Anita Sarkeesians 'death threats' and Joss Whedons 'misogyny'!

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dear mainstream media I can't but help find it ironic that you are rushing to the aid of a damsel in distress well that very same damsel has pointed out again and again how sexist it is to rescue damsels like this a damsel woman on the other hand is shown as incapable of escaping the predicament on her own and the perpetual victims of male violence I mean in games rescuing a damsel is just robbing them of their agency and does nothing to change patterns of Perpetual victimhood and preventing them from solving their own problems that is mainstream media you are just turning Anita sarkeesian into a ball in the game of patriarchy in our first episode I described the damsel in distress trope is playing into a form of objectification because traditionally damsel characters become the central object or gold in a competition between men I explained that in the game of patriarchy women are not the opposing team they are actually the ball further you are intrinsically sexist since when Jack Thompson came up with this video games encourage murder bullshit though the 130 million dollar suit was dismissed Thompson is still convinced that these images inspired three murders Thompson grand theft auto 4 grand theft auto force bard attorney Jack Thompson has long been an advocate against obscenity in pop culture to him this is not entertainment it is a murder simulator you were like yeah but Jack Thompson's an idiot and people are perfectly justified to wear those everyone hates Jack Tom's and deters and to create games where they beat him up but when Anita sarkeesian comes out with this bullshit like video games cause sexism and people call her on it then you're like oh no look what a terrible problem gaming has with sexism she must really be on to something but for me I am NOT a sexist like that I'm for equal opportunities if I see a wrinkly old man saying something as bullshit I called him on it game industry lobbyists are quick to point out a total of nine federal courts have rejected so-called studies that videogames cause aggression and I do exactly the same thing if it's a pretty young girl but coming back to your desperate need to save this damsel maybe I can help you distinguish between a a real damsel and someone who is just playing you for a chump you just may be the most gullible fool I ever marked and that makes you special the truth I play to you from minute one you see this is the way that works if you have real death threats credible ones the first line of action is always to say contact the FBI and keep your mouth shut after all if you can't blow off your mouth in public you jeopardize any potential investigation and reduce the chances of the person who you think is actually making credible threats being caught because if you think someone is making credible death threats the last thing that you want is for them to go to ground and yeah not only that I work this out myself cuz it bloody common sense but when I had some credible death threats and did contact the FBI this was the first thing that they told me don't respond but that's not what Anita sarkeesian did she went and tweeted about it straight away about her death threats to ensure it ended up on all of the blogs at best its outstandingly damn well curiously these are threats coincided with the release of her new videos which spanned till now had been gathering less and less attention since our initial victim orientated kickstart project originally raised a cache it's far from clear of the docs that she says are being dropped here anything more than her public address of her a charity organization and as many have pointed out there's something just really weird about Anita being able to find all these tweets within 12 seconds of the Ming posted without her even being signed in to Twitter but what I can tell you with certainty is within 24 hours of getting this massive mainstream attention she put out a tweet asking for money after all she was only given a hundred and sixty thousand dollars for her Kickstarter project which was 25 times what she said she needed to do the project I actually raised 25 times what I initially asked and she said he made five or six videos so far of course he needs more money and she's not just milking fo threats for cash because as we all know gamers a complete psychos and have a long reputation of killing game critics oh hang on no that's right no they don't I mean let's just put this sexist gaming media into perspective when Jack Thompson got death threats where was the social justice warrior outrage there um here's some people have intentionally incited people to kill me trying to threaten to kill me where with a smug self-righteous Muppets egg no death threats to show that video games don't cause violence thank you for proving my point yet death threats or not the wrinkly old white man is widely hated and no one cares but when the pretty young woman gets exactly the same crap for exactly the same bogus argument apart from for her games cause sexism rather than violence game industry lobbyists are quick to point out a total of nine federal courts have rejected so-called studies that video games cause aggression and you're one of the most shameful social justice foria pity parties ever well you can make it that what you will but it turns out that Anita is a big fan of Joss Whedon you know the guy who made the Avengers and Firefly but it looks like Joss Whedon is also a fan of hers and he puts out this tweet what's the feminist frequency tropes vs. women video even if you think you get it the ship tonnage makes the misogyny seem newly appalling I watched a bunch of women getting sliced up in video games and now I'm watching it on my Twitter feed feminist frequency is just truth-telling deal hmm just I'm really not quite sure you understand the kind of a truth-telling that Anita sarkeesian is into and how sexist your work would appear to the eyes of a staunch feminist like feminist frequency if it were given similar scrutiny the practice of using hyper sexualized women as ornamental objects has been especially brazen notice how the camera moves how it focuses on and zooms in on specific body parts to highlight the aspects of women meant to be the most important Oh me honey systematized sexuality in ways that dehumanize women like yeah baby essentially turning them into vending machines dispensing sex are you feeling lonely mind their worth as characters is measured entirely in terms of what they can give to the class I have a theory about all this as we all know nothing is more symbolic of sexism than the assumption that women should cook for men i I've sadly gotten used to sexist slurs and sexist insults usually involving kitchens and sandwiches and just rather than steering clear of this trope altogether Joss Whedon fully endorses it well no I mean for you I'm a fine cook everyone says are you enjoying your own new buy a little slave girl she wanted to make me dinner I'll get your refill hon that's for me to do ensuring that women and their fictional representations systematically disempowered and victimized I lived my life in the maiden house waiting to be married offer trade tonight as well as paying tribute to Joss Whedon and the wonderful female characters that he's created I didn't think to make enough hair friends but everything's laid out if you'd like to cook for your husband wife suit I must have done good yes dear you done good hmm I also find it deeply troubling that a privileged white male like Josh Wheaton is complaining about women getting sliced up in video games when the movies he makes like the cabin in the woods is basically a sadistic misogynistic fantasy about disempowering and demeaning women and propagates some of the most harmful and pernicious socially misogynistic traditions ever in some cases the women are just cut up by Josh it's a rush screaming from a carefully concocted mix of sexual arousal connected to the act of controlling and punishing representations of female sexuality but Josh doesn't just stop with slicing women up in his videos he put men in empowering situations over women remember subjects act objects are acted upon I'm curious to do my it tomatoes niche area your month of stolen Dominion and they have to write it down the refer to this is torture porn these men are essentially the physical presence of the patriarchy to remind men of their physical superiority over women that voyeurs of Josh's fantasies are invited to explore the possibilities of pausing the film to extend Wheaton simulated torture of a helpless woman because this is what we learn from Anita sarkeesian that simply because you were given the option by the creators means that you are being invited to explore these ways of viewing the media game developers set up a series of rules and then within those rules were invited to test the mechanics to see what we can do and what we can't do we are encouraged to experiment with how the system will react or respond to our inputs and discover which of our actions are permitted and which are not the game makers have set up a series of possible scenarios involving vulnerable eroticized female characters players are then invited to explore and exploit those situations during the playthrough the player cannot help but treat these female bodies as things to be acted upon because they were designed constructed and placed in the environment for that singular purpose flares are meant to derive a perverse pleasure from desecrating the bodies of unsuspecting virtual female characters it's a rush streaming from a carefully concocted mix of sexual arousal connected to the act of controlling and punishing representations of female sexuality indeed what Josh does is far worse than what happens in video games with video games the protagonist has some choice about the outcome with just reasons material you have no option but to watch the inevitable outcome sexualizing an objectifying the torture of women could the hatred of women be any clearer have to be said and sadly it does need to be said this is misogyny and that should make us all rightfully angry but we can further tell just how much jos hates women by using the anita sarkisian tropes vs. women series damn jaws even makes a movie where the whole and the Virgin must be sacrificed to an ancient evil and of course the whore must die first there must be at least five the whore she's corrupted she dies first and of course he loves slut-shaming the women in these videos must have taken a dozen slaves a dozen days to get you into that getup of course your daddy tells me it takes the space of the schoolboys wink to get you out of it again using derogatory gender slurs against them yeah well I don't suppose you're the only whore latern amid a torrent of misogynistic flirts how about I stay out of your whoring well that didn't take you bad upon all these folks don't much care to their horse I'm in I really think that the boys oz should be taking a hard look in the misogynistic mirror before making tweets like this which feminist frequencies treacherous is women video even if you think you get it the shake tonnage makes misogyny seem newly appalling and remember how I need to told us that gender signifiers were basically aware promoting and propagating sexualized and demeaning attitudes towards women the most commonly used gendered signifiers or feminizing accessories are blip stick long eyelashes and the color pink but there are a whole host of other design elements that in combination served the same purpose other signifiers used to differentiate women for men are pigtails high-heeled shoes painted nails pronounced makeup especially blush and eyeshadow midriff-baring outfits exaggerated breasts with exposed cleavage and a heart motif in their design or powers one repercussion of constantly relying on feminizing signifiers for character design is that it tends to reinforce a strict binary form of gender expression the gender binary is an entirely artificial and socially constructed vision of male and female into two distinctly separate and opposing classes of human being oh I don't know what do we have a jaws here you affirm the idea that women are the properties of others to us we like it back an object to be reclaimed this is a form of objectification because as objects damsel women are being acted upon most often becoming or reduced to a prize to be won a treasure to be found or a goal to be achieved the hero's fight to retrieve his stolen property then provides the Lazy justification got her down girl is which yeah but she's our witch so cut of the hell down this new video series will primarily focus on tracking five stereotypical representations of women I'm going to look at the damsel in distress the fighting clip toy the sexy sidekick the sexy villainous assassin happy really hot and the most common trope in video games women at background decoration female characters that fall under the background decoration trope however don't even rise to the level of importance necessary to be pawns in someone else's game well the pattern of utilizing women as background decoration works to reinforce the myth that women are naturally faded to be objectified vulnerable and perpetually victimized by male violence seriously the woman's objectification is so obvious that she just stands as an object in a shop window like a like a item waiting to be purchased yes just Wheaton's character or a long list of stereotypical misogynistic tropes one after the other plot devices that capitalize on female trauma for shock value function in much the same way as the hitting a child or kicking the dog tropes do you can still walk away from this I you're tired uncle visiting my intentions don't ever these vignettes are not major plot points instead violence against women is essentially used as a set piece to establish or punctuate the seedy atmosphere of crime and chaos ridden fictional universes but this is the most horrific thing of all is just wrote a character who is quite happy to rape a woman as a way of punishing her Lindley won Jubal Early what do you want that's a beating heart isn't it clough any one of a thousand parts she'll just die such a slender thread you ever been raped and this in just wheaton to own words is a character he loves and part of being a writer is creating entire universes and that's beautiful even underneath the meaning just the glory of the the way the resonance the sounds these these things it's uh it's intoxicating you ever been raped it's uh it's intoxicating unless you make some kind of ruckus you draw a monkey wrench into my dealings in any way your body is forfeit we must remember that games don't just entertain intentional or not they always Express a set of values and present us with concepts of normalcy some people think they can outsmart me maybe I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet intentional or not they always Express a set of values and present us with concepts of normalcy guys someone so what do games that casually rely on depictions of female victimhood tell us about women visa vie their place in society ain't nothing but a body to me and I can find all unseemly manner abuse for it Donna put your hands behind your back Oh joss whedon I know especially I love that character yes that's right Anita sarkeesian the feminist is a great fan of a man who created a character who will rape women for punishment and he loves that character even better it seems that josh has this fetish for women hating tropes such as women in freezers and boxes which is Anita will tell us is a uninventive of an original plot device writers are using the women refrigerators trope well to literally trade a female characters life for the benefit of a male character story arc what the hell is this this is my sister we have to remember that the women in refrigerators list was created for us to identify understand and resist the variety of ways that women and our fictional representations are disempowered and victimized that women and our fictional representations are disempowered and victimized casually sacrificing female characters in the name of setting a ruthless narrative Tom just one of many female characters whose random and meaningless death was constructed in order to create a more intricate storyline for a male hero you're gonna pay for what you thought she was just a whore on God dang VC Hall so easy shorthand for evil meant to further motivate the protagonist to take the villain down and help justify the excessive violence committed by the player in these games you're gonna pay for what you've done he was just a whore that they're created by artists and writers who live in the same sex and social systems that we all do and that's reflected in the characters and the stories it's saddening to see how flippantly and trivially violence against women is treated especially when violence against women in the real world are at epidemic levels instead depictions of female pain and victimhood are flippantly summoned to serve as sideshow attractions and story lines about other things altogether if they take the ship they'll rape us to death eat our flesh and so our skins into their clothing and if we're very very lucky they'll do it in that order No so who's to blame the entire music industry and how the market functions in general for decades they've been making sexualized shocking and violent media products more and more we see the industry cynically relying on sensationalism and glamorization of violence against women in order to boost sales but instead sanitized violence against women and make it comfortably consumable rape and sexual assault are also frequently used as a sort of narrative currency to try and raise the emotional stakes and heighten the dramatic tension looks like you get their wedding on after all casual cruelty implemented as an easy way to deliver a quick emotional punch to the player by presenting attacks on characters specifically designed to appear pitifully vulnerable I know you're tired these scenes serve no real purpose in the plot other than to let the audience know that the perpetrators are truly deplorable monsters uncle visiting my intentions don't over these women and their bodies are sacrificed in the name of infusing mature themes into gaming stories but there's nothing mature about flippantly evoking shades of female trauma it ends up sensationalizing an issue which is painfully familiar to a large percentage of women on this planet but there's nothing mature about flippantly evoking shades of female trauma it ends up sensationalizing an issue which is painfully familiar to a large percentage of women on this planet psychic though that sounds like something out of science fiction you live in a spaceship dear while also normalizing and trivializing their experiences now if I were Josh I would say this is just bloody preposterous you've taken a bunch of clips and used them way out of context and put on it a pathetically contrived narrative to make it seem like the movie industry and me in particular have an axe to grind against women which I say of course that is the Sarkisian analysis the truth telling that you were gushing over a God dang VC Hall the lazy shorthand for evil meant to further motivate the protagonist to take the villain down and help justify the excessive violence committed by the player in these games you're gonna pay for what you've done she was just a whore seriously toss he produced the cabin in the woods of which this was merely one scene imagine the devil sermon and a meter sarkeesian style truth-telling could deliver using the cutscenes from just the women in this movie you know all that stuff about their the whore dying first and the virgin later all all the psyches in style voice able to tell the audience what they meant to take from all this Joss is trying to normalize tentacle rape in the scene and to trigger helpless women who ever fear of being killed by invulnerable bulletproof psychotic clowns I mean the whole thing is preposterous you apply this psyche Xion truth-telling to the gaming industry and cleanse it all incredibly sexist and in need of reform and yet seem to ignore the fact that if someone had done exactly the same psyche tea and truth-telling about your movies they would have come to the conclusion that you are a sick woman hater who guesses kicked out of watching women getting beaten being forced to kill themselves and watching it over and over again in slow motion to have them frozen in boxes and who loves to write characters who threatened to rape women to death and so on and how there's nothing good about what you do or who you are and how you're misogynistic anti-woman seed should be wiped from the earth to be honest and all with you Joss Jubal Early was a great character and Firefly was a great series but you cannot endorse a criticism of gaming being sick and misogynistic when an identical analysis of your material would show that you're also a sick misogynist I mean that's it that's the bottom line you cannot sit down and write characters who will rape women to death and say how you love this character and then complain when other people use similarly gritty characters to make great video games which is exactly what you did when you endorsed Anita sarkeesian let me just say one last thing closing people are not angry at an eater sarkeesian because criticizes gamer they're not angry at her because she's a woman they're not even angry at her because she's a feminist but because she pisses on them and told them it's a raining the difference is of course that some of us could tell she was talking crap while others just sat there and thought wow the rains kind of warm today you just may be the most gullible fool I ever marked and that makes you special you

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Length: 27min 42sec (1662 seconds)

Published: Wed Sep 03 2014

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I love how she states everything so matter-of-factly. "this implies that women are...." "This creates a fantasy for..." How the fuck do you know what goes through my head when I play a video game? How incredibly stupid and arrogant. I am glad to see thunderf00t took the time to show that you can conjure up this type of feminist critique on anyone you want, so you can demonize any opponent you have and instantly poison the well. Anita Sarkeesian has about as much of a chance of being killed by an enraged gamer.... not a man mind you, as no chauvinists are mad at her, just gamers.... as I have of being killed by a great white shark.

👍︎︎ 56 👤︎︎ u/Sluggocide 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

Some one should send all the "tropes" in Whedon's movies to his twitter in response to him.

👍︎︎ 12 👤︎︎ u/dr46235 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

I forgot how much I want to punch Jack Thompson in the dick.

👍︎︎ 15 👤︎︎ u/GletscherEis 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

Playing the victim while telling people that women aren't victims. I just don't get her. But hey, its getting her sponsorship. Step two is to burn all video games. Its a bit like burning books. And nothing bad ever came from burning books.

👍︎︎ 19 👤︎︎ u/franklyimshocked 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

She is such a fucking cunt

👍︎︎ 29 👤︎︎ u/GreyChillstep 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

I am impressed with the magnitude of ignorance she displays with her know-nothing tone and how she points out the misogyny of representing a whorehouse digitally. I guess in her version of history, women have always had equal rights, or else according to revisionist feminist history, we can't refer to those times.

What an ignorant dipshit.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/thisonetimeonreddit 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

Anyone with half a brain knows that her videos are completely cherry picked and biased. Voicing hate for this woman is just as futile as voicing hate for the Westboro Baptist Church.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

The difference between Joss Whedon and many other authors who write robust female characters, and those who don't, is context. I don't follow Anita Sarkeesian, so I don't know how much she pays attention to context, but I play enough games and watch enough movies to know that the context is far from acceptable in many things.

Prominent feminists often go overboard, and the radical fringe of feminism is pretty ugly, but the correct response to bad feminism is better feminism, not false equivocation between good content and bad.

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/ReyTheRed 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies

Her videos are always so stupid. Other than taking scenes out of context, she also blatantly ignores when the exact same thing she's talking about happens to men.

A woman being killed objectifies them to make the main character's story progress? The same happens to male characters in, for example, one of the games on her wall: Farcry 3. Pain, grief, and sorrow are just notoriously good motivators that many people can relate to. Bad story telling, maybe; but to call it sexist is dishonest.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/Qapiojg 📅︎︎ Sep 03 2014 🗫︎ replies