Abuse, Death, And Dooms Day : Ex-Jehovah's Witness Speaks Out

welcome aboard and thank you for checking out the channel this is Giants amongst us where we sharing a unique Human Experience and where you're going to hear real stories told by real people people just like yourself now I know YouTube is a video based platform but I thought this would still be a good idea to use in order to share stories from people that I've connected with all across the world coming from different backgrounds having different struggles and issues but the underlining theme is the fact that they found it within thems somehow some way and at some point to change their situation to be accountable and responsible for their experiences and with that came New Opportunities came New Beginnings came a rebirth so to speak so this channel right here is an extension of a podcast that's already available you can find it on whichever streaming platform you like to plug into like the spotifi the deers the audibles you can find it there just punch in Giants amongst us and there's also a website available and you can go check out what's going on on that side of the woods and see if it's something that you find valuable and if you do you can add it to your program and as mentioned this is an extension of a podcast that's already available so if you want to listen to the conversation in its entirety unfiltered you can check out the links in the show notes in the description box and it'll lead you to where you'd be able to plug in and listen to it unfiltered but for now what you'll find here on YouTube are bite-sized pieces something that you could throw on in the background as you're doing whatever it is you're doing around the house washing cleaning cooking um brewing your coffee and in the morning or even as you drive to and from work whatever your heart desires and today for starters a story that I wanted to share with everybody comes from a man who was brought up as a Jehovah's Witness he says that his doctrination started before he was born because as his mother was carrying him in her womb there were tapes and there were sermons played to already start the conditioning from the fetus child a teenager then to an adult his whole world revolved around a governing body the ruling Council of Jehovah's Witness there's a whole lot to unpack and this man does a great job with breaking down everything in detail from the death and the abuse that's going on in this organization for some it'll be an eyeopener I know for me it was and also the trauma that was instilled in him early on that Doomsday the prophetic teachings of Armageddon soon to come at an early age this is something that was always in the back of his mind traumatizing him to the point where he said at 10 years old he was already suicidal raised as a Jehovah's Witness his whole life revolved around that organization and after listening to his story I'll let you decide whether you think this is a righteous religion or a cult just recently a couple of years ago he separated himself from the organization and because of it he lost everything family friends the world as he knew it everything was pulled from him his family and friends they excommunicated themselves from him the world as he knew it stripped but he had his truth he had his conviction and there was an Awakening but it came with the price that's why he wanted to share this story he's angry and rightfully so that's what we need more of we need more of some righteous anger so this man was eager he was passionate about sharing light on what's really going on behind the curtain and like I said after listening to this you can decide for yourself whether you see it cultish or not ladies and gentlemen this is FS in his story comes down to a matter of opinion on what a cult is but I think that uh there's check boxes and they check those boxes so we can call it a cult I was definitely yeah I was born into it uh they they encourage indoctrination in the womb they encourage parents to listen to tapes and things like that out loud while they're pregnant uh so yeah my indoctrination started before I was born how was that as a child living with that guilt or that feeling like he's over you at all times watching your every move uh to be honest it made me conclude I would not get into the new world easily I was just like I'm like I'm not good enough I never felt I was good enough so I just concluded I'm not getting into the new world which sort of led to a host of behavioral problems because it was around this time when I started having that thought which was like 8 n 10 I'm like I'm not going to make it I was also studying the Revelation book which said basically the way they implied it was that the end of the world is coming like super super fast and I was under the distinct impression it would come before I turned 18 and this is 20 some OD years ago um they actually put it in print that the end of the world would come before the end of this century and they did that in about 89 so me I'm I'm told that everything I'm learning in this meeting is the truth I'm eight years old and they tell me that the end of the world is coming before January or December 31st 1999 so that fear of armagedon of every single person who's not a JW will be destroyed and just like living in that every single day it's like being in The Walking Dead Man wow it could happen any minute anytime there was a thunderstorm growing up a large snowstorm super windy days dark clouds that kind of freaked the hell out of me I always thought it was the beginning of like this Slaughter that we had all been waiting for like they are an apocalyptic death cult like you would not believe it made me suicidal big time as a child the first suicidal thought I had I was 10 years old 10 years old there was people that that were in your circle they ended up taking their their lives because of the just you know because of these type of things yeah like I'll just cover all of the death in the organization and the things that I feel that they're responsible for so you have in the very very beginning I think even before they recall Jehovah's Witnesses they didn't adopt that name until the 20s um they were called the Bible students but I believe I don't remember exact dates but there was a time where they kind of said vaccines are wrong we're talking like polio vaccines and like stuff that like the science is pretty sound on some of the vaccines that were developed back then right it's like we don't have certain diseases today because of that they denied that for a while and eventually said that was okay so we're when we were talking about death you can probably guarantee somebody died because of that teaching in the' 70s they said that um organ transplants were cannibalism and they said you should not do it and it was for about a 10 or 11e period um that you could pretty much guarantee some people lost their lives and then at the end of that period they just said you know what we're going to call this a conscience matter so now if you want to get that it's a conscience matter and of course every single person there's been zero people whove chosen to not get an organ transplant as far as my understanding like correct me if I'm wrong if anyone knows but I definitely call them responsible for that death because like i' mentioned you before if you you only had two choices you took the organ transplant and lost all of your friends and family because they would be forced to shun you or you didn't and you died either way you're suffering a physical or virtual death um and then they said that um for for a long time they had forbidden blood right so like they still do no blood transfusions but there was a certain point I think in the 80s where they said um certain fractions of these blood you can take and it was like it opened up the door to a lot of treatment that initially like if you see like that all the people that might have died before that point because that door was closed and I find that they are definitely responsible and blood guilty for that and they also have no biblical backing for this teaching they just pulled it out of their ass they're like well these like they've talked to doctors and every single doctor's like whatever like you guys are insane for these things like saying that this Blood fraction's okay but not blood is or and having blood is is not okay but this like fraction of a fraction yeah that's fine it's like it's all blood it's just components of it right it's like it's silly to keep going with the death thing um they started to allow subcomponents of blood and everyone who died before that I would say that they're blood guilty for that another part of what I consider the blood guilty for is there's this Scandal that was called the Mexico Malawi Scandal and it came down to political identification cards and Army service or something to that effect but basically the from the governing body they said no the people in U Malawi are not allowed to own or purchase a political card now it was a dictatorship at that time so basically it would be like if Putin ruled the world and he says I want $10 and you'll get a card that says you are part of the Putin party which you have no choice he's a dictator and that's what's going on in malow they had to like everyone was under the same government they just had to pretend like they were supporting it willingly with this card now the governing body said don't don't do that and because of that people were raped and killed and I consider the organization responsible for those deaths and rapes and it's a pretty horrific thing now how that translates and why I mentioned Mexico is because a similar thing was going on in Mexico where I think they had to sign up for military service or something they had to have a card that said I did military service but they could just brive their way to get that card they could just they don't have to do any military service they could just flip a thousand pesos and yeah here we'll give you a card that says you did it you know there's a bit of a connection there saying on one end I'm allowed to have this card saying I did something for the government on the other end I'm not and people are literally dying and being raped because of that so I would say that the organization is responsible for some Horrors in that aspect for the final moment of like what what kind of deaths I would consider them responsible for is like I mentioned I lost a few friends to Suicide People I knew personally people I worked with for years uh people who I was friends with I went on vacation or not vacation but you know work trips with for days and days I know these people and they ended their life because of the shunning they couldn't handle so I would say that the governing body and Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization are responsible for the orphans that were made by that the people who lost their daughter people who lost their brother Uncle Etc like all all all that loss I blame the organization for so Grant total they have a lot of death in their hands and that concludes the full portfolio of the death then we were talking about some of the things that been known to go on in in um some of the cases that they've had not even some of but probably many where you have uh children that are uh being abused I can I can kind of do it this the same way I had covered death from the beginning of what I'm aware of to where we're at now um so the original policies which did a lot of damage you know throughout 50s 60s '70s 880s was the there had to be two witnesses to a crime in order for the elders to take action and since it's such a closed community anytime crimes or accusations of crimes come come up it goes to the elders it doesn't go to police or anyone else it's like we got to take this issue to the elders so if a child went to their parent let's say and said this person touched me in this way that would go to the elders and then the elders would form a tribunal so they have three Elders in a committee and they would interview the child I would hopes with the parent present I've heard of times when the parent wasn't they would get into very explicit details graphic details with this child they would have to determine whether the child was a willing participant and that's a legitimate real thing that that was part of their instructions from bethl was to find out if the child was a willing participant wow no way yeah it's pretty shocking when you think of it um and disgusting obviously I mean how can a child have consent exactly so like they they might say you know like I don't even want to get into their mental gymnastics it's just gross it's just gross it's like we're talking about adults praying on children and they still want to find out if the kid was willing some of these things have been kind of muted over the years where they're probably not as intense I'm pretty sure nowadays every time an accusation like this comes up the parent will be present I don't know if that's true I sincerely hope so but they've also changed it so that you had one witness or two witness rule right where two witnesses had to be witnessed to this crime so if the child said hey mom somebody touch me they could go to the elders and it would just be a matter of this child versus this adult saying he did this the adult could say no I didn't and that's as far as it goes and back in the day since it was you know and still two witness Rule still abounds like they still go by this if there wasn't another witness to it the guy would just walk and like in Australia I mentioned to you that I think over were in the in the last 50 years since a certain date in the 1950s 6070s or so there's been about 100,000 jws in Australia and they found that there was a thousand plus cases of individuals accused of abuse that never like not one of those got investigated and that ended up being like still 1% of jws basically in Australia were pedophiles that never got that never got investigated unbelievable yeah and all of that came to light during the Australian Royal commission where they were investigated part of as part of the whole government investigating multiple religions and they got grilled pretty hard like they lost some serious face like many jws are on the xjw Forum because they saw what was going down in Australia and in fact like that's one of our primary ways to try to wake people up is to say you got to look into the arc the Australian Royal Commission because like it'll blow your mind you can see like the governing body these people who are leading you they get interviewed by judges they're being deceptive they're being sneaky with their language Cy like they won't give a straight answer and they get like called out on a multiple times embarrassed like these are people leading Millions with absolute obedience and they're embarrassing so yeah recommending that so anyways that's part of the child abuse Scandal they've also were investigated into in the UK uh one of the things I found interesting about the UK investigation it it was called EXA I believe it was International inquiry into child sexual abuse I believe um that one they found they investigated a bunch of religions and some of them actually had like no child abuse problems and it was something that was very interesting to see as a JW because I was kind of waking up when I was reading this and I was told you know it's like well you know we you can't blame the organization for child sexual abuse because it happens everywhere and I was just seeing the statistic that no it doesn't because you got to understand jws are true believers they believe God chose them over anybody I almost called him J that would have been great um they believe God chose them above everybody so all of this is like a you know they're the special people so they shouldn't have any child sexual abuse and it's provable by statistics that there are organizations without it so how do you tell me that your religion is the one true religion and then they also tell you that all other religions are controlled by Satan so somehow Satan can run a religion without child sexual abuse but Jehovah can't right and that's the reason why they don't want people looking into these things they don't want people questioning the doctrine starting to questioning the governing body because literally you pull a thread man and that sweater comes apart like you paid five bucks for it it's like it their Doctrine falls apart so insanely fast that their only hope is Extreme information control so Pennsylvania did like that did happen earlier this year yeah I'll go through that actually so basically I think there was 14 plus JW some of them were Elders that were arrested for you know pedophilia and it's an ongoing investigation um one of the guys ended his life before he could get arrested so you can take that as a innocent or guilty plea I'll leave that up to you so yeah I was going to say like this is an ongoing investigation like they set up they set up their own phone number for this investigation so like they had they said if you were a JW you have experienced anything it doesn't matter where from like they wanted to hear from people any part of the country it's like just starting to unfold but some of the facts that were interesting from this case um I mentioned to you before that you know obviously obedience is a huge thing obedience to the governing body and they talk about obedience to elders and they want you to mirror that the same amount of obedience you would give to your leaders should be the same as what you give to these elders and why that was a dangerous thing is because some of these um pedophiles ended up being elders and they were using situ ations within the congregation to isolate and abuse children um jws often times say that the child sexual abuse within their organization is not institutional like the Catholics where you would have kids dropped off at Sunday school and there's 20 kids around a priest obviously you can molest one so they say yeah we're not like that but what they do have is like these Service Groups well they'll have 20 people and then they'll break off into four groups of four and often times you know back in the ' 80s especially parents would their kids just go with an elder go with whoever because they trusted them implicitly trusted them and part of the reason why they implicitly trust them is because jws believe Elders are literally appointed by holy spirit that the Holy Spirit has something to do with them getting assigned as an elder in their congregation so if you combine Holy Spirit appointed with I want that you to obey them as much as you obey the leaders and then you combine that with a JW pedophile who's praying on these kids in these Service Groups groups it just amounts to one big disgusting cluster I guess I don't know what else to say I'm just mentioning kind of like the big issues like they've gone through some class action lawsuits I think there's one going on in Canada and Quebec I believe an interesting thing that just came up is uh I believe it's New Zealand is investigating they're doing the similar thing to what the UK did with exxa and Australia with Australian Royal commission they're doing like basically a Countrywide investigation into churches and institutional abuse now Jehovah's Witnesses this interesting fact are the only ones who were being counted as being investigated who tried to get out of it they actually sued to get out of being investigated for child abuse and they lost thankfully and will be included in the investigation but it's it just shows the level of arrogance these people have even with the admissions in Australia of how many pedophiles they let slip through the net how many children got reused and abused wor because they let them off because you need that two witness rule again it's just Insidious man like once you woke up and you said you know what F this I'm I'm out and you wrote your letter I don't know is it safe to say you had no outside friends no worldly friends beside every people in the organization that's exactly what they're called is they're called worldly friends um they they call they call worldly people worldly people and you are encouraged to not make friends with them I followed that encouragement so I never had a single worldly friend like I I've made a few friends over you know gaming and a few so you had a start from scratch oh I'm still at scratch man wow this was how long ago uh it's a couple years ago since I've disassociated but it's like it's it's very hard when you're like you know I'm not I'm quite middle-aged is but it's like you don't have a single friend Co is around yeah it's extremely is ating my closest friend was the guy who ran the convenience store next to me for a few years cuz it's like that's all I had you're already out you're physically out you're mentally out but what have you found to to help you like you said you're still you're at scratch you're at you're at level zero starting back up I mean you have any you have any things that that are helping you build and just you know move forward yeah that's well um and here's where I would love to give advice to anybody who's in my in that situation but I don't have a time because it's the truth is it's honestly incredibly difficult to start scratch one of the things that makes it really hard is all of a sudden these people that you looked at that were worldly that were dangerous possibly under the influence of Satan are now your only friends and family and trying to trying to drop that Veil that screen you see that lens you see through where I see you as a worldly person as somebody who's potentially dangerous potentially trying to lead me into trouble it takes a long time to drop that lens and learn to trust people who were not Jehovah's Witnesses that's all you can now and it's a very difficult thing like I I did kind of start to make one friend and he like scared me a little cuz like he you know was showing some different sides to himself and it's just like I'm like oh is this like you know and it just kind of knocks you back because it reminds you of your training like these people are dangerous to you so it's like that immediate trigger like made me think oh this person's dangerous but I wrote it out and it's just like you know what he's just the same as everybody else we all have our faults whatever right and it's like that's all it was it was just like my initial reaction was the pre-program so a little bit to get past that pre-programming and to start to trust people and start to start to you know really be a human again because jws they are not really humans they essentially have any potential and any desires any worldly desires any any desire to grow as a human being is scooped out of them and what's placed in them is a watchtower salesman who is going to wait for God to do stuff for them so they just wait and they preach and they go to meetings and they wait and they preach and they go to meetings there's no soul there's no life thanks for sticking around I hope you enjoyed some of this conversation and like I said if if you want to listen to it in its entirety feel free to head on over to Giants amongst us.com or to follow that link which will send you to whichever streaming platform you like to plug into and feel free to leave any thoughts feedback or add something to the conversation in the comments below that's always welcome and if you found any value in this at all be sure to stick around there will be more we'll be sure to catch up next time and one more thing if you would like to be a part of the show and share your story or even a story of someone in your life that has impacted you in a positive way you could always reach out to me via email I'd be happy to connect until next time and very soon peace looking for a sign to know I'm on the right Road ain't seen [Music] no

Channel: Giants Amongst Us

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Keywords: cult, child abuse, podcast interview, real stories, shunning, exjw

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Length: 24min 48sec (1488 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 21 2024