WINFREY: Yes. What happened to you? Mrs. BUSCH: Well, I got up on my birthday-- on July 17th, and I wasn't feeling--feeling very well. I was kind of feeling under the weather. And I took some medicine and I found out I was deathly allergic to it, and I didn't know at the time. And I paged my husband and from there on I just started going in and out, I started to black out. And the next thing I clearly remember was being in the hospital, I knew I was there, I could hear things but I wasn't really conscious. And then the next thing after that I remember was seeing myself on the emergency table and they were working on me, trying to revive me. And I... WINFREY: I keep trying to have one of those experiences without having an accident or anything. (Laughter) WINFREY: So I keep trying to--I say, `Let me leave the body. Let me leave the body.' But--so I want to know, when you leave, do you--I mean, when you leave, are you con-- conscious that you left? Mrs. BUSCH: Yes, you know, but you don't understand why. You're kind of in limbo. WINFREY: So who's on the table then? Mrs. BUSCH: You're down there, but your conscious mind is up above looking down going, `Why am I down there and up here at the same time?' WINFREY: Oh, really. Mrs. BUSCH: You can't figure out--where are you? What are you doing? When I'm right here, but I can see myself down there, it doesn't make sense. WINFREY: Do you think, `I must be dead'? Mrs. BUSCH: You--I, at the time, did not know. I couldn't understand because I didn't remember what happened to me. I couldn't remember anything. WINFREY: OK. Mrs. BUSCH: And then I started hearing conversations. I went to look for my husband because that would be the first person I would look for. I saw him talking to the doctor about me. And I started listening in. What are they talking about? And they saying `We're doing everything we can for her but we don't know.' And, of course, my husband got upset. And I saw--I have four children. I saw what my children were doing. WINFREY: What were they doing? Mrs. BUSCH: They were kind of running around like four children would do. (Laughter) WINFREY: Uh-huh. Mrs. BUSCH: And the doctor just said, `We're doing everything we can.' And he turned around and left. And I watched to see what my husband was doing. And he was kind of upset, and he was talking to the kids. And I followed the doctor back into the emergency room, and they kept saying, `I don't know, you know, what to do with her.' And, you know, `I don't know what the problem is.' And they'd gav--they gave me an eppi-- it's called an Epi shot, if you're allergic to, like, bee stings and things like that. They were trying to bring me out of it. And I--I guess it didn't work right away, and it took some time to bring me out. WINFREY: Now, when did you see your grandmother? Mrs. BUSCH: After I talked--after I saw the doctor talking to my husband, I kind of drifted off for a while and I--I guess I closed my eyes. And all of a sudden, the next thing I remember was standing there and I saw this long hall and this bright, white light and lots of clouds. And then all of a sudden I saw my grandmother and I freaked because I knew she passed away 13 years ago. Mrs. BUSCH: (Voiceover) And then I really panicked. I thought I must be dead, how else would I see her. And I remember... WINFREY: You saw her--saw her body in human form? Mrs. BUSCH: I saw her standing right in front of me, clear as a bell. And she looked wonderful. And I--I said to her... WINFREY: That's good, 'cause I often wonder on the other side with all the spirits, with everybody being the same and all the spirits and souls being the same, it would be hard to recognize people. Mrs. BUSCH: Oh, it was very clear. WINFREY: Very clear. Mrs. BUSCH: I knew who she was. She came right up to me and said, `Cindy, you--you shouldn't be here. You--you go back and take care of your family. It's not your time.' I kept saying, `Grandma, why an I here?' And she said, `There's been a--there's been an accident, but it will be explained to you in time. Just wait. But take care of your family.' She kept trying to tell me to go back. So I turned around and I went back, but I couldn't figure out until I came out of this-- I sat and thought about it and then I realized what had happened. WINFREY: What had happened? Mrs. BUSCH: Well, basically, I was just in limbo. That I--I had made the decision, I feel consciously, not to stay there. If I, maybe, put up a fuss, maybe I wouldn't have come back. WINFREY: So... Mrs. BUSCH: But I wanted to raise my family. WINFREY: ...you came back being more psychic? Mrs. BUSCH: I don't know if you would call it psychic. WINFREY: What do you say? Mr. MARK BUSCH: She just has--has an uncanny ability now to know what's going to happen, sometimes a few hours ahead of time, sometimes months in advance. And usually it's things that involve the family. Like--like she said she was sent back to take care of her family. And now she knows--like--like recently I was transferred with my job. She knew about it long before I did. Or she knows things that are going to happen, whether it's work, church, the kids, or whatever; she knows ahead of time. She always doesn't tell us. She may not tell us until afterwards, sometimes she'll tell us ahead of time. But she seems to know things more clearly and understand things clearly than before.
