Alan Watts opens up about Religion - thought provoking video

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Worth watching. It’s nice 😊

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Rick watts?

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I took a Magic and Mysticism class when I was in college that covered a lot of this. It was an awesome class. Its really interesting how many religions were put together, but also how many small mystic sects and texts of β€œspirituality” there really is out there.

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Guilt and shame are disguises of the game.

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This one is really good I downloaded it I listen it every other day πŸ™Œ

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There’s a hour and a half long version that speaks on this that goes more in depth that I found. Its really good and interesting one of my favourites at the moment!

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a lot of people don't know how we got the bible at all we westerners got the bible thanks to the catholic church the catholic church and members of the church wrote the books of the new testament and they took over the books of the old testament which even by the time of christ had not been finally decided upon by the jews the jews did not close the canon of the old testament until the year 100 a.d or thereabouts at the synod of jamnia and then they finally decided which were the canonical books of the hebrew scriptures and embodied them in the masoretic text the earliest copy of which dates from the 10th century early in the 10th century a.d [Music] the books to be included in the new testament were not finally decided upon until the year 382 a.d again at the synod of rome under pope damasus so it was the church the catholic church that promulgated the bible and said we are giving you these scriptures on our authority and by the authority of the informal tradition that has existed among us from the beginning inspired by the holy spirit so you receive historically the bible on the churches say so and the catholic church insists therefore that the church collectively speaking under the presumed guidance of the holy spirit has the authority to interpret the bible and you can take that or leave it hindus believe that the vedas are divinely revealed and inspired with just as much further as any christian or any jew muslims believe that the quran is divinely inspired and some buddhists believe that their sutras are also of divine or rather a buddhic origin the japanese believe that the ancient texts of shinto are likewise of divine origin and who is to be judged so if the church says the bible is true it finally comes down to you are you going to believe the church or aren't you so really i won't deny anybody's right to hold these opinions you may indeed believe that the bible is literally true and that it was actually dictated by god to moses and the prophets and the apostles and that may be your opinion and you are at liberty to hold it i don't agree with you i do believe on the other hand that there is a sense in which the bible is divinely inspired [Music] but since inspiration always comes through a human vehicle it is liable to be distorted by that vehicle in other words i'm talking to you through a sound system and it's the only one now available now if there's something wrong with this sound system whatever truths i might utter to you will be distorted my voice will be distorted and you might mistake the meaning of what i said now so therefore everybody who receives divine inspiration and i'm using that in a very loose way but anybody who receives it will express it within the limits of what language he knows and by language here i don't only mean english latin greek hebrew or sanskrit i mean language in the sense of what sort of terms are available to you what kind of religion were you brought up with my opinion is the jesus of nazareth a human being like buddha like sri ramakrishna like ramana maharshi etc who early in life had a colossal experience of what we call cosmic consciousness now you don't have to be any particular kind of religion to get this experience it can hit anyone anytime like falling in love in greater or lesser degree but it's found all over the world and when it hits you you know it sometimes it comes after long practice of meditations and spiritual discipline sometimes it comes for no reason that anybody can determine we say it's the grace of god that there comes this overwhelming conviction that you have mistaken your identity that what you thought what i thought was just old alan watts was only completely superficial so you can very well understand how people to whom this happens feel genuinely inspired because very often that goes along with it an extremely warm feeling because you see the divine in everybody else's eyes when kabir a great hindu muslim mystic was a very old man he used to look around at people and say to whom shall i preach because he saw the beloved in all eyes the traditions of asia hindu buddhist taoist and so forth are full of miraculous stories and we take them in our stride we don't think that there are any sign of anything in particular except psychic power and i'm really a little scared of the growing interest in psychic power because that's what i call psychotechnics and we've made such a mess of things with ordinary techniques that heaven only knows what we might do if we got hold of psychotechnics and started raising people from the dead and prolonging life insufferably i mean the whole answer to the story of miracles is simply imagine that you're god now what happened the apostles didn't quite get the point [Music] they were awed by the miracles of jesus they worshiped him as people do worship gurus and it's you know to what lengths that can go if you've been around guru land and so the christians said okay okay jesus of nazareth was the son of god but let it stop right there nobody else so what happened was that jesus was pedestalized he was put in a position that was safely upstairs so that his troublesome experience of cosmic consciousness would not come and cause other people to be a nuisance and those who have had this experience and expressed it during those times when the church had political power were almost invariably persecuted guadiano bruno was burnt at the stake john scotus origin of his excommunicated meister eckhart's theses were condemned and so on and so on a few mystics got away with it because they used cautious language but you see what happens if you pedestalize jesus you strangle the gospel at birth and it has been the tradition in both the catholic church and in protestantism to pass off what i will call an emasculated gospel gospel means good news and i cannot for the life of me think what is the good news about the gospel is ordinarily handed down here is the revelation of god in christ in jesus and we are supposed to follow his life and example without having the unique advantage of being the boss's son born of a virgin knowing he's the son of god having the power of miracles knowing that basically it's impossible to kill him that he's going to rise again in the end and we are asked to take up our cross and follow him when we don't know that about ourselves at all so what happens is this we are delivered therefore a gospel which is in fact an impossible religion it's impossible to follow the way of christ many a christian has admitted it [Music] i am a miserable sinner i fall far short of the example of christ but do you realize the more you say that the better you are because what happened was that christianity institutionalized guilt as a virtue [Applause] and therefore you will always be aware of your shortcomings and so the more shortcomings you feel the more in other words you are aware of the vast abyss between christ and yourself so you go to confession and if you've got a nice dear understanding confessor you'll say my child you know you've sinned very grievously but you must realize that the love of god and of our lord is infinite and that uh naturally you are forgiven and you know you've committed a murder and robbed a bank and fornicated around and so on and the priest is perfectly patient and quiet well you feel awful to the love of god i have wounded jesus grieved the holy spirit and so on but you know in the back of your mind you're going to do it all over again you won't be able to help yourself you'll try [Music] but there's always a greater and greater sense of guilt this is the christianity of most people now there is a much more subtle christianity of the theologians the mystics and the philosophers but is not what gets preached from the pulpit what would the real gospel be the real good news is not simply that jesus of nazareth was the son of god but that he was a powerful son of god who came to open everybody's eyes to the fact that you are too and this is perfectly plain if you will go to the 10th chapter of saint john verse 30 there is the passage where jesus says i and the father are one there are some people who are not intimate disciples around and they're horrified and they immediately pick up stones to stone him he says many good works i have shown you from the father and for which of these do you stone me and they said for a good work we stone you not but for blasphemy because you being a man make yourself god and he replied isn't it written in your law i have said you are gods [Music] he's quoting the 82nd psalm is it not written in your law i have said you are gods if god called them those to whom he gave his word gods and you can't deny the scriptures how can you say i blaspheme because i said i am a son of god well there's the whole thing in a nutshell because if you read the king james bible that descended with the angel you will see in italics in front of this word son of god the son of god because i said i am the son of god and most people think that the italics are for emphasis they're not the italics indicate words interpolated by the translators you will not find that in the greek in the greek says a son of god so it seems to me here perfectly plain that jesus is gutted in the back of his mind that this isn't something peculiar to himself so when he says i am the way no man comes to the father but by me this i am this me is the divine in us which in hebrew would be called the ruach adonai so the point is that the ruach is the divine in the creature by virtue of which we are sons of or of the nature of god manifestations of the divine this discovery is the gospel that is the good news but this has been perpetually repressed throughout the history of western religion because all western religions have taken the form of celestial monarchies which is not the religion of jesus which was the realization of divine sonship but the religion about jesus which pedestalizes him and which says only this man of all the sons of woman was divine and you'd better recognize it utterly exclusive convinced in advance of examining the doctrines of any other religion that is is the top religion and so it becomes a freak religion just as it has made a freak of jesus an unnatural man it claims uniqueness not realizing that what it does teach would be far more credible if it were truly catholic that is to say restated again the truths which have been known from time immemorial which have appeared in all the great cultures of the world if then we can see this that jesus speaks not from the situation of a historical deus ex machina a kind of weird extraordinary event but he is a voice which joins with other voices that have said in every place and time wake up man wake up and realize who you are no scolding no rational demonstration of the right way to behave is going to inspire people with love something else must happen i feel then you see that it's enormously important that churches stop being talking shops they become centers of contemplation what is contemplation contemplum it's what you do in the temple you don't come to the temple to chatter but to be still and know that i am god and this is why if the christian religion if the gospel of christ is to mean anything at all instead of just being one of the forgotten religions along with osiris and mithra we must see christ as the great mystic in the proper sense of the word mystic not someone who has all sorts of magical powers and understands spirits and so on a mystic strictly speaking is one who realizes union with god by whatever name this seems to me the crux and message of the gospel summed up in the prayer of jesus which some john records as he speaks over his disciples praying that they may be one even as you father and i are one that they may be all one all realize this divine sonship or oneness basic identity with the eternal energy of the universe and the love that moves the sun and other stars [Music] 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Length: 18min 16sec (1096 seconds)
Published: Sat May 14 2022
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