Airline Pilot Breaks Down Scenes From FLIGHT (2012) | Mover Ruins Movies

[Music] what's up everybody its mover and welcome back to mover ruins movies a special feature of the channel where we take a look at certain scenes from certain movies usually aviation-related and talk about how it would have worked out in real life so trigger warning if you think movies or documentaries this is probably not the channel for you this is mostly tongue-in-cheek but I will point out some stuff that's realistic and stuff that's not so in today's episode we're taking a look at the 2012 movie called flight about an airline captain that saves an aircraft that has an issue a mechanical issue much like the Alaska Airlines flight 261 that had a jack screw malfunction unfortunately in real life though those that aircraft crashed and all the souls on board to perish but in this movie Denzel Washington plays the captain and he basically saves the aircraft but then an investigation ensues so we'll take a look at a couple scenes from the movie and kind of talk about how it worked in real life and how it was it I know I do a lot of fighter stuff but I am an airline pilot I've been flying the 737-800 and the max since 2016 so I have been doing this for a little while as well as my reserved gig in the air force reserve line t-38 all right we're looking at three of the scenes from flight this one they are just now meeting each other for the first time the captain and the first officer on this short flight we've long together I think so sir you sure yeah Kevin's that's pretty realistic I work for a fairly large airline and I don't think I've ever flown with the same captain more than once it just happens you fo first officer does you no walk-around pre-flight duties all this stuff gets everything set up and then the captain does his stuff and walks in and that may be the first time you've ever met so this is kind of a realistic conversation here I know prior to this he had smuggled some alcohol into his orange juice and probably wreaked of alcohol and you know that's one of the things that kind of hurts me about this is you know a good fo probably would have smelled the alcohol on his breath and gone yeah we're not flying today it's just a very serious thing and the thing about the first officer is it's it's a trained position these are experienced pilots you know is that the low-cost carrier which I think this is what this is supposed to be or at the legacy or major airline level they're very experienced they're not trainees they've probably either prior regional or prior military or charter or something they've got a lot of hours so they kind of treat this guy like he's a trainee here nice to meet you oxygen check checks no think so yeah you check the oxygen every flight I don't typically I take it out and check it and stuff but I don't typically take a hit of it it that is true 100% oxygen will make you feel better if you're hungover or not feeling great or something like that so that's you know the effects of 100% oxygen are true however would he offer it to his fo I mean that'd probably be a warning sign too right because the FO and the captain both have it on their respective sides and you know at this point that I was like man you're about to hear him I do not perilous time out I'm not flying with this guy so probably a little little weird for a captain to be offering a hit of oxygen like it's some kind of peace pipe or something but the folks face right here yeah then he just kind of throws to the side I don't know about this airplane but it actually is in a quick donning there's a box so to speak for it that's where it goes so you're just gonna toss it to the side and that's the biggest a Spain with the oxygen is put it back in the in the container there there you go that's a lot of flying and that's a realistic conversation thank you thank you thank you we're ready are you realistic you know they the usually it's the gate agent that comes up and says hey we got 169 souls on board and you know they're ready to close but the flight attendant can tell them that - they can close the door and at this point cockpit doors locked you probably won't see the flight attendant again until you know if you got to do a bathroom break or get meals or something like that so let's take a look at the next clip so this clip is the takeoff and we're kind of midway through the takeoff here and the FO appears to be the pilot monitoring so he in the way it works in the airlines you got a pilot flying and a pilot monitoring the pilot flying just flies just like the name suggests so the he's doing all the work in the controls and the pilot monitoring is talking on the radio picking the gear up up until they put the autopilot on the pilot monitoring is doing all the mode control panel stuff spending the altitudes been in the heading and stuff like that and the captain is just focused on flying and then once he puts the autopilot on then he can worry about you know putting stuff in the FMS and spinning buttons and stuff like that so he goes 80 knots cross-check and that's actually a call-out so it's a challenge in response almost I guess you can call it so the pilot monitoring would go 80 knots or 80 depending on airline you know standardisation and then the other pilot would go check to make sure his side also says that that's a good way to cross-check the different sources for airs rainy and wet he's jibber-jabber this looks a lot like a 737 cockpit yeah so that's realistic positive rate so you got a positive rate of climb and the pilot flying calls for the Giro realistic radio calls so he says don't want autopilot I'm flying today and typically that's not even a discussion he just decides if he wants to put the autopilot on he reaches up and hits it and if he doesn't he doesn't so the FOS face on this is just I mean I know they did it for theatrics and again everything I say here this is just a movie so this is not hating or anything like that it's just a movie but this is you know he wouldn't be like all right I guess you're flying you know okay no problem but he wouldn't be the one to put the autopilot on at least my airline I don't know what airline's doing my fleet it may be different amongst other fleets this is 737 experience only I'd say Sevilla definitely yeah severe turbulence there's actually charts for the levels of turbulence and severe turbulence is no kidding you have no ability to control the aircraft so I don't know this is severe turbulence and I don't know that the captain would be the one again it's the pilot monitoring job to talk on the radio although sometimes captains will you know chime in just to give them something if they don't you know want to say hey tell them this which okay very valid but yeah it's probably not severe at this point and again they really wouldn't if it's this bad and they're in the nones thunderstorms they usually shut down the departure corridor so they wouldn't fly you into this in the first place they would either if they could turn the airport around so takeoff on a different runway and do a different departure to get away from this weather or do something else because they really wouldn't knowingly fly into this stuff and if they were most captain's would go yeah we're not taking off into this just for safety because the biggest threat here is wind shear and we trained for this and the simulators all the time you know we're severe downdrafts microburst stuff like that where you know it's very dangerous and you can end up losing altitude lift etc very quickly no meal service today and you don't always have meal service on every flight it just depends on how long the leg is how far how far you're going stuff like that I mean it not necessarily whether it's bumpy [Music] yep I was looking at him because he seems like this dude's definitely going on my do not pair list I'm not flying with this guy again so that's a looks like a enroute chart you usually wouldn't fly with that although this is back in 2012 I don't know what they were doing back then but usually you just have your iPad up there's no reason to have the Unruh charter but this is pretty cool just taking a look at this I really think this was the 737 cockpit because this looks identical to the in G's that I've flown so what you've got here is you know you've got your two airspeed your ground speed your wind direction and speed so they got 17 knots they're flying south they even put the weather on here and then they've got all these little airports and stuff so they did a really good job with attention to detail on this and I know this will be a factor here in a second this saying but to get this looks like it says T cast off that's probably not a good thing but I kind of think this is I mean if this is not a 737 then the mad dog that they're making this out of looks identical all right so this is interesting red is bad obviously so this is all connective weather stuff like that they're going to RL and they've got the hides up which you typically wouldn't have but this will become a factor later when they'll say I'll remember to point this out but they go hey we lost our hydraulics well you've got it gauge right here this will tell you if you lost your hydraulics but so they're climbing up and he's wanting to shoot the gap which yeah not a great idea but you know I mean you got you don't really he doesn't have the option to go around it I guess as you'd want to usually want you know 20 miles on either side of a storm before you try to to do that as a minus mu this one right over them - right - 30 degrees the partier 77 need to be be 30 degrees right the weather for weather yeah they make this out to be something way bigger than it is usually the F oka or the Platte flying goes hey I need to go let's go right let's go around it and then get fo go hey let's go Center whatever southjet whoever these guys are two to seven request deviate right for weather and they go hey deviate right for weather approve let me know when you're back on course not a big deal usually ATC they're very good especially low altitude and even at high out they're very good at pointing out you know moderate to extreme areas of precipitation what other airliners have done if you need to deviate let us know you know and sometimes even vectoring year-round so this wouldn't really be that big of a deal and the captain wouldn't have to tell him for weather I mean obviously it's for weather everybody knows it's for weather yeah I mean that's what's what they would say though I mean you know brother they're really making the fo look like a dunce though Oh Lord this part one he's straight-up lie to the guy we're leaving on a matter thousand for the whole winning zero for protein I'm at similarity damn right we need to speed up let's do this friend no no so most airliners have maxed turbulence penetration speed gating the it's the fastest you want to go especially around barber pole and the red ticker tape there you don't want to over speed the aircraft and in turbulence and whether you want to slow down which again for structural components of the aircraft and maintain and actually for the people in the back to you slow down which allows you to climb faster and in a turn you would get up above it faster you wouldn't want to level off and go punching through this that's that's not the right answer you want to climb up out of it because higher is typically better with stuff like this because the thunderstorms you know obviously you can't out climb a one with max tops of fifty thousand feet but if you can get above some of the rough air it's usually better so I don't think you'd really want to level off here and speed up especially not around the operating limits because any little pocket of turbulence can put you right over their structural limits of the aircraft and now now you've got a problem because you're into the clacker and you know it's it's it's not good [Music] Jr this is a great captain departure this is southjet do to seven we're experiencing some rough air sit down we're an online now and now he wants to climb the line and he's pushing the throttles up now you wouldn't really hear it in the cockpit I mean it doesn't make that big of a noise change especially on this where the engines are way in the back ah clear air there's the chart there these flying around with over I don't know if people will be clapping but these are the same people that probably clap it a good landing why are you clapping stop clapping all right let's look at the next one and this is the crash scene so captain's been asleep I guess from the vodka he had flight attendants don't usually just hang out the cockpit like this that's what she said why are they not all strapped in here she's talking apply two coats those down Oh power backs good good idea [Music] [Music] this is southjet two to seven we've lost our hydraulics and feels like our kid control why is he in such a hurry to tell atc and you don't even know that you I mean ATC can't help you with hydraulics they don't know okay so you're in a deep dive here and she's just walking back and forth from the cockpit willy-nilly she would not be in the loop on this and I know it's a movie I mean that's it's just the way they wrote it but she would not be she'd have probably run right into the center pedestal and the throttles if she tried to come back in the cockpit like this and he says he lost hydraulic remember I was talking about earlier you've got a gauge so you know if you've lost the hydraulics it's not just oh well based on the controls I think we lost the hydraulics you can check it out you can look he really wants to tell ATC everything everything you got speed brakes to give everything door comes off yeah that's what happens when I mean it can't happen when you over speed the gear like that bracing a little bit early at 20,000 feet so not sure about the fictional Mad Dog in this movie but the real mad dogs and the 737s and I think most of the air buses air by don't have fuel dumps and I know the mad dogs don't have winglets and also you typically don't have your shoulder harnesses on at altitude usually just right around the lap belt and then for takeoff and landing he really wants to tell ATC everything that's going on a v8 navigate communicate he wants to communicate Seifer okay manual reversion I guess that goes to like the cable pulleys or something that photo is like a huge nervous Nellie and now Margaret from the back again doors closed she can't get up there I [Music] should have had a jump seater I would have made it more realistic I guess fuel dump is approved we already dealt sorry guys and the magical fuel dumps we didn't have yeah she'd be tumbling down the aisle right now okay on the count of three I want you to pull it up throw that clockwise push it back down ready - three Network [Music] Oh oh man now she's down I mean when I say I want to retract the flesh top gun mullet right here trim us nose down okay what everything's gonna be aa to do what pull power he's gonna go inverted in the bike the cockpit voice recorder which I guess is part of it look how slow its rolling so if you roll that slow at that altitude it just changes your impact angle there's not enough altitude to even if they've completed the roll to go inverted like this and unfortunately this is what Alaska 261 tried but they just there's just not enough altitude to do it Eric's 700 feet so they're going through 700 feet throwing the gear up and they'd have been a smoking hole by now [Applause] I don't think a modern airliner I know text Johnson did the 707 roll but I don't think a modern airliners got the nose Authority the elevator Authority or the wing it's a sustained inverted flight like this and especially not the roll rate to do it in the altitude they're doing I mean they'd have just been a smoking hole that just rolled a little bit it's just too slow for a transport category aircraft and it certainly won't maintain level or climbing flight it just doesn't have the wing for ya this won't happen they're maintaining altitude I don't I don't see that happening with the camber of the wing and I don't know why he needs to tell them they're inverted that's low oil pressures realistic because of where the pick ups are however you'll see here in a second it causes some other you know there's a fire light so I don't know if they're trying to say that the low oil pressure because they say here in a second that the engines are burning up I don't think low or no oil no oil pressure will immediately cause a fire I mean maybe over time but in the time that they've been doing this I think the engine that would keep running and then when the finally when when it finally ceases then you might have maybe a hydraulic fire or something like that but I don't think it would cause a fire this quickly so he shuts down was that the number one engine they're inverted [Music] so now he's got one engine and now the other engine and he pulls the he pulls that so once he pulled the fire handle what that does is it shuts down the fuel and the hydraulics it shuts the engines down so at this point they have no engines and no thrust yeah full power is not gonna happen when you just pull the fire handles even if you don't fire the bottles the models release the agent that puts out the fire even if you don't do that it still shuts everything off to the engine as soon as you pull that handle oh geez and they definitely didn't have the altitude to roll so as soon as they start this they're gonna knife-edge into the ground not at a thousand feet in an airliner yeah the engines are already gone there's there's no full power but hey just a movie right there's no engine fail light that's awesome and now the hinges are finally rolling back this fo is terrible just screaming oh and now they're gliding so whatever problem they had is now suddenly fixed because they're just gliding and not diving towards the ground so they're obviously not the Jack Sparrow and of course there's a church or out in the middle of the field oof time compression does happen in emergencies no grace minimums I don't think minimums would have been set and that sounded a lot like an Airbus [Music] and that's the end of it so okay so it's just a movie I know it's Hollywood the rest of the movie is about the hearings and denzel's struggle with alcoholism and all that stuff there are programs I believe it's called the hems program that can help you if you have alcohol problems obviously aviation takes it very seriously in the military it's 12 hours bottle the throttle in the civilian world it's eight hours and even in some airlines it's twelve hours they've actually got their own policy for that and they're spending pilots there there have been instances of pilots taking breathalyzers and the legal limit in aviation is quite less than the legal limit for driving than the 0.08 standard so him struggling with alcohol okay him flying after taking a couple bottles from the galley which becomes a factor in the movie no the FO not speaking up probably not although you know it is possible maybe he's new maybe he's on probation stuff like that but I didn't get to watch the whole movie but it's got a cool opening scene that I can't talk about on YouTube because of reasons and it's just a moving so hope you enjoyed this video thanks for watching we'll see you next time [Music] No [Music] if I were the daughter [Music] don't be a douche rule number one [Music]

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Length: 26min 17sec (1577 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 18 2020