have no idea what that is but you get the lots of folks use these for punching holes like in leather or rubber sheeting forming eyelets that sort of thing though it certainly is more than capable of punching holes in metal I've got one of these little one ton hand presses I use this mostly for making washers until I got a nice little shim punch set but this will knock some pretty clean holes in thin sheet metal way better than trying to drill say a/4 in hole in 20 thou sheet stock but unless you get a really good one which this one is not I don't know I found that this can be a little bit fiddly you got to get the upper and lower dyes to line up right and then you're putting a lot of force on some sometimes really thin sheet metal I don't know it can get a little ugly it's convenient but not the best if all goes well I'd like to adapt to these dieses to use on this Arbor press the one thing you really want to look out for on a cheap no-name Arbor press like this one especially is how straight the ram is or perpendicular I should say you want this Ram coming down nice and square to the top of that Anvil if it's crooked it sort of defeats the whole purpose this one I haven't really tested out yet it's not even tightened up if you're going to buy this in a store walk over to the aisles where they sell the squares first and just give it the once over you may have to tighten the ram up just a little bit I don't think I've ever come across one that's been severely out of square I assume they machine all of the postc casting operations sort of in one setup but you never know better safe than sorry now I got this one mail order so I couldn't really check it out ahead of time but I wasn't too worried as I have the resources to sort of beat it into submission since you brought it up let me show you what you might expect from a cheap eBay press like this one I don't know if you get a sense of just how poor the casting is on this and there's a lot of Bondo hopefully you can tell that texture difference on camera here you can see the cast iron through the paint and here you see some nice big smooth spots maybe that's just where they ground some bad flash off but I'm willing to bet this thing is probably full of voids that have been filled and then painted somewhere out there there's a factory making decent Arbor press every now and again one or two come off the line that really should just be thrown away or melted down and recast but that costs money and spending money makes them sad so they dress them up a little bit and sell them for a bargain on eBay or Harbor Freight or where have you this thing said 2 ton on the box I fear there's a nonzero chance that for this Harbor press if I push it to its two ton rating it could just split in two somewhere suddenly and fall on my foot but therein lies the excitement of this hobby does it not as is tradition when you first get your Arbor press and of course to ensure a Bountiful Harvest this year the first thing we'll want to do is sacrifice a couple of teeth these teeth back here let's talk about why we're going to do what we're about to do like I said first it's to appease the gods and second since this is nothing more than a rack and pinion the location of our pinion this thing up here the rotational position of that and hence the handle since the handle is connected right to that that sort of depends on where the rack is the position of this rack up and down is tied one to one to the position of the handle now that sometimes presents a problem it often presents a problem depending on how tall the thing is we want to Arbor smash our handle might end up in an unfortunate position like maybe here for example let's say we want to smash these two V blocks into one single V block something you do all the time with an arbor press so here because of the height of those V blocks our handle is now sticking straight up into the air that's going to be hard to really put some leverage on it's sort of an awkward position to be able to exert force and if this Arbor press isn't tied down really tight we're just going to topple the whole thing on top of us ideally we'd always want the handle to be sort of pointing straight towards us horizontal so we can really Reef on it now if you're smarter than me and odds are pretty good you are you'd have bought a better Arbor press where this problem has already been solved they make presses like these with a ratcheting handle so you can adjust the position of the handle right out of the box in fact some people like to modify these with an actual ratchet handle like one of these everybody's got one of these right you just throw the old handle away weld an old socket on the end and use your ratchet as a handle you can adjust it anywhere you like in dependent of where the ram ends up unfortunately I don't trust any of my ratchet handles to two tons so we're going to do the dollar store version of a ratchetting rack and pinion so this is really all that's going on inside this pinion that our handle is attached to pushes the rack up and down here's just a little dramatic reenactment for you of what's going on ins side going just by the taste that looks like a pitch circle of maybe I don't know an inch and a half so 3/4 in radius and this handle it's about 16 in we're losing a little bit because of the diameter of this thing let's call it 14 in that means we have a ratio of 3/4 of an inch to 14 on this specific press if we math a little backwards to get two tons on the business end of this Ram which now that I say that out loud I'm not sure if that's metric tons which would be 2200 lb or American tons which would be 2,000 lb yeah let's say 2,000 just for a round number 2,000 divided by our leverage of 3/4 to 14 18 to 1 that's 2,000 / 18 that's about 110 lb to get 2 tons on the smashy end of this Ram I have to pull the handle with 110 lb on the lever end or about twice my body weight I'm gonna take out these two teeth knock them right off about there for a minute I debated taking that one off and some material here I think that would give me one more tooth of sort of rack lift quarter inch or whatever that base width is but now I'm not so sure I think I only gain like a tooth tip now I'm thinking so much pain isn't worth so little gain so I'll just take these two off if you've never seen this intervention before or not exactly sure how this is going to work don't sweat it's going to be super obvious once we get this thing together for now that's it nothing to do but to do it hey wait just one minute while we're at it since I've got it broken down I'm going to put a hole down in the end of this Ram to accept some tooling potentially accept some tooling it's sticking out a little further than I'd like but it won't fit through my spindle boore not the end of the world the location isn't very critical at all and this is still probably miles better than trying to do it freehand with a quarless drill or trying to set something weird up in the drill Dr press it's way too early in the day to be breaking out dial indicators so I'm just using a lathe tool as a reference as long as that Gap is sort of consistent we'll be close enough to Center Line that end up being a halfin hole seemed good as size as any also cleaned up the unac that was surprisingly out of square surprisingly in air quotes I'm going to drill and tap the side to accept a small set screw something to retain that tooling that seems way too fast all right settle down let's see if this thing do what we think it's going to does my apologies for the morning voice I thought it had sound sexy but instead it sounds like I got an argument with the wife and spent the night on the couch if memory serves this pinion goes in first I'm just going to give the bors a little taste of some high press Molly grease is that redundant I think all Molly grease might be hyp I'm going easy with this stuff it doesn't take much and the last thing I want to do is push my luck and end up on the couch again Freudian slip I meant to say we don't want so much in there that it squeezes out and gets all over the rack that'd be messy and just attract a ton of dirt this thing does have what appear to be maybe oil holes on the top of those BS maybe those were meant to be tapped and have grease fittings installed I don't know grease doesn't feel right or zerk fitting doesn't feel right for this kind of application you know a few drops of maybe whey oil once or every couple of months depending how much you use this thing probably be fine I just went with a little bit of grease in there it's one last thing to have to remember there's a little retaining ring on this side underneath the cap with sort of the Gib adjusting screws got this little wear plate this is what the screws are actually pushing against spreads those little bolt loads out more even pressure across the face of that RAM and you're not sort of grinding grooves in it as you're moving it up and down not exactly sure how I keep this in space though just that pocket maybe I don't like that very much I'm just going to glue that on with a little Grease as much as I said I didn't want grease on this Ram I'm not exactly sure how to hold this while I put it together so we've got two screws on the front that push up against that plate we're going to use those to take as much sort of Wiggle out of this rack as possible this sort of jam nut type adjustment is always a little bit tricky doesn't take much to bind the thing and you kind of want to check it through whole range see there it's loose and there it's tight I'm going to back it off just a little bit I mean we're not adjusting a milling machine here but still and of course you want to be careful to hold your adjustment bolt while you tighten that jam nut so you're not moving it out of the position that you want and same thing on the sides gets a little tight at the top but I think I'm just going to leave it like that for now see how it sort of runs in and then readjusts these still a little snug at the top but that seems all right let's see if the little ratcheting thing works and it does not that was unexpected I push this too much should I have Tak taking three teeth off that rack oh jeez I have a set screw in the side that thing right there it's hitting the bottom and keeping the rack from coming all the way up there we go I'll be honest I panicked there a minute wow I think my morning voice might have went away shock to the system like jumping in a tub of ice water I'm sure you all realize how this works now but just to sort of drive it home demonstrate if you will say we're pressing this one two three block we put it in there and the handle ends up at some unfortunate angle I can't really get leverage on this thing I should be able to run this to the top that is a much better position to be in to be reefing on your parts see what one more does oh yeah that's golden that's perfect right there otherwise we would have had to play games past pack in this part up with different thicknesses to get this handle where we wanted it or we could have bought a ratcheting Arbor press either way I can now make my own Jackhammer sound effects I could think of absolutely no better way to end this video than me embarrassing myself in public by drilling my anchors out of Plum but I have have one or two more things to add even though obviously I drilled crooked on purpose it's like skew nailing but with anchors they're stronger that way maybe a bit of a strong word but I made some tooling for the arbor press these in particular are just like caps anvils maybe just something to really fill that hole that you drilled in the end of the Ram one of these is steel the other is aluminum a brass one might have been nice this this is just an extra one that I could weld a tool onto should the KNE arise I think of it is sort of like an extra soft jaw sort of like this one same steel Anvil same base but I welded a flat blade on there might be good to help sharpen some small inside bends or you know cut square mortises and Solid Steel stock scrape some head gaskets off horizontal engines that sort of thing you never know as you might have guessed these just slip right in and you tighten the set screw no need to go overboard these anvils are made in such a way that all of the smashy force goes through this shoulder the stem is a little bit short one of the last things you probably want to do is permanently deform like mushroom the top of this stem and rivet the Anvil into the RAM for the same reason there's a little relief groove cut where the set screw comes in again set screw doesn't need to be super tight it's not doing any work at all but you wouldn't want to flare out or upset material there that keeps this tool from coming back out this on the other other hand is hardened tool steel I turned it hardened and tempered it this is a 3/16 Punch or drift maybe I intended to make a whole set of these when I realized I could just use Dow pins this would save a US ton of tool steel just a steel base the Anvil with an e/ in pin in this case lock tight it in place now if that looks crooked first good eye second it is a little bit I got a little optimistic tried to break some chain with it this stuff here it actually seemed to going pretty well I think it was almost about to break through when the chain sort of tipped on me came out from underneath and bent the punch this chain on my bench is lying flat and is nice and stable but on the arbor press it's floating 3 in high the only thing touching on the table is one link so the whole chain can sort of roll pretty easy not All Is Lost though I did learn something I learned I should buy better quality Dow pins finally this one is a clever idea I can't take credit for it's just a little extension that lets you quickly install tooling sockets very convenient for installing things like bearings and saves me from making an 11/16 tool anything in this case that takes a/ in socket you could potentially Bend in your Arbor press now I may remake this it does have sort of the features for the set screw I was going to weld a washer on here again cuz I don't want this small end taking all the load in fact you'd want to you know set this so the socket hasn't really completely snapped over like you want the shoulders of the socket to take all that Ram Force so the shoulder should just be right where the socket snaps over that detent so you're not pushing with the bottom of the extension in practice does that matter I don't know probably not I would feel better about it though here let me show this to you in case it doesn't make sense now I could just pop that socket off put on something of a different size that might actually be the same size all right bad example but you get the idea you can get clever you know anything you have that could serve as tooling that hopefully won't break is fair game look at that I could press stuff in at an angle and something I'm really looking forward to is finally being able to Bro small keyways without being in a state of sheer Terror the entire time I have always done these on the hydraulic press hydraulic press on a small brooch is potentially a recipe for disaster but here it should be easy peasy allow me to demonstrate I dug up this uh aluminum bushing thing here and by dug up I mean I turned it and boarded on the lathe we won't get into broaching here but there's the the guide bushing the socket and that takes the brooch now we should just be able to push it through I don't know if you can see this but this is set up so that brooch will come through one of the dog holes in the bench maybe you can't see that see that dog hole down there we need to push this brooch clean on through that's not a problem on the stand cuz if you noticed it was plasma cut the same profile as the base I made just hang like a plastic bottle or something in there so I'm not dropping parts or expensive brooches more importantly let me get some cutting oil set you up on the other side I'm just going to use some WD40 that's aluminum The Cutting oil is actually better but I don't want to make my bench big sticky mess I've run out of convenient range at this point I'm just going to reset oh that's nice can you see all those chips in there I'm going to drop in a shim and we'll do it again I don't know if I put the right shim in there or it needs a second one I'm not going to bother to measure it just for demonstration purposes but there you have it a nice little pucker Factor one if not zero key cut in a/ in bore a lot less stressful than the hydraulic press well I think that's everything wait is that everything hold on hold on I had a checklist build and paint the Press stand got it ratchet modification check fart joke check pin tooling that was this stuff uh sort of one or two I need to buy some Dow pins oh the punch tooling the sheet metal punch tooling I changed my mind there's no way to ensure the alignment i' need with the play that's in this Ram it'll have to be its own sort of tooling plate with the punch and the D sort of suspended in the right place probably a spring a stripper plate that sort of stuff something I can put in the press as one Standalone tool but project for another day uh pin tooling punch uh drill crooked holes check uncrackable oh almost forgot the most important bit a

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Length: 28min 8sec (1688 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 15 2024