A Former False Prophet's Story

pastor McArdle amiable ani the auto of church mafia is my guest tonight we examine the whole phenomena of false prophets today as she has the incredible journey of his own deception and deliverance this is Jim stock Africa [Music] from Cape Cod to Cairo and from Mogadishu to Decker this is chance for Africa [Music] only Bielema hi there welcome to chim stock Africa I'm your host Jim onion Bahama thank you so much for joining us and a very blessed Easter to you on your loved one Christ is risen indeed and because he leaves you will face tomorrow on you were triumph now we love hearing from you and this is one of the message we got from one of you this is from good news more Lemmo in South Africa and he's reacting to an interview I had with Sean I can relate some weeks back on his book foxes and the Viet and the correct use of the term spiritual father he says hi if I call my personal spiritual father my question is then God will be who and he's referring to Matthew 23 verse my according to my understanding looking at South Africa led to this pastors are using the word spiritual father just to own people because most of those who use this tie to you find out the respect they get from church members is much more than the respect God gets they fight anyone trying to correct that error Thank You Mel Emma for that we love to hear from you people please write us today on anything that you see on the show in recent times the news have been filled with stories of fake pastors and fake prophets and questionable miracles the Bible speaks a lot about false teachers and prophets and how to avoid their deception I believe that it is usually in a season when God is moving that the enemy will also try to duplicate God's move with fakes it's because God is moving mightily across Africa that there are so many fake prophets today in my opinion my guest today started off as a child of God born again serving as a pastor in the ministry yet I lost the lost for fame and wealth led him into becoming a false prophet but praise God that God and can't redeem I restored him let's go now to this very interesting interview with Pastor Mikado and afterwards I will come back to you with two important truths that will help you be victorious over this phenomenon of false prophets don't go away [Music] welcome so much to this segment of your show like I said in the beginning my guest today is pastor Macondo rama boone Lana did I get your surname you got it right said passed on baccardo is the author of the book church mafia and this is what we've come to talk about today Mikado you were brought up on the solid Evangelic our gospel background tell me exactly what led you into these evil powers Thank You pasta for the opportunity for hosting me what I can say is that I grew up in a Christian family I knew Kristin morals and values I respond to my call because I was called at a very young age I went to the Bible College I got training spirit-filled I was equipped for the ministry yes speaking in tongues I was equipped for the ministry I moved out of a training institute into the field things happen in the field the field is a reality place when I got there we started the first church it was in Pretoria in the CBD we were attending in the afternoon Sun this afternoon the church was growing but you know sometimes there's this illusion of ministry where you see other people whom you seem that they are most successful when you look at the flashy cars that kind of lifestyle they live then from a distance I compared to myself where I was with where those people weigh in this way or some of your friends yeah this way some of their friends then I got closer to this one particular guy that I wanted a particular gift he was prophesying people by names calling people by a car registration number I did not have that remember at the Bible College we fasted we prayed but we never had that gift so it was a new thing that I said I want this because I believe that if I can have this gift I will attract more people come the mistake I made it was to aspire other people's gift than to nourish what God has given unto me remember one other thing that is that when you are in the ministry nothing will come fast as we expect God will take you through a process so what was happening is that I was not comfortable to where I was financially I wanted a quick fix I wanted quick money quick blessing a shortcut to success so now you know what has always concerned me is this how is it possible that a person who is spirit filled will go through the kind of initiation you described in this book because the viewers are welcome to get the book but you described how when you got close to these people you stressin notice that they said you needed to go travel out to Nigeria yes you are - somewhere in West Africa and get some powers you ended up travelling to Mozambique yes is in bad way yes to different places but first of all you traveled to Niger Nigeria they were telling you you needed a man of God or somebody to give you power yes now you travel down and then you you ended up going to a place that was a shrine yes you you you heading onto two people who well basically sangomas yes we were doing Moochie or juju yes - yeah that's how they're currently that's what in West Africa or mu T here is juju yeah now how is it that you as a spirit-filled believer walking into this environment where there is all this evil spirits you talked about going to a shrine to the god of ions oh yes I go somewhere in West Western idea yeah and all that how could you know why did you run away why wasn't there any positive I would think that a a child of God spirits field will have a rapport ssin that will make him run away I think what happened is that before I could depart to Nigeria I had a connection with this juju man he was sending things that I should use so I think using those things somehow spiritually they blended we wished you yeah they bewitched me because of our given things to bath at night before could father now I found myself that I wanted to save every cent I had for that particular sheep in my heart I knew that what I'm going to do is not something that is in the will of God but because I was blinded spiritually I will not make another choice but to follow what they wanted me to do so you-you-you-you travelled down and you came back with some powers yes I can't describe some of the powers you were giving the kind of things they said this thing will be doing for you when I travel down they gave me some of it's more of a calabash it had some some stitches inside some sent where they took it from the river it has some calories inside it was covered with some white calories and some feathers day and I was instructed that when you get home where you are you should take it to the nearest river where you stay so that you introduce this God into the God of the river so that it can work for you in your environment where your church is so that when you pray for people there it will be the marine spirit from that water waiting with the juju they gave me to do miracles that's what I have done so you did that I started to change for you I was shocked even today as I'm seated with you there are certain things that I'm battling to understand because when I brought those things I started to see huge change in my church the church that was not growing I started to see change I was praying people who are not falling down when this juju came in other said fire people were holding I could not understand what was happening but now I understand it was the evil force that was being used to manipulate people now now people were coming in yes the whole thing was growing you said in the book you became known as can Takata cutta cutta prophet kata-kata which became a household name around the area where you were young yeah in such angular Pretoria in Pretoria now did this try the way some people who were there with you early on I mean before you left you had a few members yes people who were saved yes what was their reaction when you came in they there were people who left the church when you came with this when I came with this new operation because they are others in the church they are playful and the moment they start to see something is wrong here the Holy Spirit in them give them a conviction and they left so the way people who left the church but guess what when two or three family left the church multitude of people came in so so what's going on here is that a real child of God yes the Spirit of God in him gives him a man that something is something is not right is that we need to understand that God would not allow his children to be overcome and eaten up by all the ELA around a man so I want you to understand this as you're watching it the Spirit of God is not a weak spirit man is that is the power of God a man and he lives in you and so the point of entry and the problem for many of us is this is the lost of our heart yes it's what we are seeking yes we're going to take a quick break this is very important things we are talking about we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back I want to find out from you just how do you feel about the many thousands of people you deceived and have you been able to reconcile yourself to that and also how we can what are the tips you can give us about how we can stay the same we've been talking to Pastor mikado Rama B'Elanna the author of this book Church mafia this is the price and gauging subject who go for a short break we'll be right back don't go away [Music] do you have any opinions or comments on today's subject or any other issues in your country or around Africa we would love for you to join the conversation please send us your comments by whatsapp video voice or text message to the number on your screen or via Facebook Twitter or email we may be able to include your text audio or video comments on a future show [Music] welcome back to the second part of my interview with Pastor Mikado rama pucllana now you were getting lots of money yes you were getting lots of pain yes and you will feel in on top of the world did you at any time before this blue of being arrested did you at any time feel like hey I'm lost what am i doing as a child of God uh I think I was lost very very deep and I could not identify that I was lost if you were like oblivious to your state yes people were talking to me people were advising me I remember my father called me and said what kind of a ministry is that he too was he was suspicious yeah he was suspicious what kind of a minister is that then I just said to him this is how God is using me I did not want anybody to say anything because it seems as if they were waking so even when people who righteous people like your dad called you you were like yeah I could not listen because in the book you say your wife was against this whole thing how did you manage to of course you said you ignored her yes how did you manage to balance this force life and keeping her I think my wife she's one of the reason why I came back to the Lord praise God because she was not part of that yes he was against she was against it she knew that I had a room where nobody was supposed to enter you know what was there because you said she didn't know where you went to you like to have a conference yes Africa yes you didn't know anything about the she did not know but she suspected that things are not going well and she was praying against those Artois so you can imagine under one roof two different powers fight thickness and light and darkness and light every day I was abusive to her I was aggressive because of those spirits the way they strapped on paying up until today I am where I am just imagine if I could have introduced her to this system yeah like what is happening today today I think what happens many times is some of those prosperous profits I in lead with that yeah your wife wouldn't go that way with you praise God for a righteous man woman and wherever you are as you watch this I thank God for your life a man because here you saved the soul and many more souls but you when you got arrested you were arrested on a false accusation yes but it was God's Way of saving you amen now the process of deliverance remember people did not accept that I have changed because they've known now that you use force power yes now you're saying you a be restored yes they kept on saying no we don't believe but I kept on playing there is something I want the viewers to know when you go to God with the true heart it does not matter how big is your problem or how bad you'll be bad God will speak on you that is if there is somebody listening to us he's gone deep like I went as a false prophet amen and he's listening and this might be your own arresting moment because man God brought police to arrest you but it might be this program that God is bringing to arrest you and now confronting you with the fact that there's no problem about how far you have gone man it is time to return to the Lord and then because if not worse things were having happen because God is love and it wants to restore but let's go to the people who were deceived going back after your restoration how do you feel when you look at the thousands of people whoa how do you fly back to your heart because we're talking about a man called initially yes to bring people to salvation now I think of thousands of people have been initiated into darkness how does that make you feel I remember the other night I woke up and I cried I found one of the managers of a radio station where I had my own show and I said to the manager I need an opportunity to come live and come and confess and say I do have your own show when you will false prophet now you were asking for time to confess you confess publicly because I was doing this public year no that woman said no we are not going to allow you because we've got other people here who are doing what you are doing and [Music] now that's why I said I will use every platform to speak my story which is why you said this is the main motivation of this book yes and as you watch from home you can get this book on the different platform being shown on the screen right now you can no matter where you are our ties in Kenya or Ghana Nigeria you can get this book because you know what posture yes this is a phenomena that is all across the continent this issue of people's just going as crowds into places for people who are poor profit the word profit now is branded as the main thing like you said in the book how can a person what would you say to us as we start to random haka bite differentiate between a real church and a false prophets thank you I think a real church when we speak of a real church we are speaking about the body of Christ a church is a community of believers where we come and we edify each other with our gifts but the moment you find yourself in an environment where it is a one-man show yes where everybody places one man yes where when you play you have to go through that one man are you God that is the danger on secondly when you find yourself in an environment where I call it the Antichrist system now the Antichrist it means against Christ or in the place of Christ now you find instead of teaching the congregation how to rely on Christ you teach them adoption how to rely on other things [Music] water and they call it miracle or some former easy yes yes so the moment you are shifting the faith of people to rely on things elements elements tangible things that is something wrong with that church okay the fat one it is a place where you go and there's a price take now usually about a price tag they call it one on one with the frosting on one we saw in Seoul and for you to see the profit you have to pay a particular amount it is no longer a free will of for the year if free will offering does not have a specific amount price yeah but the moment they said for you to see the men of God you must pay this something goes wrong this is this assigns this assigns it must indicate to you the other one it is when the weight of the prophet or the pasta is final than the weight of God yes if they said that the prophet said one two three and it's fine alia you don't have to argue you just have to believe something is wrong it doesn't matter but metal going on that is very important if you look at the Bible a man who sees performed a miracle before Pharaoh he master artists rod it turned into a snake yes yes the things that differentiate are real from force is not where the miracle is happening a man who is producing that miracle they spirit behind the miracle so go on what you talked about three indicators what is that this then the first one is the prophecy yeah now I used to be a false prophet here and how I used to prophesy it was to excite than to speak the instruction of the Lord yes now remember they are prophecy when they come they excite you like calling people by names calling people by registration I get I get I get really offended in the spirit when I watch people standing up and people get excited because the master did I know you yeah sure I save your name is this you leave this also place what is that you see it is a distorted despotic manifestation of world of knowledge yes what of knowledge in the Bible is intentional yes it brings up a knowledge that wasn't known before but it's always the call to edification or to depend on a man it's not to put off this man like off this is the way the hapless and the spiritual yes and the Messiah Gomez do so you're walking through his do I say you - come your name is Hany oh how do you know him had it you present a man of God yes so it is the prophecy are not meant for excitement go yes now now I'm getting like this because I tell you this a subject very close to my heart a man I do know that in every place you see a garden there are their ships and their goats here their goats their gods who no matter what you say they they just come and they do anything but what about those who are Christians like you and many times because we're hooked up with this lost in our yes we forget the basic principles of faith and then we get swept off a man into this confusion a man in this last days ma you're talking about about yeah now the moment you you you prophesy with excitement when a peasant start to be excited what they do they open up me try they are able to take anything from the men of God or from this open because it is telling me the registration of back yeah he's telling me what kind of honor we are wearing yes now that is the same moment where there is what we call a transference of spirit the spirit behind the process see which is a marine spirit it is the one that now enters the left of these people so when you receive a Prophet's you are not only receiving waits but you are receiving the spirit behind the prophecy so a lot of people they are not aware of that they said know me I am praying but if your pasta is into evil spirits it means every process you receive you are receiving the spirit we can't afford to be the house where it is not centered on Christ amen we're having to learn this year but I want to say a few things and then the the goal of the gospel is Christ amen the goal of the gospel is not our prosperity man the goal of the gospel is not how well-off I am you and I man let me tell you the goal of the gospel is for you to possess Christ a man not just a salvation we get saved you know but after we get saved we leave the rest of our life seeking to know him a man I tell you Paul said this in Philippians it says I don't assume that I have attained a man he said and this one thing I do ki that I might live hold on that for which Christ laid hold on me and he said that I may know him amen I'm power and the power of his resurrection there is real power in the dog yes say there is that miracles that God does a man but he says I want to know the power of his resurrection that means that brought him up from the dead anything I want to know the Fellowship of his suffering the goal of the gospel is to know Christ and to know him as a person to eat him and if you get into a mode where your goal in life is to break through to make it yeah to go to the next level to prosper that's not the goal and that is that is an extra yes do you you know what they call byproducts when you go to a factory and then they're making things it's like dessert let's use the socks so you've eaten your main meal then after you bring the dessert the miracles and all the blessings they are dessert yes the real meal is Christ a man I want you to get it as you listen to me the main meal that we're called to the whole purpose what people like Paul John and all the James you read in the Bible what do a portion I'm seeking day after day the main meal was Christ every other team miracle blessings whatever where extra when you take the extra make them the main thing and enter into a stage of confusion yes I want you to examine your life what is the main thing what are you pursuing what is the purpose what are you panting after because if the man is in that place pastor where the main thing is posturing Christ I want to know him I want to behold man I want to be holy I want to be like him I want him for me man I don't want to live in sin a man there's no way discernment will not come true a man he was he would know the Spirit of God and you would teach you all truth a man it's when you go to this other area that the problem comes and then the second problem is that maybe you're not even born again yes maybe you're not going again impossible I want also as we learn to speak to that yes as the word just maybe what happen is are you join the church well you really are not born again and there's no assignment we're talking about yes and to be born again it's not about putting down your name as a member of a church yes it's an experience that happened to be 1986 it happens to you as a definite anywhere you walk away from the stream you say I'm tired of my sin and I want a new life and you by state receive what Christ has done on the cross he's finished what day you say I don't want to rule my life again Christ come and rule my life and I don't give you a life to Christ just pray along with me now and say Lord Jesus I'm tired of my sin please come into my life I don't want to rule my life anymore from today on you'll be the Lord of my life I believe you died for me I believe you rose again I want to follow you and only you for the rest of my life in Jesus name Amen I make you so much faster for common than yourself we have to land it here thank you so nice I'll be you [Music] hi there welcome back I trust that was helpful now in addition to that let me share with you two important truths to help you in this issue before I share this let me emphasize that it is God by his Spirit that will keep you he holds you and will keep you from every deceiver to the last day the Bible says of you and I that who truth faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last days 1st Peter 1:5 you and I are seeded by God's power so you don't ever need to fear that you for however there are three important rules I want to share that will help you the first truth is found in proverbs 4:23 the Bible says keep your heart with all diligence for out of it are the issues of life like we said in the interview the root problem while many are led astray by false prophet is because of the lost of their hats what are you porcine God your heart be honest with yourself and God root out every lust or portion that is taking priority over the pursuit of intimacy with Christ in your heart if you guide your heart and make its focus knowing Christ then you will you will not fall the second truth is found in axis is now the barrier ages we have more noble character than those test Salonika for they receive the message with great eagerness and examine the scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true the distinguishing mark of this Berean Christians was that they spent time to cite the scriptures for themselves to know if what they had was true it was not enough that Paul was a great apostle and preacher they had to check if what he said was lining up on the Word of God with the Bible and only then did they believe the only way not to be deceived is to be deeply acquainted with the truth the Bible there's too much Bible illiteracy today I encourage you to spend time daily reading the Word of God and letting the Holy Spirit teach you you should be able to have read the whole Bible even within two years some of you need to go back and read the whole Bible don't just read some portion of the Bible and jump to others read it book after book until you've read the whole Bible before before you start reading the Bible every day Spencer to pray and ask God to teach you it's also a good thing together notebook and a pen and write down daily what you are learning this will make you grow deep roots and you will not be shaken okay this is where we stop today that was hear from you and let you know how God is using this show to encourage you and bless you contact us and please subscribe to our YouTube channel god bless you and see you next week bye bye next week on Jim stock Africa dr. John from Puli speaks on his passion to spread financial literacy around Africa and combat the errors of the prosperity gospel the biggest difference between televangelist who talk about prosperity gospel as you have said is that they will always tell you about giving money but they will never tell you or how to in other words what do you do with the money that God is entrusted to you next week on Jim's talk Africa this program is made possible by the generous financial support of believers just like you who share our heart to equip the African church to engage the issues facing our continents your financial support will help us continue this important work if you feel led to give to this ministry please visit our website today you [Music]

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Keywords: false, prophet, story, africa, falseprophecy, deception, discerning, God, Makhado Ramabulana, issue, concerns, false prophets, error in the church, error, heresy

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Length: 29min 29sec (1769 seconds)

Published: Tue Apr 23 2019