AOC And Raskin On Stakes Of Midterms: We Are 'Facing An Environment Of Fascism'

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VEST BY THE BALLOT DROP BOX THAT ARE ARMED, THAT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT LINE. THERE IS A HISTORY OF VOTER INTIMIDATION, AND VOTER DISCRIMINATION, AND OBSTACLES TO THE BALLOT. ESPECIALLY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, LATINO COMMUNITIES. YOU HAVE GOT TO VIEW THE GUY SHOWING UP, IN CAMO GEAR, AND MASKS AS PART OF THAT HISTORY AS AN ATTEMPT TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM GOING OUT TO VOTE. AND IT IS REALLY CRITICAL IN THIS ELECTION THAT EVERY VOTER UNDERSTANDS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CAN VOTE IN THEIR STATE AND THAT THEY DO VOTE AND SHOW NO FEAR. >> YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE POINT THAT YOU SAID THAT POLITICAL VIOLENCE CAN COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. WHILE ALSO REALLY HAVING TO ACKNOWLEDGE A VERY CENTRAL FACT THAT REPORTING FROM THE FBI, AND FROM TERMS OF HOMELAND SECURITY, JAMIE AND I SIT, AND HE IS THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT SUBCOMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CIVIL LIBERTIES. WE HAVE HELD HEARINGS ON THIS, AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT THE DATA SHOWS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF INCIDENTS OF DOMESTIC TERROR COME FROM WHITE NATIONALISM. AND THAT WE ARE REALLY, TRULY FACING THE ENVIRONMENT OF FASCISM. AND IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THIS TYPE OF INTIMIDATION AT THE POLLS BRINGS US TO JIM CROW, IT BRINGS US BACK, AND BRINGS US BACK TO A VERY UNIQUE FORM OF AMERICAN APARTHEID THAT IS NOT THAT LONG PASSED AGO. AND WE HAVE NEVER FULLY HEALED FROM THAT. AND THOSE WOUNDS THREATENED TO RIP BACK OPEN IF WE DO NOT STRONGLY DEFEND DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >> YEAH. THE PLAINTIFFS IN THAT LAWSUIT SITE THE KKK ACT, WHICH IS PAST PRECISELY BECAUSE OF VOTER INTIMIDATION. THE JUDGE IN THAT RULING, WHO KNOCKS IT DOWN SAYS IT IS FINE, THERE IS NO EXAMPLE THAT THEY ARE TARGETING MINORITY VOTERS HERE, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT IT IS ALSO LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY HAS SPECIFIED -- WHICH SEEMS TO BE SOME OF THE RULING HERE. BUT IT IS ALSO LIKE, YOU JUST FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LEVEL THAT WE WALKED OFF SOME PLATFORM OF LIBERAL DEMOCRACY, FREE AND OPEN DEBATE INTO THIS KIND OF MENACE. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING BACK ONTO THE PLATFORM. HOW DO YOU RENT THAT BACK IN A SOCIETY THAT HAS TAKEN SOME REAL STEPS TOWARDS ONE OR THE OTHER. >> WHAT ARE THE BIG POLITICAL TECTONIC PLATES HERE? THERE IS THE CENTRAL RHETORIC ON THE RIGHT BETWEEN THE BIG LIE AND ELECTION DENIALISM, REPLACEMENT THEORY, WHICH THE ANXIETY THAT AMERICA SOMETIME LATER ON THIS CENTURY WILL BE A SOCIETY WHERE THE BIGGEST RACIAL BLOCK, ARE NOT A MAJORITY IN THE COUNTRY. AND THEY ARE PLAYING ON THAT FEAR. SO ALL OF THE ELECTORAL PARANOIA IS REALLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE VOTE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WIN ELECTIONS WHENEVER DELIBERATE WHITE BLOCKS FORM. THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS THROUGH THE RECOGNITION THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST MULTIRACIAL, MULTI ETHNIC, MULTI RELIGIOUS CONSTITUTION DEMOCRACY AND WE KNOW HOW TO LIVE TOGETHER AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS TRULY EXCEPTIONAL. >> I THINK THE OTHER THING, I HAVE WATCHED DEMOCRATS STRUGGLE TO FIND THIS MESSAGE, AND SOME DO IT BETTER THAN OTHERS IS THIS QUESTION OF WEAVING TOGETHER THIS COALITION OF SOLIDARITY ACROSS, IT IS THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE -- I GET THE PIECE OF PIE SO YOU DON'T, AND I THINK THAT IT IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT IN THESE MIDTERMS, BECAUSE AT ONE LEVEL IT IS LIKE IT FEELS LIKE A CENTRAL LEVEL DEMOCRACY, AND I THINK IT IS IN SOME WAYS, BUT IT IS ALSO LIKE I WAS JUST TALKING WITH SOMEONE WHO WORKS ON A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN. IT IS LIKE -- THAT IS FRONT OF MIND FOR THEM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU MESSAGE AROUND THIS STUFF IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON REAL, IMPORTANT MATERIAL, IMMEDIATE CONCERNS. ALSO, THOSE CONCERNS ARE BEING USED TO PRY PEOPLE IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY TIP THE SCALES TOWARD THIS POLITICAL PARTY THAT INCREASINGLY DOESN'T BELIEVE IN -- >> I THINK WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THE WAY THAT WE MESSAGE ABOUT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE RACIAL REALITIES OF OUR ECONOMIC ISSUES AND THE ECONOMIC REALITIES OF RACIAL ISSUES THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT DISTINCT OR SILOED, IF YOU ARE A BLACK AMERICAN, IF YOU ARE BLACK OR LATINO IN THE LAST 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS. YOU ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETED FOR UNJUST INCARCERATION. ONCE THAT HAPPENED, ONCE YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR RECORD YOU CANNOT ACCESS HOUSING IN THE SAME WAY, YOU CANNOT GET EMPLOYED IN THE SAME WAY, YOU HAVE ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL BARRIERS THAT REALLY FUNNEL YOU INTO BEING TRACKED IN POVERTY. WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT INFLATION, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REDLINED, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHO COULD GET A MORTGAGE AND WHO CAN'T, HOW IT IS TEN TIMES HARDER TO BE POOR IN AMERICA, OR TO BE WORKING CLASS IN AMERICA, AND HOW THAT DIVIDE IS GROWING. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY INTERCONNECTED, AND THEY WANT US TO THINK THAT THEY ARE VERY SEPARATE, THAT IT IS EITHER OR. EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ISSUES LIKE INFLATION, A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE MASSIVE CONSOLIDATION OF OUR MARKETS, AND CORPORATE GREED. OUR INFLATION IS NOT GOING UP DUE TO GOVERNMENT POLICIES, INFLATION IS GOING UP DUE TO WALL STREET DECISIONS. AND THE IDEA THAT THEY CAN JUST SQUEEZE US FOR EVERY PENNY THAT WE ARE WORTH AND WE COULD ALSO SAY THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT IT IS IMPACTING COMMUNITIES OTHERS THAN OTHER. THAT IS HOW WE CAN REALLY EMPHASIZE THIS MESSAGE. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS JUST REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS IDEA THAT IT IS EITHER OR IS VERY DANGEROUS. AND SOCIAL EQUITY IS SOMEHOW A DETRIMENT TO OUR DEMOCRACY PLAN INTO THE FOLKS THAT DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT EITHER. >> WE NEED A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY IN ORDER TO DELIVER ECONOMIC GOODS TO THE PEOPLE. I AM PROUD OF THE FACT THAT IT IS OUR PARTY, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT, I THINK THAT PEOPLES BELIEF IN THAT AS A FIRST PRINCIPLE -- >> I WILL GIVE YOU TWO GREAT EXAMPLES OF IT. WE JUST DRAMATICALLY LOWERED PRESCRIPTION DRUG COST OUT OF POCKET PRESCRIPTION DRUG COST FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM BY SAYING THAT YOU ARE LIMITED TO $2,000 TO WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IN THE YEAR. IF YOU ARE A DIABETIC ON INSULIN SHOTS, TO $35 A MONTH. THAT IS GOING TO SHARE A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. HOW DID WE DO THAT? WE REPEALED A GOP SPECIAL INTEREST PROVISION THAT AS CHAIR OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE THAT SUCKED IN, THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH BIG PHARMA FOR LOWER DRUG PRICES. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS CORPORATE SOCIALISM WHERE THEY GOT TO DICTATE TO THE GOVERNMENT AND TO THE PEOPLE WHAT THE PRICES WOULD BE. JUST FINALLY, AFTER TEN YEARS OF STRUGGLE, WE OVERTURNED THAT. WE HAD REPUBLICANS CAMPAIGNING ALL OVER AMERICA TO REPEAL WHAT WE JUST DID IN ORDER TO SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND TO LOWER EVERYONE'S PRESCRIPTION DRUG COSTS. IT IS THE SAME THING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. I SAT THERE FOR FOUR YEARS UNDER DONALD TRUMP. THEY HAD AN INFRASTRUCTURE DAY, THEY HAD AN INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK, THEY HAD AN INFRASTRUCTURE MONTH, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. AND I THINK THAT WE GOT THE BILL DONE. AND PRESIDENT BIDEN SPOKE CLEAR IN OFFICE. SO THAT IS A 1.2 TRILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE AIRPORTS, AND EXPANDING ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS. WE DID THAT. WE DIDN'T JUST TALK ABOUT THAT, WE DELIVERED. DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT IT IS THE AUTOCRATS OF THE WORLD LIKE VLADIMIR PUTIN, OR DONALD TRUMP, WHO ARE GOING TO DELIVER TO THE MIDDLE CLASS? IMMEDIATELY, THEY CUT TAXES FOR THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN SOCIETY. THAT IS THEIR AGENDA, AND THEY DO IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY, THE MIDDLE CLASS PROSPERS WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE IN CONTROL, NOT REPUBLICANS. >> IT IS PRETTY WILD. THEY DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN LED WITH THIS, BUT YOU HEARD REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT THE HOUSE, WHAT THEY WILL DO, AND IT IS LIKE HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE, SOCIAL SPENDING, MAYBE CUT MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY IF WE CAN, AND MAKE THE TAX CUTS PERMANENT. IT IS LIKE, WHEN EVERYTHING IS WIPED AWAY IN THE END, THAT IS, IN DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. >> YEAH, AND THEY WANT TO CRIMINALIZE ABORTION AT 15 WEEKS NATIONALLY, KEVIN MCCARTHY, THE HOUSE MINORITY LEADER WHO WANTS TO BECOME SPEAKER, AND HAS COME OUT IN FAVOR OF CRIMINALIZING ABORTION AT 15 WEEKS -- >> ARE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE BABIES? >> NO THEY WON'T. AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT, NOT ONLY DID THEY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO CUT PROGRAMS LIKE MEDICARE, BUT THAT THEY WANT TO, AND SOCIAL SECURITY, BUT THAT THEY WANT TO HOLD ENTIRELY KNIGHTED STATES CONNERY'S HOSTAGE BY THREATENING TO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT IN ORDER TO FORCE PRESIDENT BIDEN TO CUT MEDICARE. AND SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE ISSUES, YOU WILL, I MEAN, THIS WILL BE SO DESTRUCTIVE FOR ALL OF OUR OLDER ADULTS IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW AFTER THE ELECTION, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THAT PREDICTION IS WORTH WHAT HE IS CHARGING YOU FOR. WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK AFTERWARDS AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE IF IT COMES TO THAT. CONGRESSWOMA
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 266,311
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Keywords: Chris Hayes
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Length: 11min 9sec (669 seconds)
Published: Fri Oct 28 2022
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