A Conversation with Sheryl Sandberg

great well hello and good afternoon thank you so much to our edc utah investors and our friends for joining us today i'm theresa foxley the president and ceo of the economic development corporation of utah and we are so thrilled to host you for what we expect will be an insightful and wide-ranging conversation between two individuals that i respect and admire first it's my pleasure to introduce you to our special guest sheryl sandberg cheryl serves as the chief operating officer of facebook overseeing the firm's business operations prior to joining facebook cheryl was the vice president of global online sales and operations at google and was the chief of staff for the united states treasury department cheryl is a renowned author having written lean in women work and the will to lead and having also co-authored option b facing adversity building resilience and finding joy in addition to her service on various corporate boards including facebook and surveymonkey cheryl is an active philanthropist working to build a more equal and resilient world cheryl and her fiance live in menlo park california with their five children cheryl it truly is an honor and thank you so much for joining us today thank you next i'd like to introduce today's moderator a great friend and partner to edc utah nubia pena nubia currently serves as the director of the utah division of multicultural affairs and she is also a senior advisor of equity and opportunity for utah governor spencer jay cox nubia has dedicated her career to bringing awareness to issues of anti-oppression and to building partnerships to advance diversity equity and belonging in the beehive state nubia is a lawyer by training and prior to joining the division of multicultural affairs she served as a juvenile defender edc utah is so grateful for the partnership that we've developed with nubia and for her willingness to lend her expertise to our growing emphasis on economic opportunity nubia thank you for joining us today and for moderating this conversation absolutely thank you so very much teresa it is such a pleasure to join you and to to serve in this capacity today well thank you again nubia it was really great to have you both here we have so much to cover uh so i'm going to turn it turn the time over to you and let you take it away excellent thank you so much and i do just want to stress and once again thank the team at edc utah for hosting and coordinating this event as well as facebook for being a strong partner in doing so um i also want to recognize that it was a lot of logistics and a lot of organizing that was required and cheryl to you thank you for sharing space for selecting utah as a partner in your efforts and for being willing to take the time to engage in conversation with us well thank you all for having me i uh i know when covet happened there were so many changes and i i know so much hardship there was loss in my family i hope there i hope there wasn't loss on others but i know there was um and i really missed getting to travel to the places that facebook calls home including places like utah and getting to meet with businesses and our partners and clients and then i started traveling virtually and so while i'm not with you in person today i am with you i've got to do a great small business roundtable with some amazing local businesses and i get to be with you here and while it's not quite the same i think it's much better than not doing this at all and i'm just grateful for you to you for hosting this virtual visit so thank you for having me oh thank you so much sheryl and especially when you talk about loss and how the pandemic has just really shifted the way that we've needed to do things that's going to be a great place for us to start in our conversation and so cheryl with this year and what it brought to us there were so many companies that have done well during the pandemic including the big tech companies meanwhile there were others especially small businesses that struggled what role do you see big tech company playing in the recovery so look it's a really important question because covid was not just a health crisis it was an economic crisis and it is an economic crisis i should use the present tense not the past tense and that includes for smbs we put out the facebook small business report and 25 percent of smbs in utah reported that they reduced their number of employees because of the pandemic and we obviously saw large numbers of small companies going out of business now i can't speak for my whole industry but i can speak for facebook and at facebook small businesses are the very heart of what we do there are 200 million small businesses that use our free products and so always in our work but particularly this year we asked ourselves what we could do to help now the first thing we do is we provide online tools before the pandemic a third of small businesses in the u.s did not even have a website no website and that's because it's expensive it's hard to build a website and most small businesses aren't coders i'm not a coder i wouldn't know how to build a website much less a mobile app and set up a facebook page or an instagram business profile in minutes and it's free and most people know how to do it because they are facebook or instagram users and that's why there are 200 small million small businesses using our tools now we provide digital school skills training 100 million have tuned in to facebook virtual programs in the last year alone but we also provided cash to keep the lights on 100 million dollar an essay 100 million in smb grants to 30 000 small businesses in 30 countries including 26 grants to small businesses in utah so i'm going to share an example and it's my favorite example i just met nat and nico dico this morning in our small business roundtable and this is so cool they took a leap of faith when they when the pandemic hit and decided to quit their jobs and become covenpreneurs so entrepreneurs during covid which is really brave but they taught me something i had never thought about which is the idea of urban farming so they have 0.2 acres of land in salt lake city and they started by making soaps and candles just to burn off their own stress but now and then hustling it outdoor farmers markets to sell their products but then they started selling online and now they have these amazing gift boxes and i ordered one this is the best selling soap you've ever had in your life it's the lincoln street farm pear berry filled gravy soap no seriously it is just absolutely amazing and they were in my uh salt lake city instagram gift guide but what they do is they use personalized ads on instagram and they look for people nearby who are interested in home guarding in home gardening and they ask them to come to their stall at the farmers markets and nearly everyone who's coming into their stall says that they saw their ad on instagram and the reason i love this example is most small businesses don't do their business online so no one can farm online right and they're not even selling online through us but they are advertising online and bringing people to what is a really off off offline um selling situation which is a farmer's market and and they're doing it beautifully it's pretty exciting and they did it through a pandemic which is even crazier what an incredible success story sharon thank you so much for sharing and i do hope that folks are learning the names of these incredible small businesses that are thriving especially in the time of difficulty so thank you cheryl for sharing that especially when we're hearing about the shift to e-commerce and how the potential for people to be able to grow their businesses that's exciting and speaking of pivoting i do want to talk a little bit about the amazing work that facebook is doing that many people might not know about so we talked about digital engagement and how we've had to now shift to live in a digital world well when the pandemic hit as people needed to work from home and schools needed to shift to online learning the pandemic brought to light the significant digital inequities that exist for historically underserved community communities and low-income households many people are unaware that through the data centers that facebook builds you're actually helping people to bring high-speed internet to communities that have not had access to broadband access can you talk a little bit about what facebook is doing and how you've helped to address the digital divide yeah we are very concerned with the digital divide because it's obviously really important people don't realize that there's a digital divide in the us people think of not people not having internet access in other countries that's not true it's also true here and it's really critical to people especially during code that kids need high-speed internet to attract 10 virtual school people need the internet to find jobs see their doctors connect with friends and family and so in march we completed a new long-haul fiber line linking facebook data centers in the east coast all the way to the indiana ohio border and we're already building another fiber line that's going to run from indianapolis along interstate 40 to the illinois border now these lines aren't just to improve connectivity between facebook data centers they improve broadband for homes and businesses and surround the surrounding area and we really care about that we tend to build this kind of infrastructure in areas in the us that last lack that kind of capacity and while we do it we expand broadband access to those in need we've also had a very special program for tribal areas giving making sure tribes have connectivity and and again people don't realize this in urban areas in dense urban areas it can be difficult to run fiber to every home so we've worked with partners to develop fixed wireless access that performs similar to fiber carol that is amazing and again i'm so grateful that you would think about your brand to not only talk about small and diverse businesses but the way that you can give back right and the power of facebook's brand is to do good and leave a lasting imprint for change and healing which is again really meaningful which leads to my next question and this has really a complex answer which i'm excited to hear from you so on may 25th we recently celebrated and unfortunately acknowledged the fact that so much has changed in the u.s and this was following the anniversary of george floyd's murder it's been a year since the racial reckoning has started and it has been deeply felt across the nation we have seen significant change we have seen significant commitments for ongoing transformation what has facebook done to invest and uplift black and multicultural businesses as well as the communities over the past year so you're right you know you're talking about how we all just mark the one-year anniversary of the murder of george floyd and it's obviously such a huge tragedy um but i do think it helped to create a greater consciousness of ongoing racial justice injustice and inequality in the if you look at black owned businesses they closed at two times the rate of other smbs during covid and so we did another 100 million dollar grant program to black owned businesses creators and non-profits 40 million of that was for businesses including five grants to black owned smbs in utah but it wasn't just grants it's obviously bigger than that and we realized that millions of people really want to help during this time 3.5 million people on facebook have joined new groups that are aimed at supporting black owned smbs since covet started and one of my favorite programs we did is called buy black friday so i think everyone knows what black friday is it's the friday after thanksgiving where people start their holiday shopping we worked with the us black chambers to put out a gift guide of black owned businesses so that people could put their money where their mouth is and support those businesses we're also very focused on training black and latinx smb owners we've committed to reaching a million black and a million uh latinx people by 2023 through a program we call facebook elevate so let me share one example of an amazing uh black owned business i had a chance this morning to uh meet amanda messen she left her job for five years at the start of the pandemic because she really wanted to be her own boss and she's very passionate about flowers and flower pressing to turn bouquets and flower arrangements into something that's custom framed as art um not the best time to start a business that depends on weddings right but she went online and she used social media and personalized ads to offer flowered pressing to brides not just inside utah but outside utah and this was great she used personal labs to reach people who were interested in wedding and flowers and she also helped find people who changed their relationship status too engaged or to i'm getting married which i think was very very cool but we know that black owned businesses that other diverse diver businesses owned by diverse populations they were hit harder in the pandemic and that means it's on us to help them even more thank you so very much sheryl and if people were interested in learning about the different businesses that you are all supporting is there anywhere on your on your site that they can visit yeah facebook.com business excellent thank you so much cheryl and going right into that conversation about how businesses of color have been historically underserved and immensely and disproportionately affected by the pandemic we also know that your role and your leadership has existed to elevate the story of women and you've been a huge advocate through your foundation so data suggests that women have also been disproportionately impacted by the pandemic there's something that's called the pink color recession so as someone who's been focused on this through your work can you tell us a little bit about what you're doing in terms of the recovery so that women can engage and can thrive post-pandemic yeah so we talked before about how covid was not just a health crisis it was an economic crisis but it's also a gender equality crisis full-on you know gender equality crisis from february 2020 to february 2021 women lost 5.3 million jobs and 2.5 million women left the workforce meaning they've stopped looking for work and that compares to 1.8 million men and as an example in april of this year so last month 165 000 women left the workforce and 355 000 men joined it so what does that mean 56 of women are in the workforce and that is the lowest point since 1988. i really want to say that again we're at the lowest point of female workforce participation since 1988 now my foundation lean m was one of the first to do research we put out research last fall saying that women were about to leave the workforce because of the pandemic and it's not that women don't need these earnings for their family they do it's just that before coronavirus we talked about women working a double shift they worked at home sorry they worked in the office or they worked in jobs wherever they were and then they came home and did most of the child care and housework and then it became a double double shift which is kids not in school daycare center closed elder care becoming more and more of a big deal and so we know that kids need to that sorry that parents had to had too much to do now now if if you have a straight couple both working full-time the woman is doing 71 hours a week of child care and housework the man is doing 50. that means that woman is doing 21 hours a week more which is half a full-time job if you're a black mother a latina mother it's even double it's even larger than that and so what do we need to do we need to make sure we have the right public policies we don't offer leave we do not take care of people in this country as we should we need to make sure we have the right corporate policies at facebook we've been looking very carefully to make sure that we are not losing our women in greater numbers and men and we are able to offer very extensive leave through coronavirus and i think more companies need to have the long-run view of saving their women now for the future sure what an incredible call to action to corporations to companies i will say that with the administration governor cox and lieutenant governor henderson are really committed to addressing this and discussing this and what's exciting is to see the alignment with our corporation so thank you cheryl for what you're doing at facebook and again inviting people to think about what are they going to do to make sure their policies support women in the workforce so speaking of you being a leader let's talk a little bit about silicon valley and and what your perceptions of utah are as a tech center what advice would you give to utah business leaders on how to continue to stay competitive in our evolving economy well look we think utah is a growing tech center and we're really glad to have a presence here we're building our data center in eagle mountain and we have a small engineering office in park city so why is utah attractive high skill talent very attractive place for people to live and work and that is increasingly not true in some other cities where where we are in very good infrastructure and so the advice i'd give and also a diverse workforce and an increasingly diverse workforce so the advice i'd give is the same advice i'd give to any any city working on this is education great planning so people have great have great places to live and great infrastructure and i think utah is doing all of that cheryl excellent and thank you because we do want to celebrate utah we want to celebrate what we're doing right and how we can attract other corporations but again knowing that facebook has selected us it really means so much and so we're hoping that you can continue to share the story of our partnership and how much this is a great place to bring your employees to so thank you so much now we do want to be mindful and we want to reserve some q a time for our audience um but i before i passed the time over to teresa cheryl you started off the conversation with mentioning loss and this is a little bit of a pivot but i wanted to invite us to engage through vulnerability with you because you've done so much you've carried so much and you're still leading out so this year has been incredibly difficult for people but for some most um for some more so than others particularly when they've lost loved ones and after your husband passed away you wrote about the challenges that you faced but how are you able to ultimately rebuild resilience and find joy again can you talk about that experience and potentially give advice to anyone who might be struggling right now so i think it's a beautiful question nubia thank you and and it's a question that goes to where we all are i did lose my husband suddenly a little over six years ago and there was a father-son activity that he was supposed to do with my then ten-year-old son and i was talking to my friend phil and i said we were coming up with other ideas of who could go with first my son to this activity his uncles phil etc and i looked at phil and i said but i want dave my husband like i want dave and phil said option a is not available so we're going to kick the fill in the blank out of option b and i think i have lived in option b and i think everyone is living in option b right now whether it's loss or fear or lost wages you know through our coronavirus pandemic that none of us expected we're all living in option b uh when i lost dave i said uh to my friend adam who's a psychologist how do i know how much resilience i have and he said that was exactly the wrong question resilience is not something you're born with a certain amount it's a muscle and we build it and we build it in ourselves and we build it in each other and i think the way we build it is knowing that the hard times the worst moments in our life they actually do make us stronger and if we pay attention they can make us more joyful and when i say this newbie i want to be really clear and careful i would give away the lessons i learned to have my husband back and the father for my children but i don't have that choice but on the other side there are things about my life that are not just recovered but that are better and i'll give you an example birthdays i used to make the jokes everyone makes i'm growing old i used to not celebrate my birthdays except the zero and fives but losing a husband at age 47 i realized oh my god you either grow older you don't i celebrate every birthday now every birthday i would never make a joke about growing old ever and i appreciate like the opportunity to grow old in a way i didn't that that is the joy more there is more joy every day for me in some ways because i appreciate things in a way i didn't before i'll give you an example from coronavirus right i wish we were there and we could ask the audience and i think it's changed now but if you had said six months ago when was the last time you had hugged a friend i didn't appreciate hugging a friend before this maybe you did but i didn't i always hugged my friends the first time and it was quite recently after i was lucky enough to get vaccinated in california opened up i helped a friend i was like oh my god i'm hugging a friend appreciated it in a whole new way cheryl i can't thank you enough for the vulnerability in that response um i didn't know it was going to touch me so hard but you're right we we have to just hold on to those moments find gratitude and recognize that every single moment counts and so cheryl thank you so much for for being willing to open up to our audience today not only as it relates to the tech business and how you are leading out this fierce corporation but also how you're healing and how you're you're you're moving forward for your family your children and you're leading out as an example to many of us so thank you cheryl for that so i want to be mindful that our audience wants to engage with cheryl and ask a couple of questions and so in order for us to transition to the q a i would invite our fierce leader theresa navigate this part of the conversation well thank you so much nubia as always you are an absolutely terrific presence and we appreciate you moderating this discussion which uh like you really touched me i'm actually quite bold over by by the vulnerability that you've displayed cheryl and and thank you for that and thank you for your authenticity uh for being so candid for sharing some inspiring stories of these amazing small businesses that you met with earlier today and for a great reminder to practice daily gratitude so thank you i am very excited to be able to turn our attention to a few questions that have been submitted by our audience and i would invite you to put in any additional questions into the q a which should be open in the zoom feature right now but for those uh we have a couple that were submitted at the time of registration i want to turn to one that was submitted by beth colossimo with salt lake community college's small business resource center and the goldman sachs 10 000 small business program beth thanks for submitting the question which is with so many changes to digital media platforms changing algorithms and new mediums cheryl how would you suggest that small businesses manage digital marketing in the most effective manner while also trying to keep their companies running and doing what they're expert at which may be pressing flowers or maybe urban farming or something else entirely well i think small businesses are like people on our products which is you want to be authentic people want to see the stories they want to see the people behind the business they don't want to just see a business they want to understand who you are and so the same way you share authentically you share authentically about your business it's also important not to be afraid to try new tools and features try facebook groups try going live even if it's just a few minutes you know that experience it's also worth learning from others i mean i learn from people whose posts i really like there's things i want to do differently on social media same thing for businesses and i'm going to share a local example i had another opportunity this morning to meet brent uberty who runs bw productions which is a video production company and what they do is they make business they have their business is making videos for clients now when covet had they didn't really have more business but as he said he was uh had one employee himself and so he wanted to survive but he also knew he needed to do it in a remote world he took it upon himself to learn how to use the digital tools on facebook and instagram to help other business owners create content for social media to promote their products during the pandemic and he started helping clients understand how to use facebook and instagram lives and virtual events and so perfect example of someone doing things online who never had before you know there's that saying don't waste a crisis i think what the what kova did was accelerate that move to online and i think as businesses are opening up a lot of businesses are going to try to hang on to their online business as they go back to in person and therefore grow that's pretty exciting indeed really exciting and i love hearing stories of small businesses helping other small businesses by using what they're expert in so thanks for sharing cheryl um we talked a little bit about uh corporate responsibility and creating cultures of inclusivity and workforce policies that advance and retain women and we had a great question that came in from barb johnson with cbre and that was how has a diverse workforce made facebook a better company so i was wondering cheryl if you could share a little bit more about how facebook thinks about talent uh with within the company and and how that impacts performance for your organization diversity has to be part of what we do not just because it's the right thing to do and it is and that's important it's also the smart thing to do diverse teams put out better products or more successful you know we build products for the whole world we need to do that using diverse talent our chief diversity officer at facebook is maxine williams someone i've just learned so much from over so many years of working together and she says all the time that it's not enough to hire diversity you have to harness the power of diversity so if you hire people with diverse backgrounds but then you have a culture where no one can speak out using their diverse backgrounds you don't get the benefit so what do we try to do we try to hire a diverse workforce we're doing better but we have a long way to go but then we really try to build a culture that harnesses that diversity we do uh bias training for everyone so people can recognize aggressions and micro aggressions we make sure that we put diversity at the center of what we do and the results that said are better for our business now one of the um things i mentioned before i said was one of my favorite programs we ever ran by black friday well that never would have happened without our diverse workforce remy and rachel are two black employees that came up with the idea after facebook helped help held open forums after the murder of george floyd we had open forums where we could all come together and discuss those forums were open to everyone they came they came up with buy black friday and that's a perfect example of not just hiring amazing people in but harnessing the power of diversity to come up with the ideas we need thank you so much cheryl that's a great reminder to leaders of organizations and i see several that are participating in today's call to to um acknowledge the different voices that they have within their organizations and and listen to them and what an advancement that can be within their organizations um but a lot of great questions that are coming through in the chat i want to take one um from michael parker here with ivory homes and thanks michael for submitting the question uh this is one related to remote work uh and a question related to this massive shift that we've all undertaken over the last year with work from anywhere work from home being part of our daily vernacular uh how has this changed your site selection criteria i think this will be interesting to to edc utah investors um so if you're looking at new additional offices uh what is that what does that look like now as as we have incorporated uh this flexibility into our into our lives and into our companies so as we look for remote offices or places to do data centers we look as i said before for great places to work places where we can hire places where we can grow our eagle mountain data center you know will create 1250 construction jobs at its peak uh 200 jobs in an ongoing way and it's a billion dollars of investment so we got to do that in a place that is very welcoming to business and can give us and can give us the things we need um and that's been really really important and as i said before we try to give back to the local community we do lots of programs and support lots of nonprofits work on infrastructure work very hard on renewable energy and that's how we really do site selection and then there's a question of remote work which is about working from anywhere so i'm in my house in menlo park theresa where are you i'm in my office in downtown salt lake but i've spent a lot of days in my basement over the last year yeah and we're not on a stage together and i i wish i could ask the audience where are you if you had asked me or if you told me a year and a quarter ago we're gonna send all your employees home overnight including tens of thousands of contractors who don't even have computers and we're going to keep the site up keep it running to keep protecting our community getting bad stuff off facebook keep shipping products i would have told you you were crazy in fact people had talked to me about remote work and i was not the biggest fan but it turns out that you and i can have a great conversation remote remotely and facebook we were able to build products and not just keep the lights on but keep our business growing and keep supporting all these amazing small businesses you and i have been talking about and so that means you can work from anywhere now how are we going to do that when it goes back goes back we're not 100 sure we're talking to our employees they want flexibility we want to give that to them but we also want to make sure that we keep building a culture where we can work together and so we are thinking it through but what i do know is there is more than work remote work going on and will be towards the future thanks cheryl for for sharing your thoughts on that um we have another great question in the chat from kim frost with utah the utah clean air partnership and it relates to uh to a couple of questions that i wanted to ask and also draw on one from beth holbrook with the utah transit authority but it's this utah has a strong entrepreneurial spirit as well as a culture of giving we have a number of non-profits in the state that have felt the impact of the pandemic and the question is can you share any examples of non-profits that have used social media and specifically facebook to continue to grow their organizations over the last year and wonder if you can answer that question with a lens both towards non-profits but also towards how public sector entities can communicate with their stakeholders as well yeah absolutely all the tools that are available people and small businesses are available and broadly used by non-profits we've announced that people on facebook have raised five billion dollars for non-profits now that's a big number but that is really small individual fundraisers i'll share one of my favorite examples you asked for an example a few years ago for international women's day i did a round table with some women who had supported non-profits and one of these women she said she volunteered for a local domestic violence shelter in her hometown and for her birthday she did a facebook birthday fundraiser and as she said it takes fifteen hundred dollars so a thousand five hundred dollars to save a woman and her children from an abusive situation and she did her birthday fundraiser hoping she would raise save one woman well she raised more about five thousand dollars she saved as she said at three and a quarter families but more importantly she said her friends realized she was involved in this shelter and they started doing birthday fundraisers and they started volunteering and so we see public sector groups including groups in utah non-profits using the power of facebook and they do it the same way people do it and the same way businesses do it they set up pages and profiles they put out their story and then they engage people in the mission of their work and that is super important to us i love hearing that and i love this new focus that i'm seeing as i am on social media as well uh as as people want to celebrate but they want us they want to do good through these celebrations and and that's terrific so thank you cheryl for sharing that example um we just all uh recognized and acknowledged uh memorial day weekend and we are so grateful for the service of our military veterans and and for uh what that means for platforms like facebook that allow us to engage in in conversations and important conversations uh and and i've got a question here from uh adriene week or wike i'm sorry if i mispronounced your name but i am a veteran and a military spouse retired with covid forcing a number of women out of the workforce and military spouses sitting at over 30 unemployment do you have any ideas on how to engage this uh important part of our community cheryl i do i mean it's something i really care about with my facebook hat on my personal hat on but also with my lean in hat on that there are such important communities military spouses has always been a challenge for jobs because you move so often as a military spouse and you often don't have control about when those movements are and i've met so many women when i visited bases or in my in my travels who are military spouses who have used facebook and instagram um to set up to set up communities and jobs one of them there was a military spouse who started uh helping people do virtual birthday parties for little girls that her little daughter had her daughter sorry little daughter her daughter who was obviously little had moved over the years and so she wanted to keep in touch with her friends so she this before coven started helping them do virtual birthday parties and it was a business that was helping to support her family uh and well thank you again cheryl for for sharing some of those examples and i do hope that this shift to remote work can enable and unlock this really important military spouse constituency uh as um as they are so mobile so thank you um you mentioned something earlier about uh about when you're thinking about site selection criteria you mentioned things like infrastructure and quality of life but you also mentioned facebook's emphasis on sustainability and have had a couple of folks reach out to me by text to ask about that so i was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing a little bit more about how facebook thinks about sustainability and how the company has invested in sustainability measures here in the state of utah yeah we really care a lot about this i know that everyone does as of 2020 our global operations are supported by a hundred percent renewable energy and that really matters and we think about it kind of from the ground up we think about it from designing construction to energy sources and water stewardship and responsibly managing the end of the life of our equipment we're also investing a lot of renewable energy in utah and across the us we have eight solar products in utah and the additional solar capacity facebook is adding is equal to 63 of the solar energy currently produced in the state and i'm really proud of that and facebook and rocky mountain power we've partnered to develop a renewal of energy rate in the state which is available to all qualifying customers so when we go in and do something for our own data centers and for our own our own use we work hard with local partners to make it available to people in the area too and our local partners are always um are always very supportive of that we're also very focused on water stewardship um our data centers are amongst the most efficient in the world we are 80 percent more water efficient than the average and our eagle mountain data center is recycling millions of gallons of water back to the community for reuse we've partnered with the central utah water conservancy district and we have two million cubic meters of water remaining in the olmsted reach of the provo river which has been chronically dewatered in the summer months so working hard with local partners to help locally awesome well thank you so much cheryl it's been really cool to have a front row seat to some of those uh investments that that facebook has been making in sustainability in our community and we're incredibly grateful for that um i have one last question from a good friend of mine vicki varela and and then i think we'll wrap up from there but that is uh turning it back to a little bit more personal and again i've appreciated your vulnerability through this conversation and in other forums where i've seen you speak but that is um what is the most important thing that your parents did to create a foundation for your success um you know my parents told me that i if i worked hard i could do anything i had a sister and a brother they never treated us differently they never said girls can't or boys should um you know um and they told me that it was about working hard and i try to tell my kids that and now this is has all this is all the growth mindset stuff that has names and you know theories to it but i think it really is what my parents did which is they said you know just keep working hard just keep trying hard if you don't learn it this time you'll learn it the next time opportunity for growth awesome well thanks cheryl that's great advice to uh to not only those of us who are who are bringing up little ones but to everyone i think in this conversation so thank you um i do want you to know as we wrap up we've had a couple of tremendous uh business people and entrepreneurs and individuals who i admire have wanted uh to say a note of thanks to you both darlene with tarracon who said that she was she'd use facebook to help grow her business when she was a consultant and that allowed her to spend some time with her young child as a mom and anna valdemaros who is a salt lake city council member but who also is an incredible entrepreneur and he's helped elevate other entrepreneurs through through her kitchen in in salt lake city but she says that she uses facebook and insta for all of her businesses including politics and personal use so it really is tremendous what this platform has done to help connect the world to help connect small businesses to those of us who who are in the marketplace and really to allow us to to celebrate and to to enjoy each other's company certainly i found social media to be even that much more important over this last year as connecting in person was harder and harder so i do want to say thank you uh on behalf of edc utah thank you for being here thank you for the investments that you have made in utah thank you for this conversation uh and a big thanks as well to our wonderful moderator nubia pena you are absolutely phenomenal thanks to your team cheryl they were terrific to work with and i would be very remiss if i didn't thank the edc utah team of mike o'malley elizabeth johnson stephanie froman and our partner william marks with facebook and of course i would not be doing my job as a as a booster for utah if i didn't also say go jazz game five tonight let's uh let's bring home the win tonight uh jazz so thank you everyone thank you so much for having me thank you nubia thank you theresa it was a pleasure thank you all take care

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