6. The Ismailis : Nizaris and Bohra | Dr Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Eve of 6th Muharram | 05/09/2019

Sam Hill Kareem bismillah ar-rahman ar-rahim Paula's a local Mohali he admin ll more data feel horrible the first of our salah watson on rasool allah muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa ali was a lamb the second one of amirul mumineen Allium never holidays the third with your loudest voices in honor of the Imam of our time imam sahib i lastly was Zaman respected scholars brothers and sisters Salam alaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh the Smiley's are recognized as one of the most important sects in the Muslim world today they are seen as a sect within CIE thought and indeed you find that they have many millions of followers around the world some numbers ranging between 15 to 20 million followers around the world today normally the most famous of the Shia are the if not sure is when normally people discussed the term Shia they normally discussed the 12 volts those who follow the path of God the Prophet and the 12 Imams of and invade salawats allah wa sallam ala him however you find at the same time there are a number of other sects that have existed within the Shia amongst them for example the sadie's find that there are millions who categorized themselves as 80 Shia as ad Shia someone who follows the first four Imams of and follow Imam al imam al hassan Imam will for say as well as imam zein al ality and then after imam zain al-abideen they follow Zaid the son of imam zain Authority the twelve votes will go on to follow Imam al bathra days whereas you find that when it comes to the Zaidi's where many of them are in the land of yemen many of the ladies of those who follow up to saved the son of imam zain and have attained and then after that you will see that they continued with Zaid onwards then you have the smiley's smileys you find occupy prominent positions in Islamic history that's one point one of the greatest empires and the history of this religion was an aspiring Empire one would find it surprising considering this my leaves are as private and secretive as one may argue the Hodja and then when one traces the roots of the Hodja they find out why you find that when it comes to the smileys in the world today many of them of course lived in East Africa others live in India over half a million smileys live in Pakistan a big community you'll find also in China and Russia likewise there's a huge community of smileys in Syria who were also the victims of bloodshed and oppression and executions when Isis wants into Syria therefore when we come to examine the smileys there is a need for us to be able to examine this my alias because they are part and parcel of our pluralistic society when I live in Leicester or I live in Africa or I live in North America amongst the Muslims that exist there are mostly so many different sects and denominations there is a need for us to come out of our ignorance and only believe in ourselves as chosen by allah subhana wa ta'ala as in there is a need for us to explore the beliefs of others no doubt there is now actually 12 oz and they smileys have clear differences with each other and these differences i will elucidate upon in the analysis tonight but as human beings we should not just always focus on our differences many human beings in the world today only focus on their differences not on their similarities so when you look at the levels of dialogue within the religion of Islam Allah subhana WA Ta'ala made it clear that you could have dialogue as humans you can have dialogue as people of the book and you can have dialogue as Muslims as human beings the carranza di you are not in Kalapana come in daiquiri wanza where Joel now comes shoroma what a vile elite sorrowful in nomicon and a lie at home o mankind we created you from male and from female from different races and different tribes in order that you get to know one another that best amongst you in the eyes of God is the one who has the best supply on consciousness that's what one level with me and an atheist you may find that they may not necessarily have that God consciousness but we both originated male and female different tribes we could get to know each other on the second level with those who have similarities with me in the world of Christianity and Judaism olia al khattab Tejano Alaka limiting Sawa and bein a now Elena come and learn a Buddha Lama when I go she can be Shia while I had such as baboon abhava nada bottom in June Allah o people of the book Jewish Christian living in the UK let's come to a joint word between us and you that's on the second level much on the third level the one that's missing the most is Muslims talking to each Muslims will engage in interfaith dialogue much when it comes to insure of faith they will not visit each other's senses in some cases they'll close their senses from others visiting them that does not help the world of dialog we all came from different ships now we're on the same boat came from different boats were on the same ship in the sense that we came from different areas now we're together in the UK maybe in Iraq and I lived in around my whole life I would never have met any smiley and if somebody had lived for example in Saudi Arabia their whole life they would never have met and smile but you look at other places in the world you'll find that those of you here from India and Pakistan a bunch of had friends who were smile those of you here from East Africa probably had friends who were smile all new neighbours who are smiling or classmates who were smiling when we are friends with each other is that enough for us as an is it enough just to be a friend why are the doors of dialogue closed between us listen why can we not in Muharram share each other's grief for a little bit every Muslim believes that is incumbent upon each other to show love and respect for the Prophet peace be upon him and his family you find therefore that's when we come to look at the Smiley's we look at the discussion of the societies to open up our breadth of knowledge our breadth of wisdom as in what's number and Jose Herrera members were saying was not just a ritualistic performance every year man is an enemy of that which they are ignorant of you find that now when we discuss their Smiley's if you ask him smiley they will say that we are not is my ears we call to the dour of the one God it's my Ally is a political title that is given to them but they call towards what the summons towards the belief in one God there are other false beliefs which we attribute to the smiles and you find therefore that when Muslims keep telling the media don't generalize about us Muslims don't make false beliefs about us maybe sometimes we make false beliefs about others maybe there are times where we generalize about others there are times where we may accuse others of believing some people - they don't you may know when to smile if you ever ask them what's your belief about Allah what's your belief about the Holy Prophet what's your belief about the Imams do you believe in the day of Kadir do you believe in imam ali juban even what's happened in Caramella what happened to call you it's my idea why did you follow it's my Allah and not follow Imam muscle car does that mean you hate imam moussa Kaaba because you have in the world today within the smileys you have the nursery's who are known as the Hassan II can it's of course a title which was given only within the last couple of hundred years or so that was given towards the head of the Nazari school otherwise he is seen for them as what he's seen for them as an imam who's Baha who people can see clear likewise you have the bahara or the bahara they are a prominent community many of us when we go see ara you see many of the bottle and Zia many of them there beating their chests in honor of Imam al-hussein many of them they're lovers of Imam al-hussein many of them honoring that centromere have ROM and in honoring that sin the Muharram there is a need to know about them as well therefore when a man convention came together in Jordan we found that the king wanted to bring all the Muslims together irrespective of their different sects that now when we have a mejlis of Imam Husain and I see in front of me someone praying with their hands folded I see someone praying with their hands down I will never block anyone from coming to a mosque or a message or a Jose Nia if they are a lover of muhammad ali muhammad salla watts allow assalamu alaykum that a man declaration was what was that declaration to try and bring whom Hanafy Maliki Shafi humbly Sadie smiley no actually a Barbie bring them all together like why such a blueprint is required for us when we live in the UK that we all come together the group that don't want to come together that shows that they have a particular fear within their own ideology you find that if you don't want to come together with another Muslim what is it about your ideology that you fear if you feel your ideology it's a strong ideology one builds on wisdom you have no problem talking to other Muslims you're relaxed you're comfortable you're more than welcome to come and talk to me only when you know you have gaping holes in your ideology or if you have a sense of arrogance against those who are less than you will you not joke with each other therefore tonight let's examine this important school within the religion of Islam in order that's were able to remove the ignorance that exists but also come to know a number of important answers number one how important is the Holy Prophet peace be upon him in his family to the smileys and what is the difference that may exist on the conception of the prophets authority between the Ismaili and then actually number two how important is image as a concept within is Mihaly thought and what is their belief when it comes to the day of God year number three why did they stop at imam sadiq and go to his mind why didn't they continue like the twelvers with Imam Musa al-salaam and what is our opinion about smile son Muhammad do we believe that he was loyal to a lil beige or do we believe that sadly he was involved in the killing and the imprisonment of him a muscle car bomb number 4 which great Muslim empire was headed by this my alias and which famous seminary in the Muslim world was named after fundamental surah number five what are the differences between us and it's my ADA George Joe is my 80s pray what is their prayer do they do hatch what is their hide therefore what's our opinion number six can you pray in anis my illegitimate son if not why not does this require a bit further analysis number seven and of the utmost importance what's their opinion when it comes to the concept of the Dawa and how do they if you say here the saying that beginning the Dawa of the work of a little age after Caravela let's examine this and dissect the topic and complete their Smiley's as we said believe in themselves as being called the Dawa the dead were taught to the oneness of Allah and therefore to the belief in prophethood when they believe in the Holy Prophet peace be upon his family automatically they therefore believe in the Shahada tane do you all agree that when a person says a shadow and Lila and Allah well shadow Ana Muhammadan Rasul Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Muhammad Ali Mohammed that person automatically is a Muslim today if someone convert they want to marry my sister they convert my dad says listen I'm not sure this guy is converting because he believes in the religion or he just wants to marry your sister the moment they utter lie ilaha illallah muhammadan rasul allah and of course when they utter that they are under the very rubric of the religion of islam their blood is to be honored they are to be protected they are to be recognized as Muslim recognized this mean that is a bit of a different story yes Muslim anyone can be under la ilaha illallah muhammadan of course if someone believes in allah and allah and muhammad rasool allah what if he has hatred to elevate on it Sarah if someone has a hatred in beige then he falls under the category of north or now a slip many of our brothers in other schools in Islam may not believe in the angle base as being the Imams but they love and in love normally because of association with the prophets rather than understanding or belief I love a mammal for saying why do you love him and I say oh because it's grandson of the Prophet that's all he is grandson that's all that's the only reason you don't wanna say so not the sermons the intellect no because he's the grandson it was a child and the Prophet lot that's all no problem even when you love Imam al-hussein like this no problem but what happens if you have hate against idol date but you believe in the shahadat same then you fall under the category so be nice if it's Haram to marry them or to marry from them completely Haram so you got to remember that this whole idea that just because someone utters the shahadat same and then go some bombs genital body someone goes to bomb genital behave and they utter the Shahada tale someone concerned I say but they almost okay publicly we all say everybody is a Muslim but when a person utters the shahi detain that person automatically if they have hates of Allah Muhammad they are a nasibi that person is out of the fold and stuff what if someone arts is the Shahada tane but is sinful say you have someone who believes in Allah and Allah believes in mohammed rasoolallah but it's a sinful person that's one may fall under cats if you are being a faster still a Muslim but a sinful Muslim that BOTS a lot of early theological debates on this issue what if someone believes Lila and Allah loves the holy prophets but doesn't believe he's the final prophet of God then that opens another kind of worms because if I believe in line Allah part of my belief has to be that he is the final messenger when we say that he is the seal of the prophets that's not me and seal that I got my seal and I stamped it and that's on a letter no seal means that he is the hunter is the person who's the seal of the prophets of Allah therefore that person who it's the finality of prophethood that's another issue altogether but when you come to their Smiley's aha they believe in Mohammed they believe in this automatically they are believers in their Shahada and they believe in the Holy Prophet a as a moral exemplar the Holy Prophet came with a message in namib or actually Oh tell me mama caramel Allah I have come with a mission what's my mission to ensure the completion and the perfection of the moral example of the prophets will come before me prophet is a moral exemplar no doubts secondly political guides that the Holy Prophet peace be upon his family was the head of the states in Medina he was able to establish a constitution like the constitution of Medina that's Hammacher number three spiritual guides there is no way I can reach Allah light without believing in Muhammad as the messenger of allah sallallahu aleyhi wa salem i have to alarm O'Fallon god why not just because it's a random arab it's because he receives revelation from the Lord he speaks on behalf of the Lord therefore he is a spiritual guide for me as well as Smiley's therefore believe more on political spiritual habit legal what if he Institute's our law from his Lord he tells the people there is a law sometimes you will find a smiley community will not open up too much about him giving us a legal system dance you find that the holy prophets in the Quran amongst these functions was to provide us with a legal framework that legal framework that we have we see in the Quran there may be 500 or so legal verses in these legal verses in the Quran cannot just be dismissed when the holy prophet comes with verses from the heavens these verses are for you and me legally they are a guide for me say for example of essays that they ask you about alcohol and gambling that's it say it is from the impurities of Shaba that means that I cannot trade an alcohol I cannot drink alcohol I cannot buy stocks and alcohol companies automatically that law tells me that there's a prohibition when it comes to alcohol I could not believe in the holy prophets and in Allah but be somebody who has an alcohol business I visit this Imam bargah regularly because it couldn't even fall into that trap I drink the whole year but for 10 nights of Muharram is for a mammal or saying now there are some people in Muharram what they say is that they say that we don't listen to music in Muharram why so because harem Imam Hossein and how about the lord of imam hossein the whole year what's happened to him so know what what we compartmentalize religion I follow a legal system the whole year some say I don't watch TV in Muharram that's another extreme no one's saying to you to switch the TV off there are things on the TV which keep me aware of the world increase my Elly yes of course these things which take me away from Allah subhana WA Ta'ala I probably shouldn't be watching those things anyway but you find that people compartmentalize when the Quran the only Prabha come to the law I cannot say that listen there is a law about alcohol but as long as I donate to this imam bargah i give huge donations then I can cover my drinking or my selling of alcohol my stocks in alcohol can I know therefore the Holy Prophet when he establishes a law that lost parts of my everyday life likewise the only prophet says you cannot gamble you cannot trade you could not come trades in the gambling world open a gambling company go to all these casinos and establish one someone says but what if I don't need to my Imam bargah what if I donate to the mosque I promise I'll make money from gambling but I promised that 10% of that money will go to the Imam would mean sentence so keep the money to yourself keep the money that money has no barakah in it the Quran prohibits and the hadees pro is gambling why do I say this because when I look at my holy prophet visible Semele adds the authority I cannot just choose bits and pieces of what suits me in his authority I cannot just say moral therefore I'll be moral spiritual therefore obviously legal there's not gonna be any legal aspect whatsoever and if not we believe we believe I love Allah until the diode Haram Oh Mohamed Haram until with its qualifications of course and with an understanding of the traditions of course but when a person turns around says my belief in the Prophet is only moral or is only spiritual holds only political know the Eagle aspect cannot be dismissed alongside these other frameworks therefore they believe in the holy prophets and it's not like this my keys don't have laws it's mine he's had some proficient legal minds having not mine amongst others their famous works exist until today but you find that you may come across some members of the smiley community today who may say to you that it depends what the Imam says now about those laws if the Imam has his opinion on those words why do they say that Iman because II my match is important for them the way it's important for us if you want to see a sect within Shearson who celebrates the idea they're smart he said celebrate the day of Eid I was invited to the jama at Hannah and Toronto a few years ago I spoke on the day of Guardian where for the smile if you are sometimes Smiley's celebrate but here smile it is have a profound love for aliens every morning they love Amir al-mumineen what is there not to love about any other moment only there's not much which you cannot love about every moment you love em you don't know many there's no one like I'm even what many in they love amirul mumineen a great love they love abou pylyp they do not say I'm upon it they say Imam Abu pardon when I saw the flyer and the website for my lecture in Toronto it wasn't written a book on we in our Imam bargah sometimes write abou pilot alehissalaam don't do it they write imam abu polyp because abu talib is the one who carried the nor of Ibrahim therefore he is an imam smile say imam abu pal but maybe that's something we need to introduce that instead of us saying Ababa Elena we should say Imam and they love Ali and they celebrated here and they believe that Islam was complete with Mohammed but became perfect with the will ayah of a leave Nepali along [Music] let's have a second louder one and a third supersonic louder we bring up our sons loving Ameer al-mumineen it comes from the milk of your mother that love of Ali comes from the milk of the mother and we're honored if you do end up killing us loving Ali is a big honor you've not you've done me a favor you find this my Ely what does he say says imam abu Pollan he loves imam ali he believes him the way liar of Imam Ali Allah's Salam on that day of that year Allah tells the Holy Prophet peace be upon him and family make an announcement to all of them make it clear and the Prophet makes it clear first you buy quote change surah 33 verse 6 if he doesn't call surah 33 verse 6 then the word Molla has many meanings but when he quotes sort of 33 by sixes and maybe you oh Allah Belmont mean I'm an alpha see him don't I as a prophet has a great have a greater right of authority over you the new do over yourselves men consume Allah hahaha allahumma wali man wala yd man ah da one phenomena surah love o Allah be a guardian to the one who takes a highly son of abu pallav as his guardian and be an enemy to the enemies of ali yes you find therefore that they believe I'm not they ready not just Imam Ali they believe in his knowledge of the apparent and the hidden and the fact that nobody knows that levels of the meaning of the on like imam ali meghana why because the holy prophet said i am the city of knowledge and elicits gates therefore if the holy prophet is a walking for are likewise Imam Ali Allah's Salam is what imam ali is likewise the walk if quran therefore they believe that if you want to see the talking quran you look no further than any other luminaries therefore do they believe in imam ali they love Ameer al-mumineen then after that of course we for us if now actually is Imam Ali then Sri a the biggest honor is Imam Hassan Ali we honor Imam al-hussein in these nights let's not forget imam and hussain the one he looked up to was Imam in Hassan Ali his elder brother he admired him you may find that there are some within that circle who jumped from imam ali to imam hussain for us there's no jump imam ali imam al hassan mohammed for sea and no was it for us that imam al hassan son has to be the next leader it doesn't go to your son's it goes to who Allah chooses so what about sons we're not talking here about a monarch um or Howie and Yazeed all of them stop bringing their children in know Allah knows where best to put his so unless allah after my malik mom cousin then you could have put imam hassan one of his sons couldn't you but no he went towards who am i meant for saying i sir likewise that smileys continued their Imams from the line so I must say until where where the split comes in homicide yeah for their smart a leaves as you know in mom's side I've had a number of sons we follow in my Muhsin Gotham Imam who sell cotton was the third son of Imams side he wasn't the first son first son is mine then he had Abdullah and then he had muscle come to some because smile is the eldest and he must be one was dilemma but for us is one bad who the eldest is who are lost on words Allah for us this is and I'm not disrespecting the beliefs of others in our at national opinion we believe it's clear that Imam Musel karma was the success rather than it being who is smile and even imam as-sadiq we have in our traditions not only does he point tree mom in karate but also is my died before imam smile died before Imams so how then could a smile be the imam after unless you begin to believe in a concept of the occultation and rabbi which continues from there that they say when it smile died imam sadiq pointed to everybody is he dead is he dead so he was wise mama start up saying is he dead is he dead his son has that may be grief emotion has overcome him no it's Imam wanting to make me check that he is dead because later on somebody might come out and say he's alive or he's in labor and so on for us secondly muscle car bomb leaves thousands of traditions about Islam behind nobody else comes near him a most of the Jaffa in his yes even what they is that he was in prison a man will come on the legacy behind was something quite unique the patience of the Imam unique that I biases were after him they wanted to finish him and who do you think it was that led to the imprisonment of the Emma Imam Assad of Sun is mine after his - my he started a line of Imams from isma eel then his son Mohammed for us Muhammad is not somebody we Revere at all in al-kafi Ali the son of a homicide mama sada also had a son called Annie so he has who is my Al Abdullah Musa he has a son called I live in Java and even Jafar is one of the greatest hola Maya and the school event in beige we have a book that still been with us until today which is called Meza and I leave in Java narrated that we have this text message and I leave in jafar ali bin jack phone shows you that just because someone's the son of an imam or grandson of an imam doesn't mean that they'll always be loyal to a particular part and when i narrate the story once again in no way am i insulting anyone who reveres Mohammed bin I smile cuz this Miley's went to Mohammed and then all the way they continued for us no Mohammed - my lil cease Ally even Jack far we're at all Marah they've on chambra and Mecca they see each other when they see each other I live in jaffa of course is the uncle of mohammed bin smile in mohammed - my sister my uncle I want to visit my uncle Musa Hodja and I want to visit him before I go towards Baghdad for there is something I want in behind but Dad at that time who was ruling but that a buses a bias it's world ruling who was ruling Harun al-rashid you are a grandson of a Neela I want to go to Baghdad he says he was an Omaha he comes to an even Jaguar he says to my want to visit my on Wednesdays I want to be my own do as an indication that I want you to take me because I don't think my uncle is necessarily on maybe he was scared that Imam was he'll cover may not welcome him no and then Bates are above all a lil' wage will always do you good even when you do bad variations mentioned that he came with his uncle in the Jafar they came to Imam Musa and Jeff came to the Imam he said to him o Imam there is Muhammad the son of his MA he wants to see you he's going to Baghdad he wants to see you before he goes man said to him watch him coming and he came he kissed the umma you kiss the Imam he said to the Imam Imam my life be sacrificed for you how ironic some words turn actually may my life be sacrificed for you the time heading towards Baghdad now and I want to say Salam to you is there any advice you could give me is that fair Allah and being the cause of my death is that to him may I be sacrificed for his then you advise and fear Allah and being the cause of my blood being shed my death as Danny advice you could give me fair Allah being the cause of my blood being shed he said to him may Allah punish the one who causes your blood to be shed because normally you'll have situations that occur in the Muslim community where the one who appraises you the most in your face is the biggest backstabber online your face is our village attack attack attack said I'm on a call whenever is a little bit saw more it's that term may Allah curse the one who does this to you he is leaving for my dad i'ma say you saw a little Jaffa give him 100 G 100 you know one DNR is tender huh and a dinar is gold Adara hammer silver give him 100 Tina give him a number hundred give him another hundred for he's going on who's true a mom knows what this is gonna lead to why he's going to Baghdad to meet Harun al-rashid to raise a problem for imam muscle come to be sent to prison I live in Jabbar says I looked at if I'm not accustomed hola why you given him you know what she is heading to do he replied by saying that when you make that family relation with someone if they break it they should be ready for a last term to end their lives breaking family relations Breaking and what does breaking mean either you break off from family or you break the family two types there's the one who breaks off from family there's the one who breaks they destroy your family they don't make cousins talk to each other they don't make family talk to each other no that's when someone from your family has done good to you you doing bad to them will mean that your death is made nearer hold on I thought my death is written my death is written I'm gonna die at seventy one of the acts that causes Allah to change the age of when you are gonna die and make it sooner is when you break family relations a lot of times I had I didn't notice no medical mode has the age when medical mode thinks it 70p sees a change in the number it's his knowledge that changed a lot always knew when you were gonna die you can talk to your cousin bring family together no I'm not bring a family together I insist that's the way I am no no no you insist then don't be surprised when Bella comes in your life or when your death suddenly comes upon you then Iman said give him this three thousand that I have to help him with his journey so look how on Mohammad they know that this person is gonna go to the bottom accuse he's gonna go too hard on a Rashid and he's gonna tell him what does he tell haroon rasheed that most of the Jafar is causing trouble for you they can arise against Imam Musel catalyst disagreed in Doha and he led to a man being imprisoned Imam was moved from how many prisons one person to another one person two for prisons a mimosa government in his lifetime and who's there cause your own nephew subhanAllah this world you'll get your own nephew sometimes or your own family member is the biggest enemy you face as a villain habil saw with each other therefore Mohamed - my need for us death naturally yeah is not praiseworthy whereas we believe that it could have why / - this - after that after Mohammed smile 150 years of secrecy because of the persecution of the opposites and then after that they established one of the greatest empires which Empire the fire permit Empire fathom it was not as naturally imply it was a smiley Empire Egypt the fast amid Empire was arrival to the Abbasids later on arrival to the seljuqs there was a seljuq rivalry that time of the Smiley's and one of the most famous seminaries in the Muslim world was originally a smiley today it's the most famous house of for a listener and as our University we have Najaf we have on our brothers have lslam and as have many great anima graduate robe lesson another group builds another named after father and son by this one it is people think that I'll answer her because it teaches only for example the fifth of the other schools in Islam they think has manushya she I was the ones who established and as hard and as hard was established by the it's my Alize when it was established by that smileys it left a legacy of learning behind it for many years sadly that al-assad would not teach the book so very late in the last century shared mutual truth amongst others said that the jack for each school is a school of law and you had that remnant remaining but when that far from it Empire fell and the Mongols also ended up finishing that is my 80s for a certain period it's my community went into secrecy for 700 years now with their Imams if you look at their Imams you'll find that at around Imam number 21 there is a split and that split is watch results in other Hani's and bora so today when people call bora they say i met a smiley or i met a Bora Bora is PI D AB ahora is a smiley but they are following the Imam until they came to a split that split one school where the nazar is and the other school of what the other school whether must dies the most Ali is their leader until today on the lead of the Bora he doesn't see himself as the Imam chosen by Allah he sees himself as the guide through the Imam the guide shudder among they said the Imam went into Haber whereas their other Chinese who follow as a sign they believe that he is the Imam the 49th Imams remember we don't stop at Imam Mehdi r12 you're gonna continue and continue and continue and continue so in someone today says to me say it I'm Mars you call me say that I'm modest because there's a recognition of a continuation as I'm a moon so we say yet continuation but for them not and continued the Imam as well that means the other hand is an imam to them and Imam of God continuing the line of the Atlin bait Halima sir being an imam they say that he has all the qualities of an imam and therefore this brings about a difference between us because to us a person who doesn't believe in the 12 Imams and goes on to 49 Imams it's not somebody that we necessarily take as our lead don't take a muscle you buy someone else but there isn't a borrower of imam moussa column this is a vital point you won't find in a smiley for example or follows al-assad who will curse Imam Musa you won't find them attacking my mother girl but you may find that there was a period where some others within those sects would curse in my mother contemplates that for us is unacceptable but for them they would not kiss my mother come question therefore when they went to to a period of secrecy what did that mean for them it meant that they became extremely private privates and even their membership when you look at the Hodja why is the Hodja very private on certain issues Georgia originally were Smiley's Georgia if you look at many of their things they are taken from the is my ideas number one mouki go to any Hodja JAMA at what you have a Mookie one of the most important positions in this my ID well is Mookie hahaha may for example ask somebody from the community to dedicate themselves on the other hand development and relief Foundation which does great work with hospitals and schools a lot of great work how many of you have seen an Al Hassan hospital in your country work which serves the community but he may ask him Mookie to help guide what the jama at Georgia Mookie Georgia Jamaat timing Allah Akbar if ever you want to see a similarity between a smile and it's now actually hold your timing yeah when you are asked to give a lecture for Anna smiley community may Allah bless them and they say to your lecture starts 7:40 finishes a 23 a 23 do people even give timings like that I thought we rounded off to the nearest decimal point 742 a 23 two minutes after that Q&A Jill Mytton cierra five minutes truth find mr. bottle and you see the similarities between the two and it's my ad Gerard's gotta because of that secrecy you cannot pray in there why because the jama at clan is a place you only can pray there if you've given baya if you've given bay a to the Imam you can come if me as a lecturer has given the most important lecture in the smile Jonathan maybe I'll be given a room separate but not the prayer that area is for those who have been given wounds who have been given or have given the day a question but what if they don't believe in Salah or Hajj or the card no they believe in Fela they believe in had they believed instacart but they say that we also believe in the internal Seiler internal hedge internal no zakat is actually it nor make sure you pay it but the other true you believe in as what esoterically their inner dimension therefore what is their father their father when it comes to those who follow the other hand is dry it sounds quite chilled if I say so myself Dom how many of you if you were told you have to read three to us a day sounds all right Dory's and what are these doors and by the way when I say these things I say them with respect okay just in case someone wants to email in and say do not teach our kids that they should read our things like that no with respect that's when it comes to dry what you find this they say you have to come to the mosque you pray three times a day you read - ah interestingly in these doors assiduity is involved so that's just their father for us the Salah of the Holy Prophet is the Salah that stays until today my holy prophet the way he prayed silo Kamara eight Romano finally pray like you saw me break whereas with them Dora three times you go towards that JAMA at Cana and you will do what you will read the Jos and you have to mention the 49 Imam some of us have just about memorized well I'm Ali Montezuma saying so now I'm in my bathroom outside at Macallan can you imagine adding another 37 to the Sierra wallah less time embargo wouldn't close for another three hours and with some people the way they recite Sierra maybe next week we could happen 49 Imam for the Hasan you follow beside all of their names for us that is not something to be agreed Salah is Sunnah pillar of the religion even if you say that the Imam says it should be done this way these things start changing these are absolute pillars of our religion for Hajj Hajj they say yeah how a person could go to the Kaaba but the Imam is like the camera so if you visit him you have done okay when it comes with a catch you'll find that 10% 12.5% has to be given towards them mom says I'm a custodian I'm the ones gonna make sure that being spent properly that's just something that they have within their teachings does that mean that's we ridicule but it's not certainly something we agree with for us what's ever a little weight and in particular Imam in birth or an imam sort of Sunnah watch aloha ceremony [Music] the laws that they've given us are the laws that we follow they taught us each of the laws about 10,000 15,000 hadith from ahlul bayt not just the ADIZ when you ask for the fifth question what is the kuffara for hunting one histogram and in bait precisely is it's a state of a harem for hajj or umrah wild animals or non wild animals did you know you didn't know in Mecca outside them didn't they break down the law for you doesn't come to a stage where all of a sudden we start changing the laws and start changing the pillars and these are a major area of difference the Buller however have a major love for the practice of a number of areas that is miley's can certainly incorporate within their youth because today you have many of these communities their youth are not attending the jamaat fans anymore when you look at us in Muharram our youth look towards the remembrance of a debate I look here and I look at the millions who follow online and you see how many youth follow them agile is how many youth around the world never get stuck in thinking that your zone is the only zone 99% out there are following and passionate and loving and so on it's not actually our youth the dedication came from the secret of Cara Bella Caribana brought us together that's the least religious person you'll see them in Muharram the most religious you'll see him in Mahara the one who hasn't been to the mosque will come in Muharram everybody welcome to an anime the Borah dude is the Borah from the 2nd of Muharram onwards there is a mention this for boxing now there is a remembrance for Bob Dylan and that's why a second area the bomber goes the era but the Hasani smiling saris are not there in the Sierra but I don't believe that it's a calamity I believe that's very soon many will start coming towards the era because the dumb person who believes in the holy prophets and the of Imam Ali and the sons of Imam Ali how many sea otters can you do you could go to Karbala Imam al-hussein you could go towards Negev Imam Ali you could go and visit these amantha resume benefits spiritually from them why do we go see Abba CRS for our soul to recharge when we're in a world which is miles away from the sacred I look at the body of an mohammad my soul is alive with all due respect to lester imam bargah or toronto jama at cana it's never the same as the energy of where foreseen and his companion stage the bora they make sure their families go on the article saying they made sure not just they go to upset build the shrine of ending beta if I'm gonna give 10% 12.5% no problem to do what who builds the mosque of Kufa except the border community who builds it you think it was the ethnic I should have you built was it naturally the bahara were the ones who built the mosque Oh poof away Imam Ali fell Institute the bora therefore make sure that their sons are both up on the love of elevate understanding renovate so then the jama at son is not just a place for a wedding it's a place for rejuvenation a place where a person can grow definitely there may be differences with the bora as well but these areas here are vital the Bora and muharram and the other sign is what's the difference the Bora will come to Majoris they'll come on the 10th of Muharram and not just come they'll shed tears and they'll beat their chests for that and their ladies will call out you my dad and ya for saying my dad all of them will call out with fervor I may differ with them about certain acts or certain theological beliefs but I cannot deny that if I praise a non-muslim when you show us not for Imam Hossein how can I not praise somebody within Islam when they show love wah bah yes if my idea I have found is however in these 10 nights while it is sad and there are certain things where a person is meant to show more sadness you will find however they wait for a particular letter or document or statement on the 10th of muharram from the other on the 10th of muharram the other hand will send a statement reminding everybody of the sacrifice of imam hussain while you still have a bit of light of imam al-hussein it can still help you in your dunya and your there are many who came closer to elevate with that light but part of the teachings of the Smiley's was that imam al-hussein saved Islam no doubt in which way in ensuring that people held on to the true religion but also that Zainab continued the call of Islam no doubt if you look at its my early teachings they say the Dawa continued from those who were there from katha Bela who was there of them Imam al bathra they mentioned one of the best books on imam al bathra online is - smiley by the name of our Xena lolani it's on Amazon a mammal barter she discusses his life mammal barter was three and a half years of age at Caribana and he is the one who saw and witness what took place on the 10th of Muharram he himself narrates he says if only you had seen what I saw on the tenth and he says it stayed with my father saying in a habit in for years he said I came to bury my father in mom saying I have it in one occasion look at the effect this has on saying Abidine he said when I came to bury my father the poison had surrounded his body and as I came to near him and I could see that he was in pain I hugged my father you'd hug your father when your father's dying may Allah never show you a moment where you have to bid farewell to your father he said I hugged my father when he was dying the moment I hugged him he began to cry like I've never seen I had hugged his chest and he was crying I said some father why did you cry in a moment you'll see her so long in a moment you'll see Hartman's aha in a moment you'll see a mom a mere mommy in a moment you'll see Muhammad Hassan in a moment you'll see you mom if I say why is it that when I hug you you begin to cry he looked at me and he said my son when I am dying you are on my chest Allah was a break of this one when I am dying you're on my chest do you know who sat on the chest on life that's one area Imam al bathra remained alive imam zain al-abideen remained alive as one after Karbala but sailing and saying have held that flag and on the 10th of Muharram that Zane and everything she had she gave to Allah everything when I say everything I mean every last drop she had she gave if a daughter was about to be hit she puts her back if one of the ladies was about to be struck she puts her face even when her brother was on the ground she tried to run out to protect her brother but she felt that the ultimate sacrifice would be that she gives her boys away Allah of the children that she had she had owned the darlings of the eyes of Zankou Leyla had given Akbar Ramallah had given assam my opinion had given four and now many Hashem when they had thought we have begun now with many Hashem tomorrow pass and then I passed and achma then also we're gonna go through Benny Hashem now but she saw all the mothers had given she came to ABBA I'm Jinnah she said here's our Lanois imam al-hussein had turned around - and he didn't say anything he continued on Omaha Madrid say there's a dimension to them you gold please make me proud I own and Mohammed from one side where the grandchildren of who they were from once I grandchildren of Jack Faro paya because their father was abdullah bin jeff on a player from now other they were the grandchildren of ali both of them went to ward room they went to imam al-hussein they said Oh uncle let us to defend you Allah he said to them you're the apples of my eye the tool I cannot let you die go back to your mother stay with your mother they were walking back as they were walking like their mother looked at them they looked at their mother said why haven't you gone what's wrong said our uncle says no you have to protect your mum she begun to walk to her sing arias and Allah she said do you remember when a bus came out of Sofia when he was young how proud was my father he looked at and he said very proud she said make me proud in the name of your mother Fatima that's the soft spot for him I want to meet my mother Fatima having given everything away which mother can give two moons night but I'm gonna say something to you when they both died she didn't cry I'm coming to me I want you to remember this and care about I shouldn't cry and cool and shower I'm gonna come to the shortly what do the narrations mention to us they mentioned that the both of them came and you know what they would do they turn around away to their uncle Abbas and they'd call out a bellyful are you proud of us you trained us and you know how hard it was for a belt well because you could not bear that someone such as his nephews and how dare you talk to say you know boys I say to heaven father if its virtue that they touch daenam boys I wish you saw what they did later today that Allah they both came out fighting valiantly when all would be struck Muhammad would jump in the way when Muhammad would be struck I would jump in the way a lot of inside cool doctors are me he said don't fight these two one on one they are the grandchildren of I leave surround them from every room I ask every mother listening to my voice how would you take seeing all the men striking you a to children I wonder what someone's a nabad when she saw them striking the boys when they both some of the ground they cool down to salam alayka ya imam hussain came running after them he fell by one of them he wanted to say his final words what do you think that boy said he said I borrowed allow are you proud of us he's such of yours my darling I am he said to him please tell our mother one thing what do they want to say what is it it tell our mother we never drunk any of the water from the floor how can we drink water and I see my mother's lived dry without what how can I drink water and that six-month-old baby has no water to touch them he took that bull's back towards the tears Zeynep remains dilma why we wondered all of us the ladies were wondering why when they went to Kufa say you never remain still listen to those cry when they were taken to shower stayin up remain still she was crying when they went back together Bela stayed up remains quiet she did not try until she returned back to Madrid why because any mother when she enters a room and she sees their children's baptism the moment she saw Mohammad she fell on the ground oh my - Don exactly I would have cried for both of us but I didn't want to break the hearts of and nanana when Ilayaraja raised your hands my dear brothers with the tear flowing from with that tear any Hydra you have advocate now with the tear the tears that were seen there to get closer to Allah subhana WA Ta'ala maybe uncle cried and cried for you sir but Yusuf was and I'm saying I'm sure them died raise your hands my dear my sisters yeah raised us with Mohammed Mohammed unite Nam on the love of mohammed al mohammed unites us from the love of god year and the incidents of that year and holding on to the love of amirul mumineen allow us to perform the z-ro of sailors in Havana and the Sierra of Shahada Caramella we pray to Allah and wa taala with a surah al-fatiha but before it allowed this to be all follow us Allah knows Aliannah

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