Amazing Journeys to Christ - The Testimony of Adam Seeker

well hello everyone this is alfadi and you're joining us in a special edition of let us freeze and my apology we ran into some technical issues so hopefully things are resolved by now we have a very special uh show today we have a dear brother in christ his name is adam seeker and that's the name he goes by and uh we elected also for his safety to honor his request not to show his face but uh he is going to share with us his journey to christ and uh as always uh we are delighted and excited when we hear these kind of stories because it's an encouragement to all of us and uh hopefully you will get to know yet another child of god today thank you to all of you who are here thank you for our moderators and i just want to apologize in advance folks there has been some technical issues and specifically has to do with internet connectivity i'm hoping that it will not interrupt our live stream if anything were to happen and we could not uh restore it i promise you we'll have our brother back again and we'll do another live stream if that's what we have to do with that in mind i want to welcome you brother and thank you so much for your courage of course and for taking the time to be with us here to share your journey to christ with that i want to turn it over to you and you may start by giving us a brief background about uh uh you know you don't have to give specifics but but uh your background were you born into an islamic family an islamic nation and uh how was it like for you growing up as a follower of islam yes hi hi brother alfa and everyone god bless you all in jesus name i start yes i uh i was born in a saiyad muslim family by saying say that means that my lineage all the way goes back to uh muhammad or his tribe basically ali to begin with but we used to call ourselves uh from the lineage of imam hasan askri i'm not a shia please make sure of that a lot of people think about that and say that he's from the shia religion but i was a sunni uh as far as my early life or life as muslim concerned i used to i started offering prayer when i was i think 9 or 10 somewhere around that time i never left a single fast uh starting from i think 13 or 14 years of my life and prayer means uh prayer doing the five times salah the fathers over macribanisha and the more i grew up the more i used to do more salah prayers fasting taking care of the clothing specific bathing ritualistic bathing prayer before driving prayer to enter the house and pray to get out of the way these are all very specific prayers that muslims has to do during his life the life of a of a muslim is is pretty calculated in terms of what he has to be to when he wake up what he has to do when he has to take the bath specific stuff and et cetera et cetera et cetera being a family of a saiyad uh lineage or cast uh there were a lot of uh respect just for for the lineage that i had in our country and yes you can't see my face because my country has a as a law that blasphemers uh by law they can kill me hang till that so the article 295c uh unfortunately yeah yes sir yeah i'm saying unfortunately that's the case uh i agree with you yes so yeah that's that's how i grew up uh going to mosque specifically the the friday prayer it it is you know it's a it's a big prayer uh even when i was working with the foreign companies they knew that on friday at this time to this time nobody can have a meeting with me so because i was very rigid on that point like i can't miss the friday prayer because that's what muhammad said that if you miss the friday prayer he feels like that he should burn the house of that person who misses the friday prayer so i was pretty ritualistic when it comes to my my life as a as a muslim and uh and that's sorry yeah i mean so so uh that's how you were growing up uh if you can touch also on what was your understanding of islam were you taught this at the school level also or was it only at the mosque level and maybe at home i'm just curious about how your knowledge about islam uh was continuing to grow uh so yes uh there is islamic studies that you that is compulsory uh subject for you uh starting from the first grade till the high school so even if you are a christian or a jew or atheist you have to study islamic studies that's full stop there is no question asked in our school there was another compulsory subject which was called arabic and you have to take the arabic class till middle school so that was standard so but like that's that's the problem all they tell you is filtered stuff so you have all the good things all the nice things all the peaceful things and all all good in there they will never tell you anything so and specifically just to correlate to this point we have a specific book called majmul sahil bukhari so instead of all the 1416 books they have one single book over there which you can easily buy and they they have all the nice collections taken out from sahih al-bukhari into that book and same is the case that when you actually go and study in in school they have all the nicer verses in there it will never touch sp it will never even touch the the specifically the surat or anything like that they won't even touch it and on the higher studies when they touch it they will describe it in a very specific way where you will feel that it is for that specific time according to that area and nothing more nothing less so all the isis and et cetera sector which we here here since uh 90s and stuff like different kind of terrorist organization we all used to think they are non-islamic and uh that's that's a that's a dilemma so you are told something different but at the same time it is proclaimed very easily that if anybody says anything against muhammad it's it's uh it's a it's you should kill him by law and that's what muhammad said and then and in a muslim country that's very easily uh stated uh apostasy law you should give three days to three months depending but then again apostates should be killed as well and so these these things are there they do proclaim it but in a way that it sounds right you know what i mean like it just sounds right when when you are a muslim it just definitely sounds right because he's your prophet uh how about if somebody says wrong about your mother or father and stuff like that so that's how they defend that and uh that's that's that's how i learned and about islam and preached islam as well now uh also when you were growing up um did you have any contact or exposure to christians in general or maybe someone that you knew their missionaries i i knew christians from my school from my college and from my office as well but nobody can speak about christianity openly it is kind of a sin in other ways it's not a sin but it's kind of a sin because i can report him somebody else can report him or our friendship will go bad or stuff like that so it's very hard for somebody to speak about christianity in in in our country that's just that's just almost impossible none of my friends could ever speak about christianity even when i'm speaking and telling them about islam and kind of mocking jesus in other words by saying hey you guys believe him as god and etc they still cannot retaliate because they just simply cannot say muhammad is not a prophet it will it will go in a section uh ordinance so it is very hard for the the people to actually proclaim uh the true word of god over there openly they can't even preach on the streets they have to preach inside the churches only a muslim can preach on the streets as well so that's how it is the lim that's the dilemma basically it's it's enforced in such a way that you just simply cannot know the truth yeah so um were there also uh any natives from your country who also are considered to be christians maybe that's their religious tradition not converts but like they were from a christian background were there any yeah there are approximately two person christians in so let let me just give the country name it's it's it's pakistan so there are also that's why i didn't want to say anything because i i know there is so that's why i was asking it this way so uh we know obviously in pakistan there are christian pakistani christians how was life for the pakistani christians when you were growing up and were they with you did they go to the same schools you go to how were they treated how did you view them so out of the whole class of 60 kids i had one christian in the class number one number two there is the majority of the christian out of these two person 90 percent live in a very bad situation only the few who gets to climb up a lot of ladder and they still have the glass ceiling on top they come to the schools that i went through so this this is this is a problem you you just majority of the christians work a very low level job and the dilemma is that you know they are called uh i don't even want i don't know if i can use that word um so i'm gonna use a more better word dump cleaners so the proper terminology of christians that is used in pakistan is dump cleaner uh that's the that's the best translation that i can do uh so the one who actually cleans the drain holes basically the one that takes the dump from your bathrooms and those and those jobs are specifically for these people and that's why they are called that uh since the beginning and even if you see right yes yeah i i know okay keep going please i want to i want to comment on that even if you see the government advertisement because this is a government job they will specifically write that the masihi people are preferred so that's that's the dilemma for these christian body in pakistan so you kind of don't see them up to your level because that's what it is that's the reality of the situation and uh you know i know of another country in the middle east also uh that has a population of christians that live there and they are engaged in this kind of jobs like you mentioned it's unfortunate obviously but uh it is what it is so let me ask you this did you hear anything while you're growing up also about christ in a way that may appear to you different than what you are accustomed to according to the quran like by way of his name you know he's called yahshua or yeshua in arabic you know uh versus the quran calling him asa have you heard things like this did that intrigue you a little bit not at all i never heard anything like that i only knew that he was isa he was messi uh yeshua never came to my knowledge when i was growing up like i said a very rigid kind of an environment my my grandfather was already a a imam kind of a person i don't know how to translate gaddineshin the people actually goes to him for different uh issues and all so uh so-called very pious muslim and all and it's it's it's almost impossible to i never even opened the bible that's how it is like i never even saw the bible in other words there was one time when i was traveling abroad and i saw bible in the site in my hotel room in my side drawer and i just looked at it says bible and i just closed the drawer so that's my introduction with bible that was the only introduction that i had with bible but yeah so that's it so nothing i know that christians i knew back then that christian believed in three gods and uh they also believed mary to be the god uh they worshiped jesus as human being as god and they have three gods so literally that's that's the basic knowledge of majority of muslims in pakistan or in any muslim country so basically it's the standard way of understanding christianity um so what else uh what happened after that um did you you know begin to doubt islam for some reason what led you into for instance a journey that later resulted in you accepting christ so basically uh i went out of pakistan to work and i found a friend a very nice friend and he was christian so in not in pakistan when you are not in pakistan when you are working around non-muslims anyways you get to get have some friends and that's what happens and this guy uh became a good friend and one day he asked me a question you know these kind of questions are not common in pakistan anyways so and i was like okay so this is good that he opened these he opened the topic so it means i need to get him from doing shirk to to allah finally and that's where we started to having discussions and that was that discussion lasted three years you know so that's a three years journey so he used to ask me his current question we used to argue about certain answers we used to fight and all sometimes we fight sometimes we just end the discussion at no conclusion but once again back and forth back and forth back and forth i think two years into our discussion uh he gave me uh a lecture rather some videos of david wood so i was unaware of all these apologetics ministries like david wood or sam shimon or or christian prince or or yours like it was like unknown to me full stop like never thought about listening the listening to the arguments of these people who are presenting so david wood came up to being i started listening to david wood then he gave me a nabil qurashi's testimony and then i was like oh and he shared some really good insights that is the first time then i then i when i started reading uh uh hadith is from the internet because nabil kuraishi shared that it's not preserved there was a burn of burning of quran day and i i was like oh my goodness that's that's not possible you know all my life i believed i was told by each and every single individual that quran is perfectly preserved and and muhammad is the best man who ever lived in this world so like it's it's impossible that hadees is which are saheeh should say that but but no they they are there in sahih bukhari say you're muslim they they are all there uh it's there and they are proclaimed sahih and i went to sorry please uh so something i want you to keep in mind as you're discussing tell us how you felt about these objections that you began to hear about yes so uh objections from david wood so basically once again i will say that i hated david wood i hated sam shimon when it comes to cp i don't think there is any bad word that i knew and i never taken for him okay so what what did you call me no you came in you came for you actually came in very late for me okay very good thank god for that praise god for that so you you are you are one of those guys who came very late for me and you have a huge influence for for my wife to come into christ so but like i was working with david wood at that time and then then and i was like oh my goodness this guy is an idiot okay that's that's the politest word that i can say in news channel right now so but like after a few videos i was like i need to get in and read myself whether he's lying or not and then i started reading the tough series so at the end of the day i read the quran in in nine translations nine english translations and a couple of my language translations i read three of us here including even kathy which is one of the most sugar quoted one and then another nazoon and then i started realizing things are going in a very strange tangent at the same time quran is not perfectly preserved and allah by himself is saying that he abrogates and he makes to forget how did you get to the point that you're convinced or at least beginning to uh doubt the preservation of the quran that's interesting because uh you know that's the hardest thing for a muslim to get over basically exactly because i went to my imam and i said this is what hadees are saying and he he actually gave me the verse from quran saying we do not choose to abra we do not choose to forget and abrogate but we give bring something better or similar so he said like yes there were certain certain verses which were forgotten because allah made them to forget and i held that for a good seven eight months and i used to argue on that but then again and again i i went on uh in 2017 if i'm not mistaken uh while i was searching because i'm i'm a very you know uh guy who who just studies and and wants to correlate and this guy who's my christian friend whom i wanted to bring to islam because he was a nice guy anyway so i wanted to give him the evidence as well so for me to read the rebuttals and give him the evidence was very important because there are two benefits for me one i will get my right hand will get more heavier and i will i will have a better chance to go into jannah and secondly he was doing shirk so he should go to jannah with me so both of these points were there at that particular time so i wanted to give him rebuttals to give him rebuttals i had to do more study and i was spending a lot of time in studying all these things but every time i dig up deep i realize i do not have a rebuttal for him and every time i dig deep things goes in a very strange tangent for me and and that's that's caused me doubts after doubts after doubt and suddenly i i found while i was searching on internet i found a debate i think which is called classical debate between jay smith and and and uh what's the guy's name yes so yeah that debate i i listened to that debate and shabirali gave actually no rebuttal he just gave zero rebuttal and that's just like he and he he made an um table of nine he just and that was like wow this guy is giving all the historical evidences and i had no idea about those things at all after his debate after listening to his debate i i i worked on j smith and i realized there is a video called by dan gibson so i searched on that and i found the video of dan gibson and that just shattered me i was like this is just a theory this guy is an idiot he doesn't know jack about it this video has no meaning whatsoever but then again now we are talking about 2018 and j smith had already so many other rebuttals on that and so many other discussions and debates on that and and and it's just so hard to comprehend all of these things and not go into attention okay forget it makkah was always there dan gibson was all wrong still i do not have a single quran which i can date back to muhammad's time and then hadeeses are saying that quran is not fully preserved there are verses missing there are chapters missing there are so many issues and then suddenly one of the cp's debate about uh breastfeeding the adult wow that's like like most of the muslims don't even know that so yes for you because you are in apologetics you know these muslims who are debating with you or who are coming up and saying certain things they know these things already but as a 95 person muslims they don't know these things at all full stop they just simply do not and and when they first find it out things goes like it goes crazy like how why even if it was for one particular woman why but once again hadees says that aisha used to send these people to her sister and and and it's it's it's just unbelievable like how can um do that and and and and then there was a slavery topic that muhammad freed slaves once again if you go and read hadeeses like muhammad never failed slaves but rather the people who actually freed slaves he sold their slaves and said it is better to give it to your your maternal uncle or parental uncle and stuff like that it's it's just goes into so much tangent and and yes this this cp guy is is that is exposing the true muhammad and and then when i started reading quran this cp guy came up one day um i think two and a half years later this the same friend of mine sent me a video of cp that's the first time i saw cp and i listened to his debate and three or four days later the same guy said did you hurt listen to this debate i was like yes and he's like so what do you think i was like if i haven't given you an answer it means i do not have an answer so let's not talk about that debate so that's how i ended my discussion with him from that but like then i started searching which of the highest imam or the scholar actually have a debate with cp and i found out shabirali stating cp is on a higher rank than me if you do i don't know boxing or football whatever match you you had to be on the same league to talk and i'm not on his league like it was it was it was simply crazy because you are a scholar writing books you have done some phd or multiple phd whatever and you are coming here and saying this like some some scholar needs to put the foot in his mouth cp's mouth and make him stop he's like i i you had no idea how furious i was against cp he was he he was doing blasphemy against blasphemy and and i it's it's crazy for me at that time because i was a muslim you know and i just cannot hear this this this this guy saying all these things but nobody there was nobody in this world who was coming up with cp and debating him and telling him he's lying and so one thing another one thing to another uh my my uh era or aura of perfectly preserved quran went down the train uh islam is a religion of peace went down the dream quran doesn't have any contradictions went down the drain and and the historical evidences of quran went down the drain maryam is the is the uh uh daughter or sister of aaron uh and and and uh uh mr zakir zakir uh saying that it is because of the noble people at that particular time but uh most noble person of that particular time but that should be yau moses if that's what you want to say and then this guy came up and he said like they were not even from the same tribe because he knew bible i didn't and he showed me from the bible that this was the tribe of levi this was the tribe of judah and this is this is coming from that area and that's like everything like everything that i held true started went down into a a big hole and uh yeah don't don't think it's not the other holes that uh right right so that's that's fascinating and i just want to welcome again everybody who's joining us thank you for the moderators and by the way moderators i took the liberty to block uh one guy you know uh we didn't need his headache um uh all uh you know i wanted to say is that you guys are watching now and listening to amazing testimony by our dear brother adam seeker adam before we continue how can people by the way follow you just if you want to tell them about your presence because that's how i came across you yeah i am in facebook with the name of adam seeker i have i have recently started my youtube channel which is youtube.com c forward slash adam seeker and at the same time i have my own website called adamseekeroftruth.com so all of these things if people are seeking to find you they cannot miss you right it's adam seeker so uh that's what the uh and this is the sign look at his sign you'll be able to to find it's it's bullseye for sure so um you started it to doubt uh all of your uh preservations and all of your um you know sense of confidence uh were shattered so did that help you accept christ right away or did you go through a phase of maybe uh debating yourself now a phase of maybe delu being disillusioned or or what happened yes so the second point second stage of my thing was that at the end they were one day i just suddenly said okay it's enough is enough uh if allah is not god and muhammad is not a prophet and he was just a seventh century guy i don't even want to say anything more about that there's so many things that i can attach to that i don't know if it is under 18 permissible so anyhow then there is no god full stop there could be some superpower some aliens who dropped something here in this world and we we got born and i went into that direction and i that is the time like my wife at that particular time uh did not know that i was doing this much research he knew she knew that i was doing some research i was showing her some very minor minor things because i just simply cannot i was afraid uh our relationship will go down the drain but the day i said now imagine i used to get up in the morning i used to take a bath a ritualistic bath do my fajr prayer then i openly proclaim the bismillah before my breakfast when i go out in my car i do another prayer etc come back my isha prayer was even lengthier because when i was trying to search i was i was doing more sajud i was doing longer qiyam and to do to ask god so called allah that give me light give me the guidance give me the light of the truth so show me and nothing every time i do research i went down the drain so finally i said there's no god full stop if the god cannot hear then there is no god and i told my wife and the first thing that came out of her mouth is don't tell me you're a christian i was like no no not at all every all of these are just man-made so and she said like don't be a christian at least you'll come back to allah soon but that is the time when we started to have some rift because now i was giving her the same kind of videos i was giving her the the debates i was giving her the uh videos of uh uh mr david wood and sam shimon by the way sam shimon is brilliant he's brilliant uh yeah i used to hate him but now i love him in a good way so i won't tell him sorry i'm not gonna tell him that you hated him okay good that's good because i don't want to hurt his feelings oh my goodness yeah if his feelings are certain things will be very bad for me hey by the way uh uh are you open to take a question or so yeah sure sure please i'm gonna put the question in front of you this is a muslim that is made a typical claim by the way typical claim that apparently you didn't know anything about islam so here it is i'm going to put it right here oh yeah i know him he he rejected my life debate with him multiple times and this guy is is uh i don't even want to say anything more i have asked him i do live debates as well i have asked him multiple times to come up and have a debate i have been a muslim for over 38 years of my life and i i was a devout muslim doing everything any muslim would ever do so once again anyone who says otherwise that i was not uh one guy one guy first claimed and he said like come on up and and uh offer uh let's recite quran and we'll see who can recite better i was like if that is your standard then come on up we will do that as well but that shouldn't be a standard because fifty percent of people cannot even recite quran but anyhow come live let's let's recite so these people whoever thinks that i was not a muslim come up i have no issue even like eighty percent of the muslims are seventy percent of the muslim i don't know they don't even recite any dua after adam i used to recite dua after adam every time and there is a specific dua allah do not tell me that i was never a muslim or i never knew about anything it's really an interesting uh you know argument they raise you know um it's it's always like you're a good muslim until you decide to leave islam all of a sudden you never knew islam you didn't follow islam so i'm i'm wondering what is the true definition in their mind of a muslim you know the quran the hadith make it clear that you have to submit to allah to the messenger that you have to believe in certain things and that you have to of course recite the shahada or believe in it in the first place that you have to pray you have to do certain pillars i mean and then what you know if if we take their definition of what a muslim is then like you said there's a lot of muslims that can't read the quran in arabic don't understand the quran in arabic don't even know how to do the right prayer sometimes because nobody taught them how to do it correctly and they cannot even recite many of the things that the prophet taught his muslim followers to recite in prayers and so on and so forth so so what is the definition of islam is this something that you hear all the time by the way yeah i hear a lot of things like these but at the end of the day to be a muslim you need to have know the shahada and there are five pillars of islam and salah fasting zakat and hajj if you have the money and these people like if you are doing all that you are already a muslim but like i was i can definitely say that i was far far more than just simple muslim and that's that's what it was but yeah so i think going back to our testimony because now it's done this guy i i'm willing to have a debate with him any day when he wants to uh you can go to my youtube channel you can see yeah i just brought him here uh to allow people to see the kind of uh stupid questions uh that people like him ask i mean it's the dumbest question you'll ever ask actually because if i would just to talk to him for five minutes i will expose the fact that he doesn't know anything about islam so if he's open for that i'll be more than happy to entertain him in arabic he can come to my show and i will skin him by the time i'm finished it will take five minutes only so that's an open debate for him right there so anyway um what happened next you know now you are into phase two of your journey to christ what else will happen yes this is the time when your video starts to come up and because now i was searching and my wife was shattered you are one of the most soft-spoken person in apologetics that i have yet seen and you have a huge emphasis emphasis on my wife's uh journey to the to the truth and i started giving her your videos because you know men reacts differently versus women and so i started giving her your testimony to begin with and then you were you were wearing the arabic dress and all that and it was like it was mind-boggling for her to listen to you and things weren't like things went in a different engine so anyhow three or four months down the road she was having a huge trauma we were going through very hard times at that time but i was sorry not three uh sorry one month down the road my same friend gave me the bible he's like why don't you now read bible and uh like this is also a false book everything is wrong here and it's like okay fair enough why don't you just pick up this bible just like quran and hadees you realize the issues give me the issues from this book now so there was a belief that you had previously now you have left that belief now pick up this bible and now why don't you do the same what you did with quran and hadees first time i opened the bible and i realized that bible is not just the words of jesus it is starting from the old testament the torah or there is there is zaboor in there already and there are so many other books which are written by the prophets and and the united kings and all i never knew that i never knew that so anyhow he opened up the new testament for me and uh i think if i'm not mistaken the first thing he said like luke chapter of luke that's what i read i realized how dramatic difference it is from the quran to the birth of jesus uh when mary is singing about being very nice for the birth of jesus versus mary in quran saying i should have dead should have been dead before before this child birth pain so then there is a difference of there is no infancy kind of a thing over there that jesus was speaking from in the in a childhood from the from the cradle and etc etc things things started to shape a little better uh at the same time now i started asking him questions on trinity in a different way previously i was simply mocking now i said okay explain me trinity uh once again the very hard topic to to explain uh most for most of the christians uh he introduced me with his pastor and then i go to this pastor and he would spend hours with me not just hour hours like sometimes it's like four to five hours we are talking this pastor was pretty calm in that he used to he used to listen he used to and after my testimony he actually told me that when i was telling you things i had no idea whether you were absorbing any of it because you were giving me rebuttals on everything yet i don't know when you were absorbing the whole situation is you guys has to this is for all my christian brothers and sisters who are listening provide the answers in the most beautiful manner that you can whoever is seeking so like i in the end i said whoever is seeking uh like you do not know who is absorbing and who is going to go back and do research further so anyhow by doing that the pastor moved me to john he said like let's start john uh this will give you more insight in he started from the john chapter one uh for the first chapter is blasphemy to begin with anyways uh obviously i was holding something in the back of my mind from the muslim scriptures even though that i i rejected muslim scriptures anyways anyhow a few chapters into john some prophecy came up and suddenly i started moving towards the prophecies okay uh there should be ample prophecies according uh and in this book and then my pastor gave me certain prophecies and then i started reading on the internet about the prophecies of the lord jesus christ and it was amazing how these prophecies were coming into effect especially why he was crucified like that was something that i needed to know uh if if this book is right then historical evidences should should provide that information as well and then i started reading the historical evidences of of the of the crucifixion of christ like different different historians stating about that and when when i when i when i started reading those uh strobel uh came up uh who who was an atheist and and he he wrote a book of case of christ and his video a movie came up and there were obviously other other uh like brought ed ehrman who was uh muslims favorite he also said though that the most certain fact of history is that the crucifixion of jesus and uh paula paula also said that but anyhow in the end jesus was crucified so there was a jesus guy who was crucified did it is up again now that's something that is fate but once again i cannot accept faith uh i was faithless already how could i do that so anyhow there was something in the back of my mind which was still saying that there was some superpower superhuman power which brought us to this world and that is when i one day called up the same pastor and i said hey pastor if i uh if i need to pray to your god how should i pray and um the pastor actually paused for a couple of seconds like uh what do you mean you just pray and i like no no no you need to tell me how like how should i cleanse myself where should i face uh what are the verses that i have to repeat what are the verses that i have to say while standing like how many posters like give me a book or an internet website tell me how should i pray to your god if i need to pray to your god once again your god and you know he he came back and he just he says like how would you speak to your father i was like i'll just go and speak he's like that's how you speak with your heavenly father like if he would have given me any theory or theological concept i would have never remembered it or never proclaimed it like this is the most powerful thing that he would have ever sent in the most simplest way like how do you speak with your father and that's that's when i came back home and i said i sat on my sofa and i said hi god father so if you are true god show me your light so amen anyhow two three days later i spoke to the same pastor again i was like dude i understand there was a guy jesus he died on the cross i have historical evidences i have seen the biblical critiques as well i read on that i see this book has some very powerful testimonies of jesus it's not possible that somebody writing way before jesus and then this guy coming up and doing exactly what it was uh how it was then he was crucified fair enough yes i have the dead sea scroll bible at home at that time as well founded uh verify it that yes in the older and it was carbon dated anyway so uh it these were written before christ to begin with but how do i trust that heroes he's like ask him call jesus ask him he is lord so he will show you i was like okay so now you want me to talk to jesus pray to jesus like yeah just ask him that's when i started for the very first time is like hey jesus hi if you are there if you are really god show me a sign show me a sign that you are living that's like seriously speaking i didn't had enough faith obviously i was just asking with the most doubtful heart ever and it's not just one day i think fifth or sixth or seventh day i was literally crying right next to my bed as like because i was going through different very disturbing time with my family at that time already with my wife and all the situation i was like you have to tell me otherwise it's done deal right like anyhow i kept on crying crying and i don't know when i fell to sleep and that's that's the time i in my dream everything was dark everything was dark and on the right side i saw him standing wow i saw him hallelujah hi louie yes thank you sorry it always gives me shivers in my body take your time brother not in a hurry take your time so i saw him standing and the only thing that i can say to him was lord raise up your hand and bless me and he did not i woke up i woke up and this was me oh my goodness i was so full of me that i woke up and i said this was my brain who was creating this it was nothing i was asking for signs still i was not believing and i was like ah nah that's that's just just me i went back to sleep same thing he came back on the right side everything is jet black white noory noory noory and i said please raise up your hand and bless me and he did not this time i woke up again and this time i was crying i like it's not possible unless he is god unless he has the authority over everything it's not possible twice in a row not possible same thing not possible i accepted him right there and then right there and then wow even though he did not bless you you at least recognize that the same dream you know happening twice in a row in the exact same manner that meant something to you exactly exactly okay and then what happened next day morning i wanted to tell my wife i could not in the evening i went to the same friend's house dropped my kids to him took my wife out and i told her i was like this is what happened last night i have read this this this this in bible i've read these all these things this is what happened i accept him as my lord and my savior full stop i am christian whether you call me christian whatever this is what i am this is who i am and i'm not going to back up now back down i my wife started crying we both started crying i prayed with her but once again she is still a muslim we went back we i gave my testimony to my friend as well he rejoiced we all prayed together and now i was only praying lord one more time come back and bless me that's all i'm going to ask never again i will not ask you to come back to my dream again i will never ask you to show my yourself again to me just one more time raise up your hand and bless me and i kept on praying for this slept he is so loving he came back he raised up his hands he blessed me this time he was close this time i did not wake up this time i did not wake up i don't know whether the whole night was five minutes long or whether that's the only thing i saw when i opened my eyes it was morning the most beautiful sleep i have ever had in my entire life never before never after thanksgiving hallelujah so you received the blessing um what did you do after that yes now it was for my wife so now i started working with my wife i was suddenly changed in a single day my wife like i was an angry man quite frankly my wife would say something to me i won't let her go that's how simple it is um i was so such full of these things because because my wife is is my wife i can have like four wives i can i can even beat her like i knew that people proclaimed that mr clarify you're talking when you were a muslim yes yes so now i was like i was changed i was fully changed my wife right now is in trauma basically because now she shouldn't be with me anyways she's a muslim she shouldn't be with me when you made that decision to follow jesus she's starting to face now tension to decide whether she stays with you or leaves exactly we were living in our home as brothers and sisters for many months like almost brother and sisters for many months this is the time when my wife could not believe how dramatically changed personality she is looking at now as me she had to go to the doctor and take prescription tension medication because she just cannot bear the tension like she was angry all the time and i was the most somehow politest person according to her she's like it's impossible for you to change in in an overnight and what have what like she even doubted that i have other girlfriends right now because i just simply changed i'm just so changed she just simply cannot bear and she simply cannot understand what jesus can do in your life that's and like for for months we worked together like i gave her things i gave her biblical things i gave her the apologetics thing your ministry was the one which she watched most and it is her testimony but anyhow three months four months down the road praise lord thank you and three four months down the road she said okay finally with all that i ha i i accept jesus full stop i have no way not to accept him now with all that what i have seen read what you have gone through how you have changed uh and and obviously at that time i was studying more and more and more from the biblical stuff plus i i made different presentations for my wife and and those presentations and those things are already on the internet on my on my website as well and four months down the road she also accepted christ and we got baptized together on the same day hallelujah amazing i i hope and pray that one day she uh will share her testimony whether in our show or somewhere else to encourage others of course that's important but uh in her timing that's amazing brother uh again uh everyone uh here you've been uh listening to the amazing testimony and journey to christ by our brother adam seeker and uh it's almost like we get two for one here uh you know uh yours and also the fact that your wife also accepted christ that's beautiful so uh since you became a believer uh what type of ministry if you are involved in ministry i should say what type of ministry have you been doing if you like to share of course yeah my i i do not have an association with any ministry uh unfortunately i didn't get a get a association with anyone but i'm just not what i meant your own i mean it doesn't have to be an association with anyone what are you doing to serve the lord right now because i i know you're doing activities on social media if you're like yes talk about that yes so i am i'm i'm i am showing the deception in the quran which the imams are doing so i am showing what the imams are telling you and what it's written in quran verses what the truth of asir are and that's what i expose so i expose the quran verse with the actual tafasir the authentic tafasir plus i show the hadeeses to combine with all that and i am working with muslims only praise lord praise lord that a guy like me who whose voice is not even hurt very high i have four testimonies through me praise lord for that uh four testimonies so far with me who who accepted christ and they were muslims praise god for that and and and i'm i'll keep on doing for as long as i can and as long as i will like one of the guy actually said show me your face and i was like i cannot you want to know what i am speaking or you want to know my face he's like you guys kill people like me he said no don't worry we'll give you three days so this is the reality of the situation that's why i can't show my face that's why it's a target you know i have a target behind my head and and my parents are bigger target if they can't find me they will go to my parents and they will capture them so that's that's how that's the reality of of of the situation and uh so yes so my my main mission is to work with the muslims because i know the scriptures inside out and especially from the last three years of my search i read even further i know what their initial beliefs are and at the same time during i missed in the middle i studied shiaism as well in a little bit because i said if sunni sunnism is wrong then might be shaism might be right because obviously there are there will be 73 sects of islam and only one sect of islam will go into heaven the rest will go into hell anyways so i went into that as well i went into minority sects as well but once again every like when the basic root level things are wrong which is quran and basic hadees the sex cannot do anything i read a bit of alcohol as well but like you just simply cannot deny the fact that muhammad was not a prophet and allah is doing things which which satan would do like i have uh like how can allah misguide how can allah send stray if allah is god his main purpose is to to guide everyone humans has to go astray i i asked this with my to my imam and he said okay ali said that raise up your right leg uh okay i raise up my left right egg okay now raise up your left leg as well uh i cannot he said this is the difference between destiny and uh free will that in your free will you can raise up your one leg but not otherwise like this doesn't make sense anyways he said this is okay now i have to back off a lot of things you have to just back off when you're talking with imams as a muslim because they will just push you to a corner where you cannot say anything more because they do not have the answers that is the major problem islam does not have the answers and that's why islam goes into into a a traumatic experience and and that's why when you start reading and try to understand you will not find the answers the only time you will actually find the answers are in the bible you will actually find everything which is in the bible which is going through a sequence of events and every prophet is saying something which the next prophet is doing till the end how can allah deceive people by by sending somebody else or by showing it as jesus on the cross but then wait for 600 years to send muhammad and say oh it was a deception or it was a shobah so in the in the arabic let's just say shubha because somebody will say subway is not deception so anyhow so why would allah wait for 600 years it's not possible like and when the historical evidence is saying that jesus was crucified how can you deny that fully and then then again like no matter how you pick up quran it's it's it will go into a trauma because you have to look into tafasi to understand what the quran is saying otherwise quran and what is tafsir the seed is actually trying to make sense of what the quran verse is saying if this if like let me take the cp's most prominent argument if the sun is setting in a muddy water it doesn't say as if the tough fear says as if if the sun is rising from among the place where the people have no shield upon them but the tafsir will define more but some of the seas will go into a very tangent because the the cereal jalala and says those people were namely negros who goes into the tunnels and when the sun is rising and then when the sun is on the top they come out that's the tafsir so it's it's crazy no matter how you pick up whatever in the quran you will go into a very strange tangent and and and the good verses which are earlier the abrogated verses and then the later verses which are talking about the fighting and all that it's it's just it's just not possible how you can reconcile them unless you say there's those who are abrogated or you say this was a contradiction if it is not a contradiction they have to take the take the stance of abrogation or abrigator and that's what is happening so my only ministry is to work with muslims to tell them the truth to show them the real quran and hadees and yes i hear a lot of abuse that's okay and i hear that i was never a muslim i hear that but that's the problem like whether i'm telling you what is in there or not if you like instead of saying kazab kazab kazab why don't you present me with the evidence if you have any that's the problem they will not present you with an evidence but they will only say right so we we have uh the same muslim friend who has really a powerful very powerful refutation to your entire testimony and i'm gonna show it to everybody to see how intelligent this guy is i mean it's amazing when you read his refutation you will be blown away so here's his refutation right here his refutation is how many years are between jesus and moses see how dumb these questions are i mean this guy who's probably from nigeria or from somewhere not an arab doesn't even know arabic his name is laughable by the way right now you look at his name that's not even a proper arabic name to even say it this way and allahu is not basically written that way i can even show you how to write it in arabic and in english and yet you're coming here asking these stupid questions so let me ask you this question then raheem how many years were between the time the quran was revealed for the first time and the canonized quran known as the cairo edition can you guess please tell us how many years 400 1400 to be precise so yeah this this guy like you can simply ask him tell me the same years from quran and he will not be able to do so that's how silly his argument is uh then they come back this guy or many other guys comes back that uh why do you celebrate 25th december okay so why do you celebrate 12th rabbi level or ninth review level shia versus sunni this is not even in quran as well so no matter like they will not go into the major problems of quran they will actually pick up these kind of things which have no meaning which have no connection to anything at all you need to see what the quran essence is saying if supposedly it is perfectly preserved which he is not but let's assume for the time being for the sake of argument that it is perfectly preserved then from the quran quran is destroying itself from inside the quran if quran is saying that it is abrogated or it's choose to be forgotten then quran is saying that it is perfectly preserved there is no meaning to be perfectly preserved there's no meaning because quran already denounced it so is it perfectly preserved in the local mafus then what is the purpose of that memphis book because that book is not even in the access of us there's no purpose for that book not to mention of course rahim doesn't even know that because he can't even read arabic uh you know allah fools you know the preserved tablets is like it has the word of allah that is uncreated that sounds like the trinity to me you have allah you have allah fools the preserved tablets and then the preserved tablets became incarnate in a book called the quran that has many errors in it that's that's amazing actually exactly exactly and at the same time quran actually uh gives more hints on that subject that uh isa was so of allah basically at the same time isa was khalik in quran it actually says that isa khalakh what the bird from the mud right allah created the adam from the mud so both created then allah blew the spirit into adam and then uh isa blew the spirit into adam into the bird so they are both creating in quran and that is why when allah says that allah we are the best of all creators creators in the plural form it says creators not creator we are the best of creators so like seriously um do you still need to know because i i tend to read a little more and i found out that in in bahira the rahab you guys actually need to search on bahira and see how he gave things to muhammad yeah so we we have another fascinating question by our intellectual uh scholar right here so he's saying is that your own trinity al-fadi let me ask you another question raheem explain the word ahad to me in arabic what is the word ahad mean in arabic when you find it in your own dictionary come back to me please and explain it to me because the word ahad in arabic means one of so your god is one of other gods that's funny because we don't know how many other gods are out there so go ahead and search man i mean we really want to help you hopefully you can show up again next time we'll have a field day with you it seems like it's going to be a lot of fun on ahad let me tell you in 90 up till 1990 in the islamic studies book of pakistan they used to write yakta yakta ins instead of one or eight they used to write yakta so the word yakta means uh unified so after 1990 they changed the islamic study books and they translated as one if you pick any islamic study book of pakistan of the course or inside the school they used to write yakta because aha does not means one ahad means vahid means one aha does not even means one is means unified so they can actually define it as yakta as well but like one off as well sir yeah well it was happening i mean his smart prophet probably heard the jews talking about echad basically the shema and he just that's how smart he is you know uh he he figured that out that oh that's what they mean by one not realizing really that the oneness is unique it has plurality in it in fact the same word was used in genesis 224 to describe marriage the institution of marriage for this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and cleveland to his wife and the two shall become one flesh to become one flesh and of course the smart prophet couldn't tell you know the difference between ahad and one anyway uh we don't want to waste our time on stuff like that but uh brother how can people um you know follow you again if you want to remind them yes they can go to my youtube channel which is uh youtube.com forward slash c forward slash adam seeker please subscribe i have adam seeker of truth.com and allah versus yahweh actually describes this ahad and the spirit of allah and unification of yahweh and all that it also has the sama israel yahweh ahad it also have the different verses about the ahad it also shows that spirit which is raw is not jibril because that's what it is and roh and malaika are coming down to the earth and etc there are multiple refutations because i went through all of these during my study so whatever i went through during my study i wrote it down for my wife and for my family members but then after some time i realized that there are a lot of muslims out there i need to go out and publicize it so there is no ministry of mine you do not have to pay me any money it's all there for free of course download copy paste do whatever you want to do share share the word this is adam seeker which is on youtube dot com adamseekeroftruth.com my website and adam seeker you can find on on facebook as well if anybody wants to have a live debate you are more than welcome as well i and if you can email me those links i'll make sure they are in the description box as well yes sir i will definitely do that and that and and that's that's my purpose my purpose is to spread the truth as so and also at the same time show the deception and the lies and right now we i just want to highlight one major important problem that is happening in pakistan one of the 13 years old child girl is abducted by ali who is 45 years old guy force married to him and forcefully converted to islam and the case is running in court but just like huma yusuf two years ago and the court of pakistan said that she is masturinating helps she is adult and this marriage is lawful and she was giving given back to her abductors she was 14 years old the same faith will happen with this litter so go to my youtube channel learn about that i have some videos on that share and spread let international channel push that in pakistan on pakistan so that this the faith of this girl will not be the same even if she gets released it's already been three weeks uh two two weeks even if she gets released she will have a trauma for her entire life i'm a father of a daughter i i can't even put my feet on that shoe so please please spread the news make more videos about that i don't know if somebody else can have a good ministry who can do something for her please do that that's my pledge amen brother amen that's wonderful and uh the uh moderators just notified me that also they've been posting your links so at least people will have him but go ahead and send them to me by email and make sure they're in the description box and i want to make sure that you and i will get in touch again to see if we can maybe do isolated shows on certain apologetic topics amen it will be my pleasure praise god and this will be the testimony for lord jesus and it will be my honor to do that amen and thank you of course for sharing your testimony and we praise god also that your wife embrace christ and uh everyone uh let me check and see if you we have any specific questions uh somebody was asking a normal question saying what do muslims have to lose when they come to christ and what do they gain after they come to christ i mean it's it's obvious what we lose we lose everything and we gain christ of course that's the most important thing but if any of you have any last question please last minute question please feel free to send it our way if i may answer this question go ahead go ahead absolutely go ahead what you gain is you gain salvation without killing anybody in jihad and dying in jihad so that is what you gain so what you lose is that in in as a muslim the only true way or known way to have jannah with with confidence of 100 person is when you actually go into jihad kill other people and only then you have a hundred percent surety that you will go into jannah as a follower of christ you do not have to go and kill non-believers you don't have to go there to kill and fight and die in jihad to get jannah that's what you will going to lose and that's what you will going to gain hallelujah now we know of course for safety reasons uh you didn't uh you don't wanna like your face out there but but where you at right now without telling any specifics of course do you feel uh safe at least or do you feel you're threatened meaning if you would walk out of your home are you threatened or are you at least for now safe for now i'm at least saved nobody knows who i am from my name so that is all good uh so yes that's that's the situation praise god for that i am working on some other things uh please pray for me that the lord will give me more safety so that eventually i should be able to show my face because i actually want to show my face but for as long as i have the association with that country i cannot uh once i do not have that association then i can amen wonderful and uh folks um uh before i close here i i want to thank our moderators and especially sister mariana for posting to you also about the upcoming online conference that we are putting together next week on friday the 6th by invitation only so you have to register by this tuesday if you're interested which is called track one you will see the link in there and if you go to my promo video yesterday that i did with jay dr j smith you will see the links as well and track one is on evangelism that's on friday by invitation only you have to go through a two-step process for that then track two and three on saturday november 7th uh the one in the morning will be uh apologetics the one in uh we'll have dr j smith and dr david wood and then there'll be panel discussion and the one in the afternoon it will be on biblical prophecy and the place of the arab world in there and we have a number of speakers who specialize in that field the one on um friday we'll have a number of former muslims uh followers of jesus and one of those that will be teaching sessions if you're interested please either click on the links that were provided for you here or go to my promo videos that i did the latest one of them was with dr j smith yesterday on october 30th and you will be able to get information the conference will start a week from now so hopefully we can see many of you and you'll end up of course getting a link to the recording if you register as well and uh wanna just update you i know a couple of days ago i was in our studios and uh we had a campaign to try to raise a hundred partners through patreon i'm pleased to tell you that so far eight have signed up we are down now to 92 so please continue to pray about sharing this with others and if you are a partner already through a patreon we thank you or even through any other means and if not we would love for you to consider to become one of our partners thank you so much because it helps us to do the things that we do get the equipments that we get and maintain of course our presence uh live and on air brother thank you so much and uh we will be in touch uh certainly to begin to plan for future shows together everyone thank you and uh we pray that you'll be able to join us soon uh you will watch me periodically between now and the conference day because we'll be doing a lot of promos and i'll be doing possibly another live stream if not even two between now and next friday november 6. thank you everyone god bless this is alfadi over and out

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Published: Sat Oct 31 2020