15 Screenwriting Lessons People Learn TOO LATE

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I was ready to hate on this video based on the title. But actually there's a lot of great stuff here.

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Here's a link to the Waiting Room Essay mentioned in the first segment

Great post, OP!

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1. Work on new projects Dr. Ken Atchity, Author/Producer: it was disconcerting to be validated for something that I believed 22 years ago and that I got a lot of other people to believe 22 years ago. Including Doubleday to the tune of 2 million dollars and Disney to the tune of a million and New Line to the tune of a million plus and so on. And then it didnā€™t happen and then suddenly all these years later it happened and people go ā€œYou must feel good to be corroborated?ā€ And I said ā€œYes I do.ā€ But the truth is it taught me the most important lesson of all which is what I wrote into an essay called The Waiting Room [from Kenā€™s blog]. If I had been waiting for THE MEG to happen or for any movie that I started 20 years ago to happen, Iā€™d probably be miserable (if not suicidal). But what you do in the waiting room is you do something else, thatā€™s how you manager your time. When youā€™re waiting for something, that can be annoying and a burden and what you have to do is other things. So what I did was 50 other things and as a result 30 movies have happened and hundreds of books and a new publishing company and lots of other things. Yes itā€™s satisfying to see that the world endorses what Steve Alten [Author of Meg: A Novel of Deep Terror] and I believed in 22 years ago that this was a hugely popular subject for a story. And all the way along brave people especially Belle Avery who brought it home and Lorenzo di Bonaventura and other producers, they made it happen too. But I guess what it shows among other things is donā€™t waste time hoping for something to happen. Do your work and then put it out in the world and let the world take care of it, thatā€™s one thing. And then part of it is to trust the work that happened. When you create this baby (THE MEG in this case), if itā€™s a good baby it will survive and it will show its muscles when the time comes. Maybe itā€™s been in hiding for all these years but suddenly it comes out and everybody knows it. Thatā€™s great but what it tells the artist I think is to focus on whatā€™s at hand, whatā€™s in your workshop right now and do it well and then donā€™t worry about things you canā€™t control. Focus on what you can control. And I guess thatā€™s my main feeling about it is that we did a lot of work on THE MEG at the beginning, we created its shape and it finally came out and it did great and am I surprised? No, Iā€™m pleased but not surprised because I always believed it but Iā€™m so glad I didnā€™t hang my own personal psychology on it because if Iā€™d done that Iā€™d have been locked up by now. Like myself, Steve went on to write eight more books on different subjects too. And built another career around his talent and heā€™ll continue doing that. Heā€™s learned that lesson too that. Was it disappointing that it didnā€™t come out back then? Well it felt like it at the time but in retrospect, things are meant to be. And I always say to writers that I manage that every project has its own clock and the only problem is you canā€™t see the clock. So what you do is you put in the work the best you can and then you screw the screws on the cover and send it out into the world and wish it well and turn to your next project which hopefully youā€™ve done before you finish this one project and thatā€™s what the creator does. He keeps working on new projects. So this world didnā€™t turn out perfectly. God creates another world, maybe it is better? 2. What No One Else Can Create? Marc and Elaine Zicree, Screenwriters: And so what he was doing was creating something that no one else could create. And he told me that he wrote every day for 10 years before he wrote a single line, a single word that was uniquely his. And then one day he sat down and he wrote the words THE LAKE and he wrote a short story based on the time when he was a little boy. When he was eight years old he and a little girl friend who was seven went swimming in Lake Michigan and he came out and she never did (she drowned). And it was a story of her coming back as a ghost and they told me that when he finished the story, tears were streaming down his face and he knew that heā€™d written something that no one else could have written and it came specifically from his experience and his soul. And it took another two years of writing everyday before he could write something again that was uniquely his. And then he got to where he could do it again and again and again and he became Ray Bradbury because he was determined to do that. I thought that was a great lesson to say ā€˜Okay, what are you creating? What can you create that isnā€™t something of what others are doing, but that is unique to you, that no one else could have created, that you create something fresh in the world thatā€™s truthful and meaningful and then you know youā€™ve done something worth doing. So thatā€™s been a great inspiration to me. 3. Six Scripts Corey Mandell, Screenwriter/Instructor: I love my agent. I think heā€™s the best agent in the world. Iā€™m repped at WME. There is another agent at WME who I think is the second best agent in the world. Her name is Adriana Alberghetti. And she said something once they I think is so important for writers to hear. She said that some writers get it and some writers donā€™t get it. And the writers who get it are all working and the writers who donā€™t get it (most of them) arenā€™t working. And so as an agent she just wants to work with writers who get it and this is what it is. A lot of writers think that to write a script that changed your life to write a script that gets you your first job or to get Ridley Scott to hire you or to get a show whatever it is youā€™re aspiring to, you have a career you are trying to take to the next level, they think itā€™s about having the right script at the right time at the right place. Thatā€™s not it and thatā€™s a mistake. That surrenders all control and power to the Universe. The reality is your job is to think in six script cycles and you have to be writing the right kinds of scripts, pitch perfect authentic (we talked about that earlier) and assuming you trained yourself to be able to do that. You need to write six of those every two years and the reason is you write six of these pitch perfect authentic scripts one of them is going to go out to the marketplace and just fizzle and you will never know why and then two or three of them will go out and they will start to get some traction but then something will happen and derail it. And then there will be one or two that is absolutely going to happen, you have the director attached, you have the stars, thereā€™s a bidding war, there is no way itā€™s not going to happen and something at the very last second is going to derail it and one of the six will actually go the distance and sell or it will be that script that gets you the next three or four years of getting staffed on shows. There will be one of those 6 scripts that will just catch lightning in a bottle, one of those 6. One of those 6 (you donā€™t know which one it will be). So if you are not working right now you ought to be writing 3 or 4 of these scripts a year because you are thinking in 6-script cycles. So any one script goes out and it does do what it needs to you do have to feel like a victim. Itā€™s one of 6. This is the key to working, you have two jobs now. Your day job and your weekend night job. So if your day job is a feature assignment writer for Ridley Scott or if your day job is you just got staffed on JANE THE VIRGIN (one of my students just got staffed. Sheā€™s very excited). You have to do everything. You have to excel at that job. But then on nights and weekends you have to be writing pitch perfect authentic scripts. And if you are not writing 3 or 4 a year, then maybe you are writing 2 a year. But you donā€™t stop writing these scripts. Because one of these scripts is going to be the thing that takes your career to the next level. And so the writers that donā€™t get it is Iā€™m working, Iā€™m making money, Iā€™ve made it. Plus Iā€™m busy, I have a family, Iā€™m writing and there is no other time and I get that. But the reality is the writers that get it even though they are working they are still always creating this new material and they think about it in these 6-script cycles. And so a lot of times agents drop the writers who arenā€™t doing that. And I get it because when I was a working studio writer I wasnā€™t continuing to write these scripts. I was just doing my studio assignment work and I was making good money, I was just too busy and I didnā€™t want to do that. My agent kept telling me to do this. I didnā€™t. And he said at some point your writing career is going to end badly and I worked non-stop for 11 years. But I was a working writer but I never became an A-list writer. And the only way I could have become an A-list writer is to keep writing script. So there was another writer Erik Singer who wrote a script and started to get all of these studio assignments and making a lot of money but he kept writing on his own time pitch-perfect authentic scripts year-after-year-after-year. And eventually one of them hit. It was AMERICAN HUSTLE and so he is now suddenly a huge writer. I know the guys who wrote THE NICK (same thing), they are staff writers and they are making really good money. They were writing stuff that they really believed in, THE NICK was one of them and that script just took them to a whole other level. Alan Ball with AMERICAN BEAUTY and you can just go on and on and on. Often agents drop writers who might be really great writers but they donā€™t get it. They donā€™t keep creating this new absoluteā€¦so itā€™s either they donā€™t keep creating material or they are not creating the right kind of material (itā€™s not good enough). I have a lot of friends who are agents and if you keep creating the right kind of content even when youā€™re working and the content is amazing and you play well with others, itā€™s very unlikely that they are going to drop you because thatā€™s exactly the kind of person they want to represent. And in that case if they drop you, it could be a conflict with their client base. It could be a lot of things that have nothing to do with you. But if you are not doing all of those things and an agent drops you have to look in the mirror. 4. Script Comparison Carole Kirschner, Author/Consultant: I can go back to Sean Ryan again (the one who was so promising) and he got a job on a sitcom as soon as he came to Los Angeles and then he didnā€™t work for 6 years. And what he did is he wrote and I think that he wrote about 14 spec scripts. And what happened is his scripts were all good but nothing was getting him traction. And he asked his manager, he said to his manager send me an example of a script that is getting somebody work and his manager sent over the script that had the most buzz at the time and Sean compared it page to page and said heā€™d have three things on a page that were really good. But this one (the one that got the buzz) every single beat was perfect. And when he realized that he had not been hitting the mark, he started to write and hit the mark. And in not too long of a time he got hired on a show and that show led to another show and he developed THE SHIELD. So you just have to keep working. 5. Nothing in Return Danny Strong, Screenwriter/Producer/Actor: I wouldnā€™t really call it early success. I donā€™t even view it that way. I view it as 6 years of no one wanting my stuff. It was some random person who was very kind who was interested in a script. But it wasnā€™t as if all of the sudden I made it and itā€™s happening now. So it really was a 6-7 year journey to selling my project which was RECOUNT. And why didnā€™t give up is because I had something to say and I loved writing these scripts and they were important to me and I was working on stories and it just was artistically extremely fulfilling where my acting career was very frustrating and I worked. I worked on some really terrific shows that Iā€™m really proud of but I wasnā€™t actually getting to act very much. So even when youā€™re working I would do episodes of GILMORE GIRLS and I would do 4 episodes a season and I would work on it a day or two and that would be one of my only jobs for 6 months. So itā€™s really about 7 days on set over a 6-month period so what am I doing the rest of the time? Iā€™m auditioning and trying to get new jobs but thatā€™s an hour a day maybe? So really it was a creative outlet for me of taking my creative energy and putting it into something where I can actually just go do it. Whereas as an actor, you have to be picked to go do it and then you rarely get picked. So I just found it fulfilling and I also was getting rejected left and right, script after script, agents, managers, production companies, everyone didnā€™t want my work for 6-7 years. And I think I got to a point where I asked myself ā€œThis is not going well. What do you want from this? What are you doing?ā€ And I asked myself Would Iā€¦and itā€™s one of the key questions in the movieā€¦would I do this for the rest of my life if I got nothing in return? And I thought yes I would. And then I just kept writing and it wasnā€™t as if 6 months laterā€¦crack the champagne! It was maybe three years later and I sold RECOUNT as a pitch to HBO and just kind of went on from there. But there was a certain peace in knowing that it wasnā€™t about selling something or success (even though I really wanted it). It was a kumbuya moment, but there was a peace in knowing that whatever happens you just keep writing. So just keep writing and thatā€™s what I did. 6. Story or Character? Peter Desberg, Author/Psychologist: When Jeffrey [Davis] and I were starting we took a slightly academic view one day and said whatā€™s your prediction about the approach they are going to take? Are they going to go more for story? Or are they going to go more for character? And we found out the answer is neither. They went for conflict. So if you were going to give us a premise to develop, the very first step we would take is Okay whatever the premise is where do we get conflict out of it? If there are two characters involved, how can we make them but heads? So if you were to give us a premise to develop, the very first step we would take is okay wherever the premise is, where do we get conflict out of it? If there are two characters involved how can we make them but heads to do something because everything would come out of that. 7. The Name of the Game Gary Goldstein, Producer: Writers (as one example), I get query letters every day, blind query letters. ā€œDear So and Soā€¦ā€ It could be my name, it could be ā€˜creative executive,ā€™ it could be my name misspelled, it could be anything. ā€œDear So and Soā€¦ā€ Log line, short description, ā€œCan I send a script? Iā€™ll sign a release.ā€ Signedā€¦John. Thatā€™s what I get repeatedly all day long in my inbox. There is not one lick of research. There is not one lick of anything personal, like why is this the writer (the only writer) who could have written this story? Why was it so compelling that they chose this out of all the stories in oneā€™s imagination? Why did they choose to send it to me? Now I donā€™t want to receive the agony and the ecstasy as a letter but somethingā€¦a drop, a kernel, something that stands out and makes me think. Makes me react. Makes me wonder about this. But they donā€™t. I can promise you not even 1% do what Iā€™m describing. So this is what writers learn from other writers and the actors learning from other actors, etc. They learn the habitual tried-and-true, day-to-day protocol which is usually very unsuccessful. The ROI (the return-on-investment) in sending blind query blind query letters has got to be horribly frustrating? If youā€™re a business, youā€™d be bankrupt. So why do it? Because this is what other people are doing. You need to associate with more successful people and you need to think about it differently. If you were a fashion designer and you took that approach, you focus on your craft, focus on your craft, focus on your craft and you sent out letters saying ā€œHereā€™s my designs. Arenā€™t I great!ā€ Youā€™d never have a brand. You have to think in terms of business. You have to think in terms of ā€˜What more can I do that others arenā€™t doing?ā€™ As opposed to ā€˜What they are doing. How do I stand out?ā€™ Separating yourself out from the herd is definitely the name of the game and anyone who has invested that blood, sweat and tears, that sort of soul equity of investing all of that time writing 120 or 110 pages (whatever) of story and rewriting it until it is just so. But they want to share their wares with the world. Now theyā€™re so proud of this. They should invest a like amount of time figuring out how to market and how to be a business person and how to reach out to people and how to do things differently than all of their peers. Like thatā€™s a great measurement. Am I doing what everyone else is doing or am I being somehow, putting myself out into the world and speaking of myself to the right people in ways that matter? 8. The Great Weakness John Truby, Author/Screenwriter/Instructor: A common notion (particularly about action heroes), notion was always in the past that when you have an action hero or especially a super hero that you want a character who begins as a good person (an upstanding moral paragon) and remains that way throughout the entire story. But about 10 years ago Hollywood discovered that thatā€™s not the best way to tell the super hero story. Thatā€™s one of those examples of conventional wisdom thatā€™s not so. What we care about is to see a character overcome a deep weakness. Now the audience thinks the story is all about the hero achieving his goal because then weā€™ve got success and thatā€™s important and in most stories the hero will accomplish his goal by the end of the story. That is not what the audience is most interested in. They canā€™t tell you this but we know from lots of experience (hundreds of years of storytelling that the real fact is not does the hero accomplish the goal but does the hero overcome the great weakness because thatā€™s what makes us care about that character. We see them in pain. We see them in trouble, right? If they are already successful if they are already good (and in some cases) a perfect person, where do they go? There is nothing for them to overcome. So thatā€™s why itā€™s so important to show in the very opening pages of our script the internal weakness of our character. Now we may also want to give them qualities that are likable qualities that the audience can also hook onto. Those are not nearly as important as establish the weakness up front in the story. 9. Iā€™ll Take A Look At It Jen Grisanti, Author/Consultant: Iā€™ll never forget when I was a studio executive. There was a certain circumstance where this happened where we had the network, the studio, the show runner and the writer on the phone. And the writer was so defensive to the network notes. And it was my job to go to the writer and say you need to really hear the note, understand the note, and then you pat best response that isnā€™t going to put someone on the defense and isolate someone is ā€œI will take a look at it.ā€ That helps toā€¦first of all itā€™s positive on the writer. Itā€™s saying that they are open (itā€™s not saying that they agree with the note) but itā€™s saying that they are open to take a look at it and thatā€™s all people want to know. What I think the biggest thing writers have to think about when it comes to receiving notes on their script is that even if they donā€™t agree with the note at face value, they have to understand there might be a note under the note. And the note that they need to make to themselves is something isnā€™t working and I have to figure out how to make it work because if this person who know story is not getting it, there is something going on in my process that isnā€™t working and just be open to that. I mean the gift with writing is and what I always say to writers is that you have to recognize first of all what is the blank page is the only thing between them and a writing career. And how they fill that page is what makes the difference. So they can rewrite anything, thatā€™s why I say to writers I cannot tell you (it was my job) how many show runners I had to talk off the ledge after they heard notes and after they heard notes. After they heard notes from the studio or the owner of the company, I had to be the peacemaker and I had to really help them to see at first okay I think the writers mind may go ā€œOh my gosh. This is a total page 1 rewrite.ā€ Very often it is not. All it is is really thinking about the note, understanding the note, and then if they are open to it what Iā€™ve seen (the best writer for me) knows how to make the note go beyond the note. And that takes openness. That takes advanced ability to really know ā€˜Alright Iā€™m going to make that note there therefore thatā€™s going to effect a later moment so Iā€™m going to change that later moment so that it links with what I just changed and they know how to do that. I think the biggest wall note is saying ā€œYouā€™re wrong. I donā€™t agree.ā€ I think that shows lack of openness and accessibility and desire to make the story better. Or writers will say I donā€™t get it and then the executive or the story consultant will go through it again. And to the person giving the note there is definitely a tremendous amount of responsibility. I am definitely a believer that if you are going to give a note. And this is where I think to the person giving the note there is also tremendous responsibility. If you are going to give a note, give an example. Show them what you mean. So that they understand the note. There are many consultants who will say ā€œI donā€™t think thatā€™s my job. Iā€™m not the writer. They are the writer.ā€ I am a believer. I come from the studio executive perspective where clarity is key in the outcome of the story. So if you going to give a note and give an example of why itā€™s not working or what you mean by it then you are going to have a stronger chance of getting the outcome that you want. Elaine Zicree, Screenwriter: Itā€™s a funny thing but the thing that most affected me was a very good script doctor that I had and it was a script that Iā€™d written. It was one of my most favorite scripts Iā€™d ever written and it was one of my favorite script ultimately. But she said ā€œThis is brilliant. I absolutely love it. Now hereā€™s the notes!ā€ But the fact that she said that I was brilliant and that she loved it I thought ā€œWell what the heck? Whatā€™s with a few notes? Iā€™m brilliant.ā€ So I think crazy flattery is sort of a way of allowing somebody to feel special. With crazy flattery all those notes seemed like nothing. You know one of the biggest pieces of advice was ā€œHey, what you are doing has super value. Now here is the work.ā€ And just going on that thing where I was allowed to have super value at the top of the journey really got me through as thought it was nothing of those notes. 10. How To Build Empathy Karl Iglesias, Author/Screenwriter/Instructor: For character (and I talk about this in my Pixar seminar) because they are masters of this. They tell stories about toys, about monsters, about bugs, about robots, a fish, a rat. They make you care and connect with those characters. So there are a whole bunch of techniques and you can see what they do and what the techniques are. For me itā€™s like there are three things that you do is that you make us feel sorry for that character, there are little moments where you can create a moment in the story where a character is unjustly abused or unjustly mistreated or insulted or betrayed or neglected. And so it can be any character and if that moment is there you are going to feel sorry for that character (at that moment). It takes an instant. So thatā€™s one. If you show that they are like us. If you show their humanity for example. If you show that they care about something other than themselves, thatā€™s another technique. So thereā€™s a moment in the movie LEON THE PROFESSIONAL which is about the bad guy right and it opens with him doing something bad and he hurts someone. You donā€™t know if heā€™s good or bad. But he goes home and he takes care of a plant and right away you say ā€œOh? He cares about a plant. So heā€™s okay. Heā€™s human.ā€ The other part is admiration. So if you are dating somebody or if you are trying to find somebody who is a good match for you, that list of things that you like in a person thatā€™s an admirable trait. So if someone is funny, who is responsible, who is courageous, a whole list of things you can add to a character to say ā€œI admire this.ā€ Usually they are like the best at what they do. The best ad executive or best agent or the best copā€¦courageousā€¦I have a whole bunch of them. The list is all in the book. There are all these lists of what you can do. So if you do all of these things, if you show clips of the moment you meet the character (itā€™s usually like a three minute scene) you can see all of these things being applied in like 3 minutes. The opening of WALLE after heā€™s done with the garbage and he comes to his little house, itā€™s a 3-minute scene and thereā€™s about 20 of these techniques done. This is how you connect with that character in that one scene emotionally. I also show a clip of an ad (itā€™s a commercial) about a lamp. Itā€™s a one minute thing. Itā€™s a great ad for Ikea (award-winning commercial) where they make you care about the lamp. And the joke about it is a guy comes out and says ā€œYou probably had feeling for this lamp because youā€™re crazy. The lamp is only a lamp. And the new one is better.ā€ The new one to replace it. But itā€™s amazing once you know those techniques and then you see them in action and you go ā€œOh my gosh?ā€ I kind of always feel (I always give this caveat with my students and to everybody who hears me speak) that if you love stories (if you love film) and you donā€™t want me to destroy the illusion do not listen to me because I feel like Iā€™m one of the magicians who gives you the trick of how itā€™s done and then you see the trick and itā€™s not the same anymore. So I always feel bad about that because once you know the techniques and you see a film youā€™re are going to see them everywhere. Itā€™s going to kind of ruin it for you so just fair warning right there that this is how we do it and it creates that effect. 11. A Participatory Experience Michael Hauge, Author/Consultant: Itā€™s not an audienceā€™s or a readerā€™s job to feel something you have to elicit. So that means you havenā€™t created sufficient conflict or emotion in your story to elicit or you havenā€™t created a premise (a concept of a story) or you have it structured in such a way that the conflict makes any sense or can be emotionally involving because youā€™ve given them nothing to route for or you havenā€™t created empathy with the hero or whatever it might be. But itā€™s your job to elicit emotion and emotion has to come naturally from the reader and audience because of what youā€™ve done. They have to be participating in the story that you created. Thatā€™s why for example empathy is so important for you to create for your hero because a story is a participatory experience for the audience and the listener and the reader. We become that character. We want to experience the same emotion as they do. We donā€™t go to the movies because itā€™s interesting to watch people do things. Itā€™s emotional for us to get to do them. We become Jason Bourne. We become Rose as she falls in love with Jack and sheā€™s on the Titanic. We become the astronaut who is out in space in GRAVITY. We are a part of it. We are participating in the action, in the events of that story. But we have no basis, no way to get into the story if on a subconscious level become the hero of that story and thatā€™s what the empathy and identification you create at the beginning is going to do. So if youā€™ve created a story with an empathetic hero so we participate, giving them a clear goal, and created enough logical and believable obstacles to overcome then the emotion will grow organically out of your audience because they are in it and youā€™ve created the conflict that will do that. To me all roads lead to the outer motivation and so if all you are doing is stringing together obstacles to overcome and there is a very similar mistake and that is people who think comedy is one funny thing after another happening. Thatā€™s not what a story is. Story is a sequence of events experienced by a hero who is pursuing a very specific goal. So if you are just throwing one obstacle after another but we donā€™t care the hero or the hero or itā€™s not clear why the hero is doing this or what they are trying to achieve or if those obstacles are illogical or if the pace of the story lags, every thing is at a very high level of emotion and creating sort of peaks and valleys at an emotional level so you have big moments and quiet moments and moments of connection and moments of separation and so on. There are all those things that you do in addition to throwing a bunch of things atā€¦you know car chases and fight scenes up on the screen. Which many people have tried and those movies donā€™t succeed. If itā€™s just car chases and fight scenes itā€™s just a series of videos really. But itā€™s not a story or a movie where people are going to be involved in. It has to alternate. Itā€™s not a resting point as if you stay there forever but itā€™s like in a comedy you donā€™t want jokeā€¦jokeā€¦jokeā€¦joke. Thereā€™s got to be a serious moment or two and look at any great comedy (look at any decent comedy) and thereā€™s going to be something very funny and then thereā€™s going to be something touching or sad or romantic or there is going to be a deeper connection between the characters or there is going to be something more exciting or there is going to be something softer. You want to vary the peaks and valleys, the emotional level and pitch of the story as we go steadily toward the finish line that the hero is trying to reach. So the obstacle is getting bigger, they need to come closer together so the pace will accelerate but if thereā€™s only obstacles (one right after the other) with no chance to catch your breath, no chance to participate what might be coming, no chance to explain whatā€™s going on and no chance to get closer and deeper into the character, itā€™s going to be a very, very shallow story with very limited emotional involvement or appeal. 12. Writerā€™s Mindset Erik Oleson, Writer of MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE and ARROW: My process evolves every time I do another job I realize how much I didnā€™t know in my prior job. So Iā€™m somebody who reads pretty much reads every trick, every screenwriting book, every script that I can get my hands on and Iā€™m constantly trying to evolve as a craftsman. Iā€™m also fortunate enough in this job to surround myself with really talented people and you learn a lot from other writers. Like there are writers on MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE who have won Emmyā€™sā€¦like Martin Scorsese best friend is another one. You want to really kind of learn from the people around you and that just makes you better. So I canā€™t say that I have any set process. Although right now as Iā€™m developing something I have to say that Iā€™m a big fan of the John Truby stuff. I think he kind of hits the sweet spot for me. But Iā€™ve taken them all, Iā€™ve taken McKee, Iā€™m one of these guys who likes to read new stuff about the craft and I figure if I can learn something from any book, if I get one thing out of it and it makes me a better writer, Iā€™m all for it. Christine Conradt, Screenwriter: Just being able to recognize your deficiencies and for me when I read a great script and I go ā€œOh my gosh this is a great script.ā€ I get really excited and go ā€œWhat are they doing that Iā€™m not doing. What can I learn from what this writer did?ā€ And so I think just constantly learning and constantly reading and constantly researching and having that in the back of your mind all the time that you want to get better, you will just gravitate towards things that make you better. Instead of finding that comfortable place where you know you are good at writing this so I can write this over and over, itā€™s forcing yourself to stretch. Because I think once you do that itā€™s a great feeling that youā€™ve written something good and youā€™ve done something youā€™ve never done before, then you have something you can feel really proud of. You can learn from everyone and thatā€™s the thing, there are so many people whoā€¦I think people just want to feel validated so badly where they get to a place where they say ā€œIā€™m an expert and everyone should just be listening to what I have to say about this.ā€ And itā€™s kind of crazy because yes you may have put your 10,000 hours in, you may be good at what you do, but you can learn something from everything that you read, even learning what not to do. Even in really bad scripts you will find these little moments where youā€™re like ā€œOh my gosh, that was really well-conveyed.ā€ So just being open to those things and learning from other people because people are constantly adding to this body of work that exists in the world and there is so much for you to be able to read out there. Just be open to what other people are doing. But then again you have to love reading. So many writers donā€™t love reading. So read, read, read, read. A lot of people want to start writing without having read a script. I just donā€™t understand it. Erik Bork, Author/Screenwriter: Probably the most important perspective has been to see it as something Iā€™m always learning and Iā€™m always growing and that thatā€™s okay. Itā€™s not like Iā€™m supposed to know it all or be perfect at it and the things that I write are just going to be great automatically and others are going to love them. To see it as itā€™s an ongoing quest of kind of a self-development, self-education, Iā€™m learning with everything that I write, what works better and not as good so itā€™s like this journey of development that you are going to sort of enjoy the journey as opposed to I have to get to a certain place which it is easy to feel that way because the world works that way where I have to get the agent, I have to get the sale, I have to get something produced, I have to get the money to make my movie. There are these goals who might have in the world that are a lot of times out of our control and if you focus only on those goals like what I can get, what I can achieve instead of what can I express? How can I just do what Iā€™ve decided I want to do which is be a writer and be learning and growing and find some satisfaction in that journey. Because when you turn it into there have to be these quantifiable in terms of money or otherā€™s reactions or whatever, then you are putting all your power in this thing that may or may not ever happen, that you canā€™t for sure make happen no matter what you do. So I think it seems counterproductive because to be successful (be a professional) you want to focus on the professional goals. Well you do to some extent and you are open to feedback and you are listening and educating yourself. I didnā€™t say just go in a hole and do what you want to do and shut the outside world out. Iā€™m saying engage with the world, with feedback, with education, with trying to understand and get better so itā€™s growth but making it a positive growth for your self that is about making me better and making my writing better not making my results better. Because when you focus on how do I give more. How do I write something that is really going to impact people? How do I do that? How do I figure out how to do that? How do I get better at it? You are then about giving to other people and you will achieve success I believe more when you succeed at giving more, you will get more automatically as opposed to how do I get the success? How do I get the breaks? How do I get the right person to read it? How do I get people to like it? Itā€™s more how do I create something so wonderful that people will just automatically like it and Iā€™m not even concerning myself with that. Itā€™s about taking the power into your own hands and being about how you can improve your stuff and your self as a writer. Having that approach I think is a stronger, healthier approach that is going to lead to more success more then if you do it the other way. 13. Not Good Enough Eric Edson, CSUN Screenwriting Professor: The number one reason why you are not making it is the material is not yet good enough because especially if you are not reading the stuff that is out there you have no way of knowing how good good has to be in order to get noticed. Coming in you have to be better than most of the people who are now making a living at it in order to get noticed. But the contests offerā€¦re-objectificationā€¦the contests offer the concrete way to do that. Work on it, work on it, until youā€™ve got something youā€™re ready to test. But now pick your contests carefully. The first time you try it out pick smaller contests (more fringy). I mean do your research. They should be decent, upstanding contests and so forth. Try it outā€¦try it out. Did you make the quarter finals or were you swept away in the first pass. Okay if that happens, you have learned something, itā€™s not ready. And you keep working on it. And finally when you get to the mid-level ranks and your script gets to the quarter finals okay. It did not make the top ten or the top 15. Fineā€¦youā€™ve learned something more. Go back, take a vacation from it for a couple of weeks, try not to think about it, then reread it again, make more notes and go back to work on it. And itā€™s a way that a lot of neophyte screenwriters (new screenwriters) donā€™t do or donā€™t pursue which is youā€™ve got to be as a writer, as a craftsperson you must be relentless in your goal of creating quality material. For instance (Iā€™ll give you a for instance). Iā€™m working with a young lady right now who was one of our grad students a few years ago (2-3 years ago). Sheā€™s been my class assistant and stuff like that so we knew each other pretty well. She took her thesis screenplay from (I donā€™t know) three years ago and I read it and told her ā€œYouā€™ve got a great idea hereā€¦you really do. I believe in this idea.ā€ And we had conversations such as there is no such thing as a bad screenplay, only an unfinished one. And I gave her some pointers and scribbled things on the pages and she went back and wrote it again (this is a feature film). And I looked it and was ā€œYou know what? This is better.ā€ And I went through and the sample editing and the scribble, scribble kind of stuff. And she looks at it and itā€™s a little bit better. Sheā€™s been through that process (well in this case with me) it must be 6 times now. I mean years have passed. She had a draft of this when she went up for her thesis 3 years ago right? But Iā€™ll tell you and Iā€™m reading it once again. Iā€™ll probably be looking at it again this weekend, she is so close. I kept telling her keep track ofā€¦donā€™t lose your draft of your first draft, donā€™t lose a copy of your first draft because a day is coming when I would like to have that in my hand and your final draft and put that together in a binder and use this in class and have people read the first draft and now read the last draft. It could be a wonderful, wonderful exploration of teaching writing because this has become viable. She is now close to having an entirely shootable, casting, really good social commentary screenplay. Film Courage: What changed in those 6 drafts over the 3 years or however many? Professor Edson: Craft. Craft. Her mastery ofā€¦what most of them do is they write what they mean and when it comes to dialogue, please just blurt it out and itā€™s called on-the-nose-dialogue. Thatā€™s one of the things you teachā€¦stop it! People do not talk like that, people talk around what they mean not that there canā€™t be confrontation and stuff like that under certain emotional circumstances but it was dialogue and less is more in terms of the amount of dialogue. It was description, it was about the use of language and vocabulary and description using irrelevant words - the, and, thereā€¦thereā€™s a whole list of the 9 most utterly useless words. Iā€™ve got it back there in a sheet I pass out sometimes. All that is is filler. All that does is slow the reader down. It is developing a style in a way you describe and offer exposition and description in scene, scene heading, slug lines and then what weā€™re looking at in stuff like that. Drawing people in, where you put things, building the plot in an ever better way (you can do more here) that is what has been going on for all those years. 14. Value Of An Idea Richard Walter, UCLA Screenwriting Chairman: The most overrated part of the screenplay equation is the idea. Ideas are usually pretty useless and worthless. Forgive me if Iā€™m repeating myself I am one of those people who believes that BREAKING BAD is one of the greatest achievements in the history of civilization. I think it is really great drama. So what is the idea that drives it? A high school chemistry teacher gets a cancer diagnosis so he decides to go into dealing with an incorrigible former student of his (a criminal) to support his family. Itā€™s the stupidest idea Iā€™ve ever heard. Many, many companies shot that down. And yet it is this triumphant achievement. 62 hours of TV series, every frame of which is engaging and captivating and involving. So how did that happen? And the answer is they told a good story. Itā€™s where the story, itā€™s really all about story and at UCLA thatā€™s what I believe. Imagine if someone came up to you and said ā€œHey I have an idea for a movie. This guys stutters but he has to give a speech. They hire a speech therapist. They work on this speech and he gives this speech at the end of the movie.ā€ If somebody told you that thatā€™s going to win the Oscar for best picture and best screenplay, youā€™d tell them they are crazy. And yet that is of course THE KINGā€™S SPEECH. And again I think it just demonstrates the value of story and the valuelessness of ideas. And I think that very young people are more into ideas, they have great ideas. I like to say if you have a great idea, a really, really great idea for a screenplay, thatā€™s all youā€™ve got. I mean what remains after that? Everything. The characters have to be invented, the dialogue they speak has to be created. It has to be punchy and peppy and provocative and pungent (Iā€™m just getting into Pā€™s now) and poetic and it has to be worth listening to all for itself just because there is something kind of charming about it. But beyond that it canā€™t just be all for itself. It also has to advance the story in a palpable, measurable, identifiable way. Likewise expand the audiences appreciation of the characters. It takes time for me to give you an idea about a movie it takes about a handful of seconds to walk you through the story which takes the length of the movie (a couple of hours). So thatā€™s where the value is. 15. Story Structure Myth Larry Wilson, Screenwriter: There is a huge business (maybe an overly-huge business) in teaching screenplay structure. A 3-act structure, a 5-act structure. And I know a fair share of screenwriting gurus who are at each others throats of which structure is the structure and Iā€™m not saying there is not a structure. I would be in big trouble if I said there wasnā€™t a structure and that a story doesnā€™t have a beginning, a middle and an end. But this reliance, this absolute need to follow any structure map thatā€™s out there and if you donā€™t have a turning point on page 30 you havenā€™t done it right. Or if youā€™re on step 5 of 22 steps, youā€™re on the wrong step, you havenā€™t done it right or any of this stuff itā€™s not true. This structure business, itā€™s a business and you need a diagram to teach structure and you sell a diagram and itā€™s very hard to say I have the best diagram unless you have a diagram. I mean you need a diagram to sell a diagram. I told you earlier about my diagram that ends on page 60 with someone dangling down. Itā€™s an emotional diagram. It goes like thisā€¦Page 1 Iā€™m going to do this, this is going to be the best story ever, Page 10 Oh my gosh I can really do this. Everyone was wrong about me. My parents can go F themselves! Iā€™m a writer. On and on emotional and like Page 20 you go this is really getting hard, the graph starts going down and down and then you get to Page 60 and itā€™s like Iā€™ll never finish this. Itā€™s my struggle. Itā€™s an emotional structure. Itā€™s an emotional diagram. Film Courage: Waitā€¦sorry to interrupt but what happens after the hanging diagram? Larry: Oh well you go into despair for awhile. You put yourself to bed and then you wake up and start again and it has a happy ending. And at the ending it has a happy ending, big bags of money, all the love and companionship you ever wanted, power, you win right? But itā€™s obviously tongue-in-cheek and to make a point. But the real point of it is have characters who you believe in and you believe that you can write them and they are in some sense writing you, that they are coming out of a place of truth for you. Put them in the tightest, most impossible situation you can imagine and get them out of it. And know that you have probably (if you are writing a screenplay) in a 100 to 120 minutes. And let the story flow and there will be natural points within you doing that where you will feel needs to go faster, needs to go slower, that there needs to be more drama, there needs to be a moment of rest, all these things that structure teaches you and again Iā€™m not saying there isnā€™t a structure. But those structure diagrams they can assist you or they can be a cage. They can be an absolute cage and they can trap you and if you believe that youā€™re a writer, you have a natural storytelling gift that you need to honor, that you need to respect or donā€™t be a writer. Donā€™t think that you can tell a story if you donā€™t have a natural storytelling gift and you canā€™t tell when things are going too slowly or things are going to fast and just let if flow and then go back and see if itā€™s structured right. But this is another thing that will stop people in their tracts over and over again if your first act is too long. Who cares? Who cares? Youā€™ll figure that out if writing is rewriting. And watch a lot of movies, read a lot of books, Iā€™m now because of constraints of time sometimes Iā€™m a podcast junkie. I hear the most brilliant stories in podcasts, stories that have natural, beginning, middle and an end because they are true. Just embrace all of that, embrace the movies that you love, take them to your heart. And if youā€™re a storyteller, the story will emerge and it will emerge with a structure. BONUS - Never forget this one. Blayne Weaver, Actor, Screenwriter, Director, Producer: The biggest lesson about writing get up and do it. It is a job. Iā€™m the kind of guy that I like a glass of wine, I like some music going, thatā€™s very romantic and Iā€™m sure Hemingway would be very proud but thatā€™s not really how you get a script done or how you write that many scripts and I am always writing so itā€™s like youā€™ve got to get up and spend time with your coffee. Youā€™ve got to look at it. Sometimes itā€™s just sitting there not being able to write anything that gets you 2 days later to where you can answer the question on paper. Celeste Chaney, Author: Everybody says you have to write and read everyday because itā€™s true. If you are writing everyday, the next day you are going to write a little better than you did the day before and in 4 years you are going to be a much better writer than you were 4 years ago. I think a lot of writers are waiting for the world to give you permission to pursue your craft and you need to give yourself that permission. You need to show up and say Okay Iā€™m going to do this and Iā€™m probably not going to be very good right now or maybe I am great and I donā€™t know it yet. You wonā€™t know either way unless you put yourself out there. And sitting down everyday whether thatā€™s for an hour in the morning, an hour in the evening, somewhere in-between the timing doesnā€™t matter and it really doesnā€™t even matter if youā€™re writing a 1,000 words or if youā€™re writing 50. The important thing is that youā€™re writing.
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