911 dispatcher Jena Scurry describes watching video of George Floyd's fatal arrest

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>> SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO START SHOWING EXHIBIT 11 AND I'M GOING TO LET IT RUN FOR ABOUT 15 SECONDS AND THEN I'M GOING TO POSIT OKAY? WOULD YOU DO THAT PLEASE? SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO POSIT RIGHT HERE, AS I SAID OTHER THAN CUTTING OUT THE BIG SIGN ON THE RIGHT SIDE DOES THIS FAIRLY DEPICT WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE WHEN YOU LOOKED UP AT THE SCREENS ON MAY 25 OF 2020 REGARDING THIS INCIDENT? >> CORRECT. >> AND YOU SAID WHEN YOU FIRST SAW IT WERE NO OFFICERS, NOW WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SEEN SOME OFFICERS WALKING INTO VIEW. WHERE YOU STILL ABLE TO WATCH IT WHEN THEY DID WALK INTO VIEW? >> I WAS IN AND OUT OF THIS VIDEO SO I DO NOT REMEMBER THEM WALKING TO THE CAR. >> ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER SEEING THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU LOOKED UP? >> I BELIEVE THEY WERE GETTING INTO THE BACK OF THE SQUAD CAR. >> AND DO YOU REMEMBER THEN THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE IT GENERALLY WHAT WAS DEPICTED? >> I BELIEVE THEY WERE STILL TRYING TO GET INTO THE BACK OF THE SQUAD CAR, IT WAS MOVING A LITTLE BIT AND THEN I WENT BACK TO MY SCREENS. >> AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THIS RUN AND IF YOU COULD JUST WATCH THE VIDEO AND TELL THE JURORS WHEN YOU WERE ABLE TO LOOK UP WHAT PARTS THAT YOU REMEMBER SEEING THAT DAY DURING YOUR SHIFT, OKAY? >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I BELIEVE THIS IS CLOSE TO WHERE I STARTED WATCHING. >> SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE SOME POLICE OFFICERS HERE, DID YOU RECOGNIZE THOSE INDIVIDUALS? >> NO. I DIDN'T WATCH THAT MUCH AND THEN THE NEXT TIME I LOOKED THEY WERE OPENING THE DOOR, I DO REMEMBER THAT. >> WHICH DOOR DO YOU MEAN? >> THE DRIVERS SIDE BACKSEAT. THIS IS WHAT I REMEMBER SEEING. >> SO FOR THE RECORD WE SEE THE OFFICERS NOW TRYING TO PUT MR. FLOYD IN THE BACKSEAT, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> THE TIMESTAMP ON THE TOP FOR THE RECORD REFLECTS ABOUT 8:17:10 WHEN YOU SAID THAT APPROXIMATELY. >> YES. >> NOW THE OFFICERS HAVE OPENED A REAR PASSENGER DOOR. THE REMEMBER SEEING THIS PART OF THE VIDEO? >> YES. I REMEMBER SEEING THE SQUAD MOVE. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY MOVE? >> SO NOW YOU CAN SEE THE SQUAD IS MOVING BACK AND FORTH. >> IT'S NOT BEING DRIVEN BUT MOVING BACK AND FORTH. >> RIGHT. >> FOR THE RECORD NOW THE TIME STEP, TIMESTAMP AT THE TOP IS -- APPROXIMATELY. >> AND I KNOW I WASN'T ABLE TO WATCH ALL OF THIS. >> SO AT SOME POINT HERE YOU HAD TO TURN AWAY AND DO YOUR JOB. >> YES. >> DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WAS THE NEXT THING YOU REMEMBER SEEING? >> THE NEXT TIME I REMEMBER LOOKING UP, THEY HAD MOVED FROM THE BACK OF THE SQUAD TO THE GROUND. >> SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT, LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL MAKE A REFERENCE TO IT AT THAT TIME. >> OKAY. I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHEN THEY MOVED TO THE GROUND I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN I LOOKED UP WE WERE NO LONGER IN THE BACKSEAT. >> BECAUSE YOU'VE TOLD US THAT YOUR MEMBER SEEING HIM ON THE GROUND, I WANT YOU TO POINT OUT THE TIME IN THE VIDEO THAT LOOKS FAMILIAR TO WHAT YOU REMEMBER SEEING WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU SAW THEM ON THE GROUND WITH HIM JUST SO THAT WE KNOW, OKAY? >> OKAY. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHEN I STARTED WATCHING AGAIN. >> SO FOR THE RECORD THE TIMESTAMP AT THE TOP REFLECTS -- SO THIS IS WHAT YOU MEAN BY THEM HAVING HIM ON THE GROUND? >> CORRECT. >> DO YOU RECALL HOW LONG YOU WERE ABLE TO WATCH AROUND THIS TIME? >> NO. HONESTLY, I WAS IN AND OUT OF LOOKING AT THE CAMERAS AND THEN GOING BACK TO MY SCREENS TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T MISSING ANYTHING, ADDING REMARKS AND GETTING OUT CALLS AND THEN I WOULD GO BACK TO THE SCREEN AGAIN. >> AND ACTUALLY I THINK WHAT I WILL DO IS JUST POSIT HERE. AFTER SEEING IT AT SOME POINT THEN DID YOU LOOK BACK TO THE SCREEN? >> BACK FROM WORKING? >> NO BACK TO THIS VIDEO. >> YES, I WAS IN AND OUT OF LOOKING AT THE SCREEN AND MY WORK. >> AND AT SOME POINT DID YOU GO BACK TO THIS AND STAY? AND HOW DID IT APPEAR WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO IT? >> IT HAD NOT CHANGED. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> THEY WERE STILL ON THE GROUND. THE WHOLE SITUATION WAS STILL THE SAME. >> HAD THERE BEEN OTHER CHANGES TO THE SCENE, WHERE THERE OTHER PEOPLE? >> I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE SURROUNDING US OF WHAT WAS GOING ON, I JUST KNEW THAT THEY HADN'T MOVED. >> ALL RIGHT. BUT AT SOME POINT DID YOU SEE OTHER CITIZENS IN THE VIDEO? >> I CANNOT REMEMBER SEEING THEM, I JUST REMEMBER LOOKING UP AND SEEING THAT THE SITUATION HAD NOT CHANGED. >> DO YOU RECALL APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG THAT WAS? >> NO. IT WAS LONG ENOUGH THAT I COULD LOOK BACK AT ALL TIMES. >> AND SO WHEN YOU DID LOOK BACK, STILL ON THE GROUND LIKE TO PICK IT HERE, DEPICTED HERE ESSENTIALLY? >> CORRECT. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU LOOKED BACK AND SAW THAT IT HAD NOT CHANGED? >> FIRST I ASKED IF THE SCREENS HAD FROZEN. >> WHY DID YOU ASK THAT? >> BECAUSE IT HADN'T CHANGED. >> DID YOU FIND THAT IT HAD FROZEN? >> NO. I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT FROZEN. >> DID YOU SEE THE SCREEN CHANGE YOURSELF? >> YES I SAW THE PERSONS MOVING. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK AT THAT POINT? >> SOMETHING MIGHT BE WRONG. >> WHY? >> WE DON'T GET THESE VIDEOS OFTEN, VIDEO AT ALL UNLESS IT IS LOOKING AT A BRIDGE OR JUST LOOKING AT PEOPLE WALKING, WE VERY RARELY GET INCIDENTS WHERE POLICE ARE ACTIVELY ON SCENE AND THEY HAD COME FROM THE BACK OF THE SQUAD TO THE GROUND AND MY INSTINCT WERE TELLING ME THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG. SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUT SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT. >> IN WHAT WAY WERE YOU THINKING THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT? >> IT WAS AN EXTENDED TIMEFRAME. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEY HAD NOT TOLD ME IF THEY NEEDED ANY MORE RESOURCES, A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT THINGS RAN THROUGH MY BRAIN BUT I BECAME CONCERNED THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE WRONG. >> WRONG WITH WHAT? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? >> IT WAS A GUT INSTINCT, IN THE INSTANCE SOMETHING ISN'T GOING RIGHT, WHETHER IT BE, THEY NEEDED MORE ASSISTANCE OR IF, I JUST KNEW SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT AND IT WAS A GUT INSTINCT AND NOW WE CAN BE CONCERNED. >> AND WHAT DID YOU DECIDE TO DO? >> I TOOK THAT INSTINCT AND CALL THE SERGEANT. >> DO YOU RECALL WHICH SERGEANT YOU SPOKE TO? >> IT WAS SGT. -- . >> AND WHY DID YOU CALL A SERGEANT? >> THE SERGEANT IS THE POLICE OFFICER SUPERVISOR. >> SO IT'S A POLICE OFFICER BUT YOU ARE NOT A POLICE OFFICER? >> NO. >> YOU HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH USE OF FORCE TRAINING. >> NO. >> BUT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE YOU FELT SOMETHING WAS WRONG IN THE SERGEANT NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. >> CORRECT. IF THIS WAS A FORM OF USE OF FORCE I WAS CALLING TO LET THEM KNOW. >> WHY WOULD YOU INVOLVE A SERGEANT IN A CALL THAT MIGHT INVOLVE USE OF FORCE? >> SERGEANTS ARE ALWAYS NOTIFIED FOR USE OF FORCE. >> SO DID YOU IN FACT CALL SGT. --? >> I DID. >> HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR CAREER BEFORE CALLED A SERGEANT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? >> FOR AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS? TO BE EXACT, NO. >> OKAY. >> WHERE YOU HAVE THIS INSTINCT AND FELT SOMETHING WAS WRONG YOU NEEDED TO CALL A SERGEANT ABOUT IT, HAVE YOU EVER HAD THAT SITUATION BEFORE THIS INCIDENT? >> IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH A CALL, YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS, I CAN CALL A SERGEANT FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE A RESOURCE AND IF I'M WRONG AND I'M WRONG. BUT I CAN CALL THEM REGARDING CALLS IF SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT IN A CALL, IF THERE'S A CAUTION NOTE OR SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE CALL I CAN CALL THEM. >> AND HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO A RECORDING OF THAT CALL YOU ACTUALLY MADE? >> YES. >> AND THAT RECORDING IS MADE AS PART OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CALL CENTER, IT RECORDS THAT TRAFFIC? >> EVERYTHING IS RECORDED. >> AND WE PLAYED A RECORDING OF THAT FOR YOU PREVIOUSLY >> YES. >> AND WAS IT ACCURATE? >> YES. >> WE HAVE NOW MARKED THAT AS EXHIBIT 12 AND YOUR HONOR WE WOULD OFFER EXHIBIT 12. >> 12 IS RECEIVED. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL PLAY THE CALL ALL RIGHT? >> 1430 44 MAY 25, 2020. >> THIS IS CHANNEL 1. >> WHAT'S UP? >> SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT -- I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU CAN CALL ME A SNITCH IF YOU WANT TO BUT WE HAVE CAMERAS UP FOR 320S CALL, THEY MUST HAVE ALREADY STARTED MOVING HIM. AND 320 OVER AT CUB FOODS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD TO USE FORCE OR NOT BUT THEY GOT SOMETHING OUT OF THE BACK OF THE SQUAD AND ALL OF THEM SAT ON THIS MAN SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEEDED YOU ARE NOT BUT THEY HAVEN'T CALLED IT INTO ME YET. >> THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING. BUT I'LL FIND OUT. >> OKAY. NO PROBLEM. WE DON'T GET TO EVER SEE IT SO WHEN WE ARE SEEING IT WE ARE LIKE WELL, IT'S DIFFERENT. THANK YOU. >> YOUR ALL RIGHT. >> SO LET'S WALK THROUGH THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. AT THE VERY BEGINNING YOU SPOKE KIND OF FAST AND IDENTIFIED YOURSELF AND DESCRIBE FOR THE JURY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. >> I TOLD HIM MY NAME IS JENNA AND THAT I WAS CHANNEL 1 DISPATCH. >> SO THAT'S DISPATCH FOR THE THIRD PRECINCT. >> CORRECT. >> THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING INVOLVING A KNIFE, IS THAT RELATED TO THIS CASE AT ALL? >> NO. >> THAT WAS FROM SOME OTHER CALL. >> CORRECT. >> AND THEN YOU USED THE TERM SNITCH. >> YES. >> WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> AT THAT MOMENT IT WAS A WORD THAT JUST CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH BUT IT'S OUT OF THE SCOPE OF MY DUTIES TO CALL A SERGEANT IF THERE WAS ANY USE OF FORCE. >> SO THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE, WILL TELL ME THAN WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF MAKING THAT CALL TO HIM AND GIVING HIM THAT INFORMATION? >> VOICING MY CONCERNS. LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T SEE INCIDENTS, MY JOB IS MAINLY ALL LISTENING. >> AND BY THE TIME YOU MADE THAT CALL YOU SAID SOMETHING TO THE SERGEANT ABOUT OH, DID THEY TAKE HIM ALREADY. BY THE TIME YOU MADE THE CALL WERE YOU STILL ABLE TO SEE THE VIDEO FROM THE STREET CAMERA? >> YES THE VIDEO WAS STILL UP. >> AND WHAT DID YOU SEE AT THE TIME YOU MADE THE CALL? >> THAT NOBODY WAS THERE. >> SO YOU WERE AWARE AN AMBULANCE HAD COME TO THE SCENE? >> YES. >> BUT THE AMBULANCE WAS NOT IN THE VIDEO AT THE TIME? >> CORRECT. >> IS THAT THE REASON YOU MADE THE REFERENCE TO THEM BEING GONE? >> YES. I WAS SPEAKING TO THE REST OF MY TEAM OVER THERE AND ASKING A QUESTION TO THEM WHILE STILL ON THE PHONE WITH THE SERGEANT. >> SO PROBABLY A BETTER TIME FOR ME TO ASK THIS QUESTION BUT HAVE YOU EVER PRIOR TO THAT DATE MADE A CALL LIKE THAT TO A SERGEANT? >> NO.
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Channel: CBS News
Views: 972,794
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Keywords: Jena Scurry, 911 dispatcher, testimony, derek chauvin, george floyd, police brutality, racism, social justice, racial justice, police, Minneapolis, court, CBSN, CBS News, live news
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Length: 17min 48sec (1068 seconds)
Published: Mon Mar 29 2021
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