A Man Cooked Chicken In Nighttime Flu Medicine. This Is What Happened To His Liver.

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Theres no way people were really cooking nyquil chicken thats a absolute meme. To the level of eating tyde pods

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/googang1224 📅︎︎ Sep 28 2022 🗫︎ replies

Fuck the syrup. I stick with the freebase or gelcaps haha.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/Wild_Laboon 📅︎︎ Sep 28 2022 🗫︎ replies

Say it with me kids:
IF YOURE BUYING OTC COUGH MEDS FOR RECRRATIONAL USE, ONLY BUY THE SYRUP/PILLS THAT CONTAIN DXM HBR OR DXM POLYSTYREX/POLI ONLY AS THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT. DXM ONLY.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Sep 29 2022 🗫︎ replies
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Hey, Dr Bernard here. This is medicine. There’s a  label on the bottle, required by law, that tells   you how to take it. Cooking food in it, is not how  you take it. You can cause massive, irreversible   damage to your body using it improperly like  that, as I’ll tell you about in this video. Also, the Nyquil chicken meme isn’t new.  Someone sent this to me on Twitter, July 12,   2020. If you search, the exact image was making its   rounds on Twitter that particular day.  So, the FDA Consumer Update about Social   Media Challenges Involving Medicines, mentioning  NyQuil Chicken September 15, 2022, I’m guessing,   was written by an FDA staffer who remembered  that particular image, and wrote it in to the   Update sometime in between these 2 years. I don’t  believe they went out of their way to report   this specific trend, it was just an example that they cited. Then the media picked up on it,   and the idea was presented as new and amplified  by orders of magnitude. This wasn’t an ultra viral   trend before the news stories dropped, so because  of that, I don’t know of any specific cases of   NyQuil Chicken poisonings leading to a hospital  admission, at the time of recording this. However,   the ingredients in here are used by at least 60  million Americans every week. It’s safe when used   per label, but sometimes mistakes happen, and  we do have tens of thousands of cases of those   poisonings involving these medicines every year.  So in an effort to make it so there aren’t any   specific cases of nighttime cold and flu medicine  chicken going forward, I will tell you about what an   actual poisoning of this looks like, by using the  story prompt of someone cooking chicken like this. A Man Cooked Chicken In Nighttime Cold and Flu   Medicine. This Is How His  Liver Shutdown his Brain. OP is a 19 year old man, presenting  to the emergency room, unconscious. His mother Lana, tells the admitting nurse that  her son had suffered at least 2 seizures before   she noticed that his skin and the whites  of his eyes were a greenish yellow color.   She had no idea what he had been doing for  at least the last 48 hours, because he had   locked himself in his room before she broke in  after hearing him shaking all over the floor. OP was someone who liked memes. Every day, first  thing in the morning, he’d reach for his phone to   dump images online. His parents believed  that their son had a problem. Sometimes,   they’d see him sitting alone in a room, silent and  staring off into space, when suddenly they’d hear   him cackling maniacally because he remembered  a random meme he posted online 2 years ago.   He’d spend hours everyday just scrolling, and  the funnier he found a post, the more his face   would express no emotion while he breathed  a larger volume of air, out of his nose. One day, OP came across chicken cooked in  night time cold and flu medicine. He saw the   rich turquoise greenish color of the meat outside,  and the partially cooked inside. Chicken pink raw,   however taste very good, he thought, as he  prepared himself for what he was about to do. In the kitchen now, OP whipped out  some chicken breasts into a pan,   and he poured at least 2 bottles of night time  cold and flu medicine. He made sure to record   it all so he could meme the video. But as the  chicken was starting to cook in the medicine,   he felt the smoke waft up into his nose, and a  stinging pain started piercing into his eyes.   It must be ready to eat now, he thought, as he  ate the chicken, and drank the remaining juice. In the minutes after finishing his meal, OP  thought he felt his vision starting to slow   down. He could hear a bell ringing in his ears,  like he was sitting at a funeral. Time to play   some cringe video games, he thought,  as he stumbled over to his computer. As the hours passed, OP kept thinking that he  was seeing lights flashing and hearing sounds   that may not have actually been there.  He thought his dad walked in on him,   opening the door and slurring out  the words, “are ya winning son?,”   as the door slammed shut. OP wasn’t sure  if he dreamed that, because the next thing   he could remember was waking up on the  floor with a mouth as dry as the desert,   only getting up because he had to scramble to the  bathroom and empty his stomach into the toilet. As the day continued, OP kept feeling  worse. Every time he emptied his stomach,   he noticed the contents in the toilet were a  greenish yellow color, the same color as his   skin and the whites of his eyes. He wasn’t sure  if he couldn’t think correctly anymore because   he was wondering if what was being pushed into  the toilet from his stomach was actually parts   of his skin sloughing off and melting into  the ground. His breathing starts to become   labored, and as his stomach starts to hurt more  and more, he can feel his head start pounding.   He can feel his eyes push out of his skull, as  he lays down on the floor in a fetal position. As at least 36 hours pass, OP starts to convulse.  In the other room, Lana had no idea where her son   was or what he was doing, but as she walks  in and finds him shaking on the floor,   she calls for 911 and he’s brought to  the emergency room where we are now. At examination, doctors immediately see several  clues telling them what’s happening. First, OP is   jaundiced. This yellowing of his skin and eyes  is from a chemical called bilirubin, something   produced from breaking down red blood cells in  the liver. If there’s so much bilirubin floating   around in the body that it’s attaching to his  skin and his eyes, then it means that something   must be wrong with his liver, and a blood test  finds confirms this because parts of his liver   have died, and are leaking their contents around in  his blood. But this isn’t his only problem. The same blood test reports that his kidneys  have also shut down, all of this giving doctors   clues as to what’s happening, because they  don’t know exactly what he put in his body. Nighttime cold and flu medicine is typically a  mix of 3 active ingredients. Dextromethorphan,   which is a cough medicine, doxylamine, which  is used as the sleep aid giving the way to the   night time branding of the medicine, and  acetaminophen, also known as paracetamol,   which is a pain reliever and an anti-inflammatory  medicine meaning it can help with the aches and   fevers associated with flu. These 3 medicines  alone, explain everything happening to OP. As doctors move OP into the Intensive care  unit, they stick a tube down his throat so   that a machine can help breathe for him. Clearly  if he presented to the emergency room in a coma,   something happened to his brain,  but which medicine did that? Dextromethorphan, can cause hallucinations and  psychoactive effects. In very large amounts,   it can cause serotonin syndrome, where too  much of a chemical that sends signals in the   brain can cause problems. OP thought he could see  and hear things, and he might have been able to,   but the dose he consumed from the bottles of  this particular formulation, is much less   than a dedicated cough syrup. It could have  been enough to cause some hallucinations,   but it likely wasn’t enough to cause  serotonin syndrome because he doesn't   have the signs and symptoms of that, and so,  dextromethorphan might not be the culprit. But how about the ingredient that increases  drowsiness, the doxylamine? This is why it's branded as nighttime medicine. If it makes  one sleepy, then it should affect the brain right?   Well, it could. But doxylamine isn’t just a medicine  for drowsiness. It’s also an allergy medicine,   it works similar to how Benadryl does, so OP could  have had hallucinations from this too. But the   dose of doxylamine in this formulation isn’t  very high. It could explain his dry mouth and   his blurred vision, but it shouldn’t cause liver  and kidney failure, especially in this severity. All of this leaves us with the final active  ingredient, acetaminophen. At the doses indicated   on any medicine label, acetaminophen is safe.  However, acetaminophen happens to be in many   different over the counter medicines, and while  people may follow the directions on the label   of one medicine, they could be taking another  medicine, following that label too. This means   that the person following these labels correctly,  are unknowingly doubling or tripling their daily   acetaminophen intake. Even worse, they might also  be taking prescription medicine, like hydrocodone   for pain, and that also contains acetaminophen.  The active ingredients tell you most of what you   need to know. The acetaminophen in here, is  the same active ingredient here. This means   that following the label exactly on both bottles  could still net you an overdose if that person   isn’t paying attention to what they’re putting  in their body. Always read the label and check. OP consumed at least 2 bottles of nighttime cold  and flu medicine when he cooked his chicken in it,   and drank all the remaining liquid.  And the fact that it was liquid,   makes things even worse for him. If you take acetaminophen for aches and pains and  fever, you’ll likely take it in tablet or capsule   form. In the stomach, it takes time for these to  dissolve, before they pass through and absorb into   the blood stream through the small intestines.  Liquid medicines don’t need to dissolve,   they’re in a form ready to be absorbed into the  blood, meaning that OP’s poisoning was happening   much quicker. When it absorbs into his blood from  the gut, the first place it reaches is the liver. This brings us to an idea called metabolism.  The substances that some folks use and abuse,   are often administered through  the lungs in the form of smoke,   or it’s put into a nasal or mucous membrane,  or it’s injected. If you look at how the blood   vessels are mapped in the body, these routes  of administration get the substances to the brain,   before they get to the liver. This is  significant, because the liver metabolizes,   or breaks down, everything that enters your  body. When you ingest medicine by mouth, half,   if not more of the dose you took, is metabolized  in the liver first, inactivating the medicine   in an effort to protect your body from something  that’s 1) not made in your body and 2) shouldn’t   be in excess in your body. Smoke and injection  bypass reaching the liver first, so that a   higher amount can get to the target organ. All  of this explaining everything happening to OP. As the nighttime cold and flu medicine absorbs  into his liver, all the acetaminophen starts   to get processed. The interesting thing about the  liver, is that it uses multiple ways to metabolize   any given substance. These different pathways  make the liver more robust in the case that should   one pathway be overwhelmed for some reason, a  different one can step in to continue the process.   This is what happens to acetaminophen. But in  the case of overdose, bad things start to happen. As more and more acetaminophen floods into  OP’s liver, the first non-toxic metabolite   isn’t made as much. The liver moves on to the  second pathway, breaking acetaminophen into   a reactive chemical. Because it’s robust, the  liver is still fine with this, it has stores of   a chemical named glutathione that can neutralize  this reactive chemical. But because OP consumed   so much acetaminophen, more and more reactive  metabolite keeps accumulating, and the liver   starts to run out of glutathione, and there’s  no more pathways for the liver to handle this. When chemicals are reactive, they want to become  more stable. In the body, you typically don’t want   reactive chemicals floating around, because  they’ll try to stabilize themselves by taking   bits and pieces from parts of the body. And in  OP’s case, the toxic acetaminophen metabolite is   reacting with his liver. At first, it interferes  with the mitochondria, making it harder for cells   to produce energy. But then it starts ripping off  parts of cells in an effort to stabilize itself.   As the cells start to die because they’re reacting  with the metabolite, the liver starts to lose its   capacity to process the body’s waste, becoming  even less capable of handling acetaminophen. As the days continue, OP’s blood starts showing  that these dead parts of his liver are floating   around in his body. Even more acetaminophen  metabolite floods his liver, killing even more   cells, as the liver shuts down and waste continues  to build up his body. Bacteria and cells in the   gut produce ammonia, which in normal function  is processed by the liver. It’s converted to   glutamine. As OP’s liver keeps necrosing from the  massive ingestion of acetaminophen, the ammonia   spills into his blood causing hyperammonemia.  Hyper meaning high. Ammon referring to ammonia,   a substance produced by the normal breakdown of  proteins and -emia meaning presence in blood. The brain tries to compensate for this presence  in blood because brain cells have some ability   to metabolize ammonia to glutamine, just like  the liver can. But as the massive amount of   ammonia overwhelms OP’s brain cells, a fluid  imbalance starts to happen as the brain starts   to swell. At first, the skull has a little room  for the brain to expand, but as the liver quickly   becomes unable to handle anything because it has  completely shut down, more and more ammonia spills   in causing the brain to swell even more. All of  the survival mechanisms in the brain cells become   overwhelmed suddenly, as the brain starts to crush  up against the sides of the skull, smashing blood   vessels and causing the brain to ooze through the  sutures of the skull causing permanent damage. Is there anything that can be done for OP?  Well, maybe. Time is the most important   factor. Unmetabolized acetaminophen isn’t  toxic, but there isn’t currently a way to   stop the liver from metabolizing it. If the  liver can handle the toxic metabolite with   its stores of glutathione, then the solution  is to replenish the stores of glutathione.   N-acetylcysteine is the antidote because  it does just that, and prevents the toxic   chemical from reacting with liver cells. If  permanent damage is extensive in the liver,   then the antidote wont help, because  the damage has already been done,   and a liver transplant would be the only  remaining solution. Because OP had neurologic   signs and symptoms when he presented to the  emergency room, things don’t look good for him. In the FDA consumer update, it says Boiling a  medication can make it much more concentrated.   Boiling wont create a higher dose, it  won’t create more of the active ingredient,   but it will take some liquid out. More concerning  is the idea of stability. Heating something up   means the molecules move faster. This increased  kinetic energy can make everything less stable,   and the chemicals may break  apart in order to stabilize,   and you won’t know exactly what you’re  getting at that point. Whichever the   case is, don’t cook anything with any  prescription or over the counter medicine. OP was not able to get a liver transplant in time,  and he was not able to make a recovery. His case   was from an intentional massive acetaminophen  ingestion, no idea what product specifically   it was, because like I said earlier, acetaminophen  is included in so many common over the counter and   prescription medicines that 60 million Americans  consume it weekly. At doses on the label, and if   you have no prior health conditions, and you’re  only just taking this one medicine, our bodies   have enough glutathione to handle the metabolite.  It does take a lot of this to cause damage like   in OP’s case, but if you accidentally combine too  many medicines like how an elderly person in the   retirement home might, or you think it’s a funny  meme to mess around with whole bottles like this,   the damage can be permanent. This is why you  don’t want to cook food, in this medicine. Thanks for watching. Take  care of yourself. And Be well.
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