THE HELP THIS EVENING. OUR CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT AND DEAR FRIEND OF MINE JOINS US. US. WHAT DOES PRESIDENT BIDEN'S MOVE TO PROTECT UNDOCUMENTED SPOUSES MEAN IN REALITY? >> THIS IS POTENTIALLY A TRUE GAME CHANGER FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS A VERY COMMON MISCONCEPTION RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE HAVE THE IDEA THAT IF YOU HAVE COME TO THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION AND YOU MARRY A CITIZEN THAT AUTOMATICALLY CONFIRMS CITIZENSHIP, BUT IT DOES NOT BE THE ONLY WAY A PERSON CAN ADJUST THEIR STATUS IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION IS TO LEAVE THE U.S. AND RETURN TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AND THEN WAIT POTENTIALLY THREE YEARS OR 10 YEARS OR MAYBE FOREVER BECAUSE THAT TRIGGERS A BAN ON THE RETURNING TO THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE THIS CATCH-22 SYSTEM AND OUR IMMIGRATION POLICY RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT BIDEN IS DOING IS FIXING THAT, SO NOW FAMILIES CAN'T SPLIT APART WITH NO GUARANTEE OF BEING ABLE TO REUNITE JUST TO GET A GREEN CARD THAT THE UNDOCUMENTED SPOUSE IS ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR. THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND ALSO COMING ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF WHERE AN IMMIGRANT HERITAGE MONTH I THINK THIS POTENTIALLY COULD ENERGIZE MANY LATINO VOTERS AND MANY ON THE PROGRESSIVE SIDE OF THE PARTY. >> OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS WITH CONGRESS DOING NOTHING. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT INSISTING THAT AMERICA CAN SECURE THE BORDER AND CREATE A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR IMMIGRANTS. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> I THINK THAT THE MESSAGING IS OUTSTANDING BECAUSE NUMBER ONE LOOK AT THE CONTRAST WITH DONALD TRUMP YOU HE HAS ALREADY PROMISED MASS DEPORTATIONS. DETENTION CAMPS. AND HAS EVEN SAID HE WOULD NOT RULE OUT FAMILY SEPARATIONS, SO WHAT JOE BIDEN IS DOING IS SOUND POLICY BUT A VERY GOOD POLITICS. JUST TO BE CLEAR PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT GIVING ANYONE ANYTHING. WHAT HE IS DOING FOR THE UNDOCUMENTED SPOUSES OF CITIZENS IS HE IS A CLEARING AN OBSTACLE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ACCESS GREEN CARDS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR, SO THERE IS NO REWARD FOR ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. THIS IS A BENEFIT THAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ENTITLED TO. THEY JUST CANNOT ACCESS IT WITHOUT THIS EXTREME HARDSHIP AND UNCERTAINTY.>> ONE ADVOCATE CALLED THIS THE BIGGEST POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT SINCE OBAMA ANNOUNCED IT. A BIG OF A DEAL DO YOU SEE THIS AS? >> I THINK IT IS A BIG POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT ABSOLUTELY AND COMPARABLE TO THEM IN A LOT OF WAYS. AND EXECUTIVE ACTION THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE TO IT LEGALLY OF COURSE AND ALSO MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME INTERIM FORCE THAT A LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS HAS AND IS A LESS THAN IDEAL SOLUTION FOR THOSE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH IT. IT'S A WAY FOR BIDEN TO SAY I AM DOING WHAT I CAN WELL CONGRESS IS NOT TAKING ACTION. IT IS ALSO TAKING PLACE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT THEY TOOK PLACE. PRESIDENT OBAMA DID THIS IN JUNE OF AN ELECTION YEAR. THEY ARE OF COURSE TRYING TO APPEAL TO THE PROGRESSIVE PART OF THE PARTY AND REMIND THEM THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. IT COMES AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN TOOK SOME RATHER STRINGENT ACTION IN TERMS OF LIMITING ASYLUM RIGHTS FOR THOSE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER, WHICH UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF HIS PARTY. HE IS TRYING TO SAY YOU MAY BE UPSET FOR THAT, BUT HERE IS A SOLUTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. YOU MENTIONED THE SECURING THE BORDER AT THE SAME TIME AND TRYING TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE IN THE COUNTRY. THAT IS THE SAME FORMULA THAT THEY BOTH PROMOTED FOR YEARS BUT NEVER GOT CONGRESS TO ADOPT. >> IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY ARE HUGE ISSUES FOR REPUBLICANS, BUT ALSO SOME DEMOCRATS AND THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE STRONG POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS, BUT THEY DO VOTE. WHAT ARE PEOPLE ON THE HILL SAYING ABOUT THIS MOVE FROM THE PRESIDENT?>> I THINK THEY WERE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A MOVE THAT WAS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS ASSURING OF PROGRESSIVES. I THINK CERTAINLY THAT WAS NOTICED TODAY AS I WAS READING THROUGH AND LISTENING THROUGH THE REACTION FROM CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS WHO WERE BOTH AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND VOICING THEIR OPINION. I ALSO THINK THEY'RE RIGHT TO COUPLE TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT CAME SEVERAL WEEKS PRIOR TO ITS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DREW THE IRE OF PROGRESSIVES AND WE ALSO HEARD NOTIONS OF THAT AS THEY WERE PRAISING THIS LATEST ACTION TODAY. ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ECONOMICS GUARANTEE THEY ARE GOING TO BALK AT ANY MOVE THEY MAKE ON IMMIGRATION EITHER CALLING IT TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE OR SAYING THAT IT'S TOO MUCH. CERTAINLY THAT WAS THE REACTION WE SAW TODAY, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE CONGRESS PLAYS IN CONTINUING TO NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT EARLIER THIS YEAR. IT WAS BIPARTISAN IN NATURE AND PUTTING ON THE TABLE THINGS THAT REPUBLICANS DID NOT THINK DEMOCRATS WOULD ENTERTAIN AND ULTIMATELY DEMOCRATS WILL MORE THAN ENTERTAIN THEM. THEY LEFT THEM AS A PART OF THE DEAL. ULTIMATELY THAT WAS FALLING APART BECAUSE TRUMP SIGNALED TO REPUBLICAN ALLIES ON THE HILL THAT HE PREFERRED TO KEEP THIS AS A LIBEL DURING AN ELECTION YEAR. WE SAW THAT FIELD EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND THEN SEVERAL WEEKS AGO JUST BEFORE WE SAW THESE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS FROM THE PRESIDENT WE SAW SENATE MAJORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER ONCE AGAIN PUT THEM ON THE FLOOR IN A LAST-DITCH EFFORT MAYBE, BUT DEFINITELY A POLITICAL MESSAGING VOTE TO SHOW WHERE REPUBLICANS WERE ON SOLVING AN ISSUE THAT IS SO CENTRAL TO THEIR MESSAGING POINT FOR THE MEMBER AND 2024. IF EVERYTHING TO TALK ABOUT FOR RMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CONSISTENTLY. WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE WITH HIM FOR YEARS NOW SINCE THE 2016 CAMPAIGN. EVERY TIME HE'S IN A SPOT OF PULL IN TROUBLE HE PIVOTS BACK TOWARDS IMMIGRATION. YOU KNOW THAT, BUT WATCHING THE WAY THAT CONGRESS IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAVE TRIED TO WORK ON THIS SHOWS THAT THEY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT AS A 2024 ELECTION ISSUE THAT THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO TURN IN THEIR FAVOR.>> IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE DONALD TRUMP REACTED TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SAID THIS ABOUT MIGRANTS. WATCH. >> THEY GIVE THEM WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS. ONE OF THE CATASTROPHIC THINGS AND ONE OF THE MANY CATASTROPHIC THINGS THAT WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH WHEN THEY COME IN. CROOKED JOE IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD THAT HE REWARDS ILLEGAL ENTRY.>> THERE ARE VOTERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HEAR THIS AND THEY BELIEVE IT. OUR DEMOCRATS FRAMING THEIR RESPONSE IN THE RIGHT WAY? >> MY SENSE IS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE BEGINNING TO FRAME THEIR RESPONSE IN THE RIGHT WAY. FOR STARTERS, JUST FOR FAX SAKE AS WE SAY NOT ONLY IS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYING UNTRUE THAT UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THESE GOVERNMENT BENEFITS THAT HE IS MENTIONING. YOU CAN ARGUE THAT PEOPLE IN THE PRESIDENT'S OWN FAMILY HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS SO-CALLED CHAIN MIGRATION, BUT THE THING IS FOR DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY COMING INTO THE DEBATES THEY ARE STARTING TO DRAW A GOOD DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE GOP. IT IS A QUESTION THAT AMERICANS WILL INCREASINGLY HAVE TO WANT. DO WE WANT TO BE A COUNTRY THAT IS IN FAVOR OF FAMILY SEPARATIONS OR A COUNTRY THAT IS A LEAST TRYING TO KEEP FAMILIES INTACT AND TO PRESERVE OUR BORDER SECURITY. I THINK THE PRESIDENT DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE IS NOT JUST ABOUT BORDER SECURITY. IT IS ABOUT OUR UNDOCUMENTED POPULATION. IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE HERE WITH NO WAYS TO ADJUST THEIR STATUS, SO HE IS IN THE BIGGER PICTURE ON THIS AND IS WITH THE PUBLIC. EARLIER THIS YEAR THEY ASKED
