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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the CTS Three Kingdoms Debate Program. Our program has a dedicated channel on YouTube. Please subscribe and support us. How does China's privileged capitalism operate? How do the second and third generation of the Chinese Communist Party use their networks to compete for power and profit? Today, we are delighted to have invited the privileged individuals who were once part of China's second and third generation of Red Aristocracy. Mr. Shen Dong who has a lot of business dealings Come on our show Tell us about his personal experiences. Observations on China's powerful political system by him in China Hello Mr. Shen Dong Hello, Teacher Wang. Hello Mr. Yaita Mr. Shen is very happy Congratulations on your memoir 'Red Gamble' Finally published a Chinese version in Taiwan. When the English version of this book was published two years ago Caused a great response in the international community. There are currently 15 versions translated in different languages. There is a great impact worldwide. The "Red Gamble" specifically focuses on Your story with your ex-wife Duan Weihong How to establish connections with Chinese elites, Accumulate assets to billions of dollars In fact, most of you started from scratch. In this case And around 2017 Your wife suddenly went missing. And then he was confined for a long time. This kind of situation This book is really good, I enjoyed reading it myself. You can read this in one breath This book has also caused a great sensation in the international community. Before we talk about this book We would like to understand the current situation first. Your book has been published for two years Now there is also a Chinese version published. After this book is published What impact does it have on the case of your ex-wife Duan Weihong Is she still under investigation and surveillance by the Chinese Communist Party? What is her charge? I am glad to have the opportunity to participate in your program. I think what you just said in this segment How many points are inside? First I don't know if she is under house arrest or hard detention. Actually, he has been missing for four and a half years Second The case is currently without any case, and never has been. Never been charged or formally arrested So these four or five years The second point you just mentioned. To answer your third point, the current situation is... The current situation is She is Basically, I wrote a book It is now 2023. Released in September 2021 In September 2021, I was actually being picky. The day she went missing is the fourth anniversary. Because that book is coming out on Tuesday She called me on Sunday So basically, since then she There should be basic freedom. Because our children basically every month Maybe call her every three to four weeks. So it seems like she is also back in her home country Also moving around in other cities within the country So I think this year, About a year and a half This past year and a half should be... I don't know how much freedom But there should be basic freedom. But can her company operate normally? She serves as the chairman of the company. Do you actively participate in company activities? I believe her company has been seized. This company no longer exists. She no longer has this real estate development project. All of these are gone. OK 那這個這本書裡面 - 那 (That) - 這個 (this) - 這本書 (this book) - 裡面 (inside) Of course, there are many different Stories of the CCP elite's relationships Of course, what everyone is most concerned about is Duan Weihong and the former Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao. Intimate Relationships of Mrs. Zhang Peili Is this also one? This relationship network was established by Duan Weihong. a breakthrough point Also a key to success And this is also under the leadership of Xi Jinping. Is the main reason for this censorship of the Communist regime I don't know the specifics. Because I am with him. Actually, my first call We made our first phone call I just asked her You are 當然,請問你的問題是什麼? There is a question being asked Why were you arrested and detained? Second, what is your status in the past four years? So at that time, I thought this... Surely her phone was being tapped at that time. If there isn't someone sitting next to me Because her phone was basically disconnected and unreachable. It has been four years. So suddenly a phone call can get through This is definitely not it. It's not like I suddenly gave you a phone. Can make a global call. So her response at the time was saying She couldn't tell me. So, I believe her phone. So far. Yes, it is being monitored. She never said these two things. But since she disappeared What time is it now? About four or five years I'm sorry, could you please provide more information or context for your request? if you didn't manage your business before These privileged relationships Or you know these people who know her. Find a way to rescue him. Or at least go find out. Why was she caught in the end? To I have done this thing. However, The feeling I get from you is This level is too high No one dares to touch Even Wang Qishan dares not touch I never looked for Wang Qishan. Because of this. I want him to catch him Wang Qishan definitely knows. Because he had a very close relationship with Wang Qishan in the past. very close So, at that time When to catch her Wang Qishan is still the head of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. Xi Jinping's left and right hand Catch a person and it's Wang Qishan. Another one Fill in that position The former president of Tsinghua University So these two people We are all very familiar So I think Wang Qishan is actually one of them. I wrote this book. Because I really feel that we don't owe them anything. This At least I think And then said Wang Qishan is such a person. I feel that... Quite lamentable. Yes Yes. Because it looks like from your book The whole process. Duong Wei Hong and Wang Qishan have a very close relationship And many times Wang Qishan Personal relationship Utilizing his close relationship with Duan Weihong Find out the latest news about Wen Jiabao. To Had such an impression. Because at that time Wang Qishan is still the mayor of Beijing. Not yet promoted to Deputy Prime Minister Including until the Vice President and beyond He used his relationship with Duan Weihong Inquire about the Prime Minister's news He inquires about the Prime Minister's opinion of him. Or opinions on his work Or how Wen Jiabao sees certain things Yes Yes But But when Duan Weihong was caught, Wang Qishan is the secretary of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection It is possible in some sense that it is Wang Qishan. Catch him in the act. That should be it. That should be it That means To some extent, it is actually in this book. There are many different chapters. Different Stories Actually, I just saw Just now Within this Chinese system What exactly is this What is human nature? Anything can be sacrificed. Actually, there are many These relationships are all How should I say it? That means all the relationships are Built on a relationship of interest When the interests change The nature of this relationship can be completely changed. Yes It's totally a situation of mutual benefit. 等一下 You just restricted this What kind of confinement is he in Of course, I'm not quite sure. I have a friend. There's such an example He is It's still the era of Hu Jintao He is one of the first in China Master's student studying finance And then in one A very large securities company in China. serving as the secretary to this CEO boss. And then later It is said that there is I don't know how Lost a large sum of money in investment And what about this boss? Because of the central government The boss managed to save himself. If this loses money... Many people have responsibilities. My friend is a secretary. He also bears some responsibility. But he said it once Meeting in a city in the western part of China Suddenly afterwards, The Central Commission for Discipline Inspection took him away. And then he was put under house arrest. Inside a hotel And there were four armed police watching him And these four armed police officers take turns watching him. Yes, you can talk to him. Discussing things about life Case discussions were not allowed And then? Every now and then, one or two weeks passed. There will be a disciplinary official Understand the situation Didn't catch him either. This is delicious and refreshing. No going out. And not allowed to have any contact with the outside world So all his relatives and friends Including his family Everyone thought he disappeared This lasted for a year and a half It lasted for one and a half years. And he became more and more afraid. And he watches TV. See my old boss at the time Later, transferred to another city. When the Municipal Party Secretary left And then he felt The boss has been completely secured. If things don't go well, blame it all on me This large sum of money I might say that the death penalty is uncertain So how do you want to save yourself? And accompany him. He's good at playing chess So you're saying he was with the SWAT team The armed police see that he is fine. He is also fine. He is playing chess with a military police officer. Doing particularly well every day He has a police officer Temporarily saying he wants to demobilize And then he said, 'You now' After you demobilize Find me one A good brother in Beijing You go find him Sure, please provide the text you would like me to translate. You go find him to collect 100,000 dollars He gave you one hundred thousand dollars. And then you tell him where I am. What's going on? They will be able to save me. My friend has a lot of connections too After retiring from the armed police, the result is Do as he instructed Go find his friend. After giving him the money, They're just friends. These friends just found out Why is he locked up and where? And it took a lot of effort He was rescued. After being rescued Anyway, he said he has a sequelae. After he comes out His wife ran away. And then he sat down in the securities. All of his money All placed on his wife's passing Inside Mom's account So the wife ran away Mom also ran along So he has no money left. Then he went abroad. It's essentially the same as saying Later, he analyzed that He has been in control for the past year and a half. Who will be held accountable for this deficit? Various forces are pushing and pulling each other. If they are all related If there is an event, We may be able to save ourselves. But if you take control Your friends don't know where you went. No way to save himself at all It's not the same with Duan Weihong's situation. Of course not the same This is a smaller case. But that's to say After complete control, Restricted access to anyone I don't know the details of the case. Yes, it is for us. From the perspective of Taiwan This is a country without the rule of law. He can grab you in any way. But it didn't go through the proper channels Legal process If according to China's criminal This process of the trial law You cannot arrest people at will. After you arrest someone, You have some time You are going to sue him. Otherwise, you have to let him go. There is none in China. He can dispose of people as he pleases Yes, yes, yes. After Xiao Jianhua was arrested, It has been many years since I was sentenced. Five years Where does such a thing happen? Laws in any country have long exceeded the statute of limitations. Actually, this is what it means. We do business in China. Basically, this kind of thing In the friend circle Everyone has experienced it So the earliest of everyone Just an estimate About ten or twenty years ago Everyone's opinions what you endured for two years You can hold on for two more years. Do you want to say anything? It can basically be resolved within two years They gave up too. And then you... But you just bite people. Then it's no longer It's hard to say how this will eventually develop. This was the beginning at the time. So when we start Yes, I was just thinking, okay. Just grab the first one in September. He said by the end of the year. Isn't that a bit concerning? The end of the year has passed. And then the lunar New Year And speaking of the Lunar New Year, there should be some news, right? Nothing Then it quickly became an endless Endless things to do, this matter. Because I just said that his situation is different. She was passive. No Everyone in the circle knows. Actually, when she disappeared Later, if I remember correctly, Reported by The New York Times. There was an article reporting that she disappeared So then this This circle in Beijing We know too many people. She disappeared Everyone knows. Not like this This is the situation where you know that friend. To And basically, my concept is No one dares to move. Because she went missing And now, look where we are today Actually, it is definitely related to politics. It is related to high-level politics. That situation. In the current situation, High-level politics is a matter of life and death. Who dares to touch Right Of course, everyone thinks so. This may be related to Weng Jia. Or, the power struggle between Xi Jinping and Wen Jiabao. It's not a big deal. Sure, what would you like to know? This book also mentions How did Duan Weihong initially meet Wen Jiabao's wife This is actually a very dramatic process. He told me himself He is Probably don't know each other Not too long ago, right? And then it's their ladies' gathering. Three women in their thirties have dinner at night. And then Duan Weihong's reality. Actually, he is a very eloquent person. And his And he can speak eloquently. Can't we just We can talk in Beijing dialect Yes, she really is. Read a lot of books. And her memory is particularly strong. And she can express it eloquently. This is What Greek philosophy book... Give you two chapters And then This is the ability It is felt by everyone. Wow This is astonishing This can't be described as breathtaking. I also find it absolutely impressive So she was the one at that time They exchanged phones. At that time, he was still the vice president. Not yet. Wen Jiabao is still the vice premier Then, Duan Weihong After dinner, actually, Actually, I've never looked for Zhang Peili. At that time, Duan Weihong I have started my own real estate company. She had just moved to Beijing at that time. She just took that The business in Tianjin just finished. Just moved to Beijing to do telecommunications business. Telecommunications So what's next? And then about a week passed. Zhang Peili gives him a call Why didn't you give me a call? Why don't you call me? I didn't give you my phone number. And then just from that point they start dating. So she said. She was Don't call Zhang Peili on purpose. Because I feel Everyone is chasing after this position Contact Zhang Peili So she said that chasing after him is pointless. So, however, Actually, a certain kind Hong Kong people say 'hang it up and sell it.' Hanging and selling. Just say you see everyone Don't let him chase after you. I look arrogant And this is also it. Actually, it was a process. Chasing girls in college You also need to have such skills. There is such a one. It was quite an interesting process Yes, but you... But to some extent, You can disgust yourself. I have a certain level of confidence. Yes Mr. Shen, then it seems that you mentioned in your book... You and Duan Weihong When it comes to love He also needs to find Auntie Zhang is here to meet you. Nice to meet you Let me judge you. Trustworthy or not trustworthy Can she marry you? Actually, It is also a very interesting thing. Actually, there are a few points here. The first point is that Because in China, Power field Includes Especially the power field. That is to say Usually it's a couple's alliance You said you watched it Including corrupt officials. He sleeps with many women. Why does he want to sleep with those women? That means he... He still had a large sum of money Put it with those women As long as he didn't sleep with that woman. He feels uneasy. I want to make this person mine. So, therefore, in Because as we just said, the officialdom is just China lacks a legal system. In fact, it's all about trust and mutual understanding. So many things rely on this Maintaining trust and mutual understanding Because the law cannot guarantee your So that means. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "選". Could you please provide more context or clarify your request? Spouse is particularly important Especially In this situation Intend to partner with Wen Jia When doing things Choosing a spouse is very important And Wen Jia will also care very much. Who are you really hanging out with? So, from this perspective, From this perspective He needs to get one from Wen Jia. You can't say permission either. This is one. blessing So this is a point. The second point is that... It's also a way to bring the relationship closer Right I consider you as my own mother Right, isn't it? You see, I pick my husband carefully. You need your permission. I want to get your blessing That's why I would marry this person The relationship is very close. So actually, At that time, this action These two layers I think are crucial. It's crucial Of course, there is also one. Because they started to have a close relationship. She wishes to find a close confidante. I'm sorry, but I need more information in order to assist you. Could you please provide the text that you would like me to translate into English? Sorry, I am unable to translate the phrase without knowing the source language. Can you please provide the source language? Take a look at this concept Right, isn't it? But I think the first two are the main ones But it seems From my perspective Auntie Zhang seems to have gotten the wrong message. As his own goddaughter Treat it this way. Why does she have children with him? She has one son and one daughter. Is the relationship not that good? I think it's like this One thing is to say Hers Their children's words His daughter is indeed very This Miss is quite unruly. So it's difficult to handle. So his son Because he actually needs Because Dan Wei Hong is doing things around him His children won't do it. Basically, it's a How should I put it How to say something really offensive. He is the chief eunuch by the Emperor's side. Right What about your daughter? I won't help you do these things. Yes, you can consider me as a personal assistant. Right, isn't it? What do you want? He thinks of you first What might you want? He also helps you think. and this Duan Weihong has especially strong abilities And then, he said, What you plan to do She helped you to execute it. This is not something that all children can do. Is It makes sense Of course, here. On an important discussion topic Especially The New York Times at that time Revealed about Issues with Ping An Insurance Corporation Can this translate this? Before and after the event or this case How do you follow Wen Jiabao's Family Cooperation We went together to buy Ping An Insurance Corporation shares And how to profit from this entire process Let me tell everyone the story. This has to do with Do you think the report from the New York Times at that time There could be some things that are actually non-existent Discovering the truth of the matter First of all, actually, It was at that time Because Ping An Insurance initiated shareholders There are three initiating shareholders. One is if I This happened many years ago. Cosco Exactly, COSCO is one that The Shenzhen Municipal Government is a There should be more. There is also one that should be China Merchants Group. Do you know about the shipping industry? Very large fluctuation So that was a while ago. Cosco COSCO His performance is not good So he wants to sell that share. Then sell a portion President Wei Jiafu at the time To the Wei family fortune For the sake of performance He wants to sell the Ping An Insurance stocks he holds. Corporate shares sold Sell a portion of it Because he made a profit. Because of this period of time His net asset value of ANA has increased. Then, if there are any additional value-added services He bought it and then took it away. He can recharge his account on his account. So that's the reason So after we received this message This is the place where Dan Wei-Hong went to Shenzhen. Wei Jiafu was seen. So at that time Actually, it's just for buying So we need to discuss this with Wen Jia. So Wen Jia Because Wen Jiaqi actually has a daughter We will provide feedback on this matter. Because he used to work in finance. And I always want to hear it at home. And his daughter disagrees. Because this is also an explanation. Actually, at that time Because it was very early at that time Actually, the premise of buying Actually, we knew at the time This is also said by Ma Mingzhe himself. It could be half a year. They are negotiating with HSBC. Investing in HSBC So at that time So that was the thinking at the time. Because actually at that time it was very early The insurance industry has just started At that time, our idea was that Come in, HSBC. That's the bottom. This thing will definitely not fall. There won't be any problems. So the outlook should be positive. But in the end, what Can you see How much money can I make? That's conceptless I have no idea. So And at that time, So in the end, they said... There is also talk of buying in and out of the United States. Saying not to buy And then we said Then you don't buy it, we'll buy it ourselves. When we reached this point They say they also bought So they also bought it. So that's how it is. Ok Let's go buy this batch of stocks together. So the stock I told you. But I'm sorry. 好的,請問有什麼需要幫忙的嗎? Your wife works at Company Stephen Red. Or it's Wen Jia They each contribute money Buy this corporate stock Safe legal entity stocks Purchased from China Far Where did this money come from Where did Wen Jia's money come from? Actually, all of this is borrowed from outside. All of them are borrowed from outside financing. Actually, this was already the case at that time. How many years ago was that? About twenty years ago Twenty years ago, China was Basically it's Very common You are fundraising outside. Borrow some money and come back And then bought this batch of stocks. So actually it's a bridge loan And then he bought this batch of stocks. And sell these batch of stocks Pledge to the bank And then pledge this amount Return it to the borrower It's just a path to bridge financing. Around the years 2001 and 2002 Around 2002. It should be about the same. So, this is So why is that? Actually, if this is Actually, the shareholders in Ma Mingzhe's company Basically, this is how it's done. So you go and see. Ping An Insurance every year's Annual dividends His dividend must be Sufficient to cover bank interest He basically set it at 5% Bank interest is generally... The interest rate for loans is generally lower than this And he definitely takes care of everyone. This should possibly include oneself Yes, many small shareholders of Ping An Insurance Actually, it's his agent. Yes So it must be like this. So at that time... If I remember correctly Actually, we have done a lot of research When we bought it at that time The market price at that time was Net asset price plus 5% 10% like this So this is the regular market price. So at that time, I was also the same age There are two other companies. There are two transactions in Ping An's legal person shares So the price we bought is actually the same. All are market prices. So from this perspective Now, let me explain. I earned a lot of money, what do you say? Something something It's like a privilege trade Actually, from this perspective Your only privilege transaction is to speak. We are willing to buy. And we have received this message. And we have the ability to buy it. Just like that. Because there were also other trades in the market It has nothing to do with us. My price is not lower than others. Where is this aristocratic transaction? Of course, from a Western perspective If China Merchants International wants to sell this stock, There should be a public market auction. Let's see who is willing to pay the highest price to buy it. In this case, for Zhongyuan For the shareholders of COSCO This is the most advantageous. But it's not like that. At the time there was no such mechanism There is no such mechanism in China anymore. The other two transactions also did not follow this mechanism. And the price at that time You can't sell it for a higher price than this. Increase net assets by 10% You simply cannot sell at a higher price than this. Otherwise, other shareholders will also. If it can be auctioned for a higher price I believe other shareholders will too. Those two transactions will also do this. They didn't do it either Because the market simply does not accept this higher price. Mr. Yaita, do you have any questions? I just mentioned when it was reported by The New York Times I was truly amazed in Beijing. Actually, we are in Beijing. Among our impression of the powerful families What is Jiang Zemin's family like? Deng Xiaoping's family Ye Jianying's Ye Family The Zhou family, including Zhou Yongkang, is very wealthy. Wen Jiabao seemed to have a decent image at that time. Of course, the reputation of Wen Jiabao's wife and son, Wen Yunsong, is not very good. I know some second-generation Red friends. They all say he is a high-ranking official's son. Has a very domineering feeling. Doing business is a bit But speaking of Wen Jiabao Another impression is that Wen Jiabao's mother also appeared. Wen Jiabao's mother is over 90 years old. I think Wen Jiabao is very good at acting. I think he gives a very good impression. Wen Jiabao went to Japan once. And then in the parliamentary speech And then when he was speaking he read it out There is a section discussing the relationship between Japan and China. Talking about post-war history in Japan Japan is very hardworking. Overcome this Maintain a peaceful route and good relations with Asian countries. That part of the review about Japan. Wen Jiabao couldn't pronounce it and skipped over it. Later, we thought it was intentional. The article was sent to our reporters in advance. Skip to the front After jumping over And then he went back. And the next morning when I woke up When he came out of the hotel All reporters surrounded him. And then they asked him why that part wasn't read. Because Japanese people care a lot about this. And as soon as he came up, he said Last night I called my 90-year-old mother. Then my mom said, You explained that relationship really well. It is important to have good relations with Japan. Then I felt very encouraged. When he said this Bringing up this topic about mom. No one dares to ask And Wen Jiabao often Using this image of being a filial child Actually, give him a lot of points. So, I think Wen Jiabao has made a lasting impression on everyone was a very good impression Suddenly came out in The New York Times I didn't know Wenjia was this big. It is one of these few major families This has had a significant impact on us. Another one we have with The New York Times It is also a competitive relationship He can break such big news It has also been a great impact for us. Later on, I heard that this was also Wen Jiabao. The reason for the conflict with Bo Xilai Regarding the story of The New York Times Suddenly, Wen Jiabao's mother, who is in her 90s Became a millionaire. He has a large amount of Ping An Insurance stocks. What do you think about this matter? Mistakes in the operations, especially by Aunt Zhang, were made. This is completely to say I think it says inside Let's go along with the points Mr. Yazawa just mentioned. Actually, I have been inside the book the whole time. Many other people do not fully agree. But this is indeed my own experience. That is to say, in their family's business operations Wen Jiabao did not participate. And Wen Jiabao himself actually has no idea So this is the first point Specifically, it relates to the issue of safety. Actually, it started back then. All the stocks are under the name of Duan Weihong. But with the rapid growth of market prices From this stock price We should have calculated the cost at that time. It's probably around two dollars. And when we strike It's probably about sixty dollars. This is it. When it comes to the value of billions of dollars He just feels that no matter how close he is to you The goddaughter you just mentioned But I still don't trust you with it. But such a large amount of money He made a decision Put it under Wen Jiabao's mother's name. But this is a fatal error. Fatal error Because if there were no fatal error How did the media report that you have no evidence? You put it under the name of Wen Jiabao's mother This is irreplaceable evidence. But is this the matter? Or this report from The New York Times Exploited by Xi Jinping to purge Wen Jiabao Or at least politically Give Wen Jiabao a means of the tightening curse We don't think so. We met back then. My understanding has always been that Actually, a few months before it was published in The New York Times. Bloomberg also reported. Nixon's assets in Hong Kong His sister, mainly. Some assets of his sister's family in Hong Kong As the New York Times later reported on this matter So at that time in the central, the understanding This is a series of operations in the United States. Come and fight us So, what you're saying is... The previous incident involving Xi Jinping Provided a great cover for Wen Jia You are talking about the reported incident involving Xi Jinping himself. Instead, it covered up this for the Wen family. Yes, because the central government believes so. It's just a series of operations by the United States. To attack us And then he said he was firm in his overall confidence. Everyone's confident that they can get this thing done. You specifically mentioned in this book Before Xi Jinping officially took office in 2012 He was already the Vice President of the country at that time. But it is already confirmed that he will become The President and the General Secretary You and Zhang Peili and Duan Weihong You and your spouse with Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan Let's have a meal together. But after that dinner party I don't have any special impression of Xi Jinping. Why did President Xi Jinping and his wife agree to have dinner with you? And you observed so closely from this dinner party When their relationship as a couple Did you get any special impression Are those two people Is Peng Liyuan taking charge? I think we should go back to your previous question. In other words, Wen Jiabao was actually talking to Xi Jinping It should be considered in the case of Bo Xilai. It is a complete strategic alliance. So you mean they even... I have a very specific explanation of how they collaborated. Take down Bo Xilai. So from this perspective They are a strategic duo. Some degree of this alliance relationship So this is actually Why did Xi Jinping become the president later? The New York Times Duan Weihong has always believed in this matter. He will not have any problem. Because of the relationship between the Wen family and the Xi family Teamwork Furthermore, remove it. Take down Bo Xilai's against Xi Jinping Today's complete control It has a key role. So this is something. On the specific day mentioned The matter of that meal I didn't go to the meal with Wei Hong. It is Auntie Duan Weihong and Xi Jinping's wife Xi Jinping, the two of them Why did you say that? They are usually these two There's approximately one A goddaughter brought it with her And because she is also a woman This is more convenient So afterward, Duān Wěihóng This conversation with me is about First, at that time, actually Actually, to be honest, everyone... The power circle should have appeared Maybe not everyone is very familiar with What is Xibo Zhi? Who will be the one, Xi Jinping or Li Keqiang? Decided very late Before ascending to power There is one month left. Who actually did it. There is not one that says it started early He had already settled down a few years ago. Xi Jinping served as Premier Not this situation. So basically... In this case, And both of them are standing committee members. Right, correct So, Xi Jinping does have this. Building a good relationship with the current prime minister This is the dinner party. Actually, it's something you should have Of course, Wenjia also has this need. Both the future prime minister and the leader Building a certain relationship is essential. Stronger foundation of relationship So this is the first point The second point is... Wen Jia is actually outside. Why did I say Wen Jiabao Actually, he wasn't involved in the family. He is also unclear about the family business. Representative of Wenjia outside Zhang Peili Representing the Wen Family: Zhang Peili All movements on the scene Including me in the book Including the choice of officials. This kind of background investigation... It's all his. So they have a very close relationship as a couple. So Wen Jiabao was being honest Actually, when he was prime minister He is also not convenient to meet those people. Especially if the two members of the Standing Committee meet privately Are you two planning to revolt? Right, isn't it? These two standing committee members cannot meet privately. So the dinner between Zhang Peili and Xi Jinping and their spouses So the hindsight is that Tidying up the meal means that Xi Jinping didn't say much. Basically, it's all scenes of his wife shopping there. So this is also a very, very strange thing. The reason everyone came out is to build relationships. If everyone gets along, You're not speaking again. Let your wife speak fully. This is also a very strange thing. So this one left a deep impression on me. Yes, but in a sense it caused consequences later. A Certain Misjudgment by Duan Weihong He believes that Wen Jiabao had a good relationship with Xi Jinping. Then both Xi Jinping and Wen Jiabao There is a mutual interest and common benefit relationship between them. So, the relationship between Duan Weihong and Wen Jia is so close. Xi Jinping probably won't take action against Duan Weihong. He has such a judgment. There is such a judgment. This judgement is proven to be incorrect. To I remember this about Xi Jinping. I had an eventful time in Beijing back then. All are elderly gentlemen of the reformist faction during the era of Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang. That magazine was very famous at that time. At that time, I was in Beijing and I often communicated with them. And before Xi Jinping came into power We rarely talk to each other. No one knows what he was thinking. And the etiquette is done very well. For example, Hu Yaobang and Xi Zhongxun were allies. Just fell together And Xi Jinping visits the wife of Hu Yaobang every year. Go to visit Hu Yaobang's home every year. And then to those few children of Hu Yaobang He calls them both big brother. Both big brother and second big brother are very polite. And to those reformists There was a reformist who was heading south at that time. Have served as the Party Secretary of Fujian Province Xi Jinping is also towards the families in the South Because Xi Jinping was taken care of when he first arrived in Fujian Very polite Very well said. So at that time, those reformists like Director Du Zheng Everyone thought that Xi Jinping was a reformist. And sometimes like Hu Deping of Hu Yaobang A few of them are saying that China needs to reform. You can't continue like this. What do we need overall? And Xi Jinping said at the time He was already the Vice President of the country I'm about to succeed the throne soon. He said I am just a listener. I do whatever they tell me to do. I have no voice All use this attitude When Xi Jinping first took office There are very high expectations for him from the reformists. Because later I didn't realize that he is one A person with a mind full of imperial thoughts. So, this process This is the most important question. Whether they are reformists within the party Or it's the Crown Prince Party or Wen's family Or it's Hu Jintao Various aspects including Duan Weihong It seems that they all misjudged Xi Jinping Why did everyone misjudge him? I think this is very very interesting A riddle, in fact, is a puzzle. Why do I feel Let me start by saying this. Just follow what you just said. As you just mentioned, he is opposed to this. The elderly are very respected. And looks very humble. So we were also Just like in the circle of Beijing, Everyone is asking about Xi Jinping. What kind of person is he/she? So we also saw them. The people he worked with in Fujian before People working with him in Zhejiang A consensus among everyone It is not our judgment. The consensus among everyone is that This is an incompetent person. Because he has been in the past few decades There are basically no achievements to speak of. But of course, pure bloodline, right? So I feel that Maybe it was just back then Pass the Parcel It means this musical chair This is how the game of passing the drum goes. Whatever he wants to do according to his plan There is not much difference from previous policies. Basically, this is Beijing at that time. Consensus within the community Another thing is that he was Actually, his foundation is the Redmi 2nd generation. The red bloodline is his foundation. Because he doesn't have this influential circle. So the red bloodline is his basic foundation. There was a rumor in Beijing at that time There is a general saying. In other words, what is being said is It's difficult to hear, but the door is open. Move aside, please. And then the young master came back. The meaning of '他們看門' is... Both Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin are gatekeepers. The young master has returned now. So this is the one at the time. This is Beijing at that time. When he was about to take office Overall situation And his opinion about it So, I think now, looking back Of course, you would think he is a In the Chinese power field, The Manipulation of Power Also incredibly perfect An operator In history, he seems more like Wang Meng. Wang Meng still has certain abilities. At that time, something... The Legend of Red Second Generation in Beijing The circle you mentioned There was a Hong Kong movie at that time. A novel called 'The Proud Twins' It is said that the Princeling Party has the TV series 'Jue Dai Shuang Jiao' Are you referring to Xi Jinping and Bo Xilai? Bo Xilai is unscrupulous. Xi Jinping is incompetent. It seems that it is a consensus among many people that Xi Jinping is incompetent. And now we can also see Now is not the time to speak. Xi Jinping is doing a great job. Do evil things without leaving a trace This is about the Communist Party. Basically, he is Power struggle is very skilled. But governing a country is indeed not possible. Overall, this is Now, let's take a look back It has been ten years. It has passed the age of twenty. The two meetings have passed. After the new leadership team took office, What do you think now? Xi Jinping and the so-called I once staunchly supported him. Support his second generation of red, the third generation of red. What kind of relationship is a network relationship The relationship should be said to be very tense. I have a few points. It means the incident involving Wu Xiaohui. The death of Chen Xiaolu That's actually it. For the second generation of the Red Family, Chen Xiaolu is considered a person within the circle. A boss What you mean is that you are doing this Wu Xiaohui Even Chen Xiaolu was involved. You said it It's frustrating to some extent. Actually, this circle has also been shaken. Also shook One more thing I would like to mention Actually, what it means is In China Each big Businessman There is something behind The capital of the crimson bloodline is contained within it. He is now this large-scale Massive in the past decade Fight this capitalism Actually, it hurt. Crimson Bloodline Their enormous interests So From this perspective Including breaking off diplomatic relations with the international community Basically, we're completely done with America. In this situation, Actually Significant damage has been done. The benefits of the red-blooded lineage And if a dictator reaches this point... Actually, he is too To some extent He is also with the red bloodline. The red bloodline This group is a bit broken. Because he doesn't want them Come be his Future threats So this time Really is a loner The people of the emperor are all lonely and few in number. So the people he promoted at the 20th It was all when he was in Fujian. Zhejiang has a working relationship with him. But it's his secretary. So he is equivalent to Emperors in the past were like this Either it's reusing the harem Either recycle or reuse He is equivalent to a eunuch now. And those in the imperial harem Imperial relatives and noble families He doesn't care anymore It's such a relationship I think it can be described like this Because you watch him like this. This person is being promoted now. In the past, at Just ten years ago it's totally unqualified. No one in this circle in Beijing is thinking What committees they will join Even the high-ranking officials wouldn't consider it. This group of people It's simply not in the same circle. Someone in disguise Of course, this is the type you just mentioned. Promoted ahead of peers But as long as you promote her even higher, Promoting too fast offends many many Beneficiaries of vested interests So, actually, this is also a problem. And this problem is about his future. That is to say Implementing his policies Implementing his ideas It will cause significant obstacles at the execution level. I think I feel that it's now. In other words, what did we just talk about? The home of Bo Yibo and the home of Zhou Yongkang Ye Jianying's family are all... The red privileged are everywhere in the world. Assets, I think maybe a few years later. What will appear at Wang Xiaohong's home What about Li Qiang's family What Li Xi's family may have These people, now they... Property is still being accumulated. Maybe they will have something new when they come up Nobles may appear Between the new nobility and the old nobility I think there must be a competitive relationship. And in the future, China may even be a New Bloodshed will be discovered. I feel a storm coming 1. Hello 2. Goodbye 3. Thank you 4. Sorry 5. Yes 6. No 7. Please 8. Excuse me 9. How are you? 10. I'm fine, thank you 11. What's your name? 12. My name is [name] 13. Where are you from? 14. I am from [country] 15. Can you help me? 16. I don't understand 17. Where is the restroom? 18. How much is it? 19. What time is it? 20. Have a nice day A bit heavy, huh? But it is definitely I believe that the new aristocracy will definitely emerge. Because this system is just this system. Including the previous edition National Chairman of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference What's that person called? He didn't enroll at that time. His daughter is Jia Qinglin Not the previous edition Just stepped down Yangtze Vice Premier Wang Yang Chairman of the CPPCC, Wang Yang Now Now I'm going to become the Chairman of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference Wang Huning Chairman Wang Yang, you are talking about the National People's Congress. National People's Congress Hasn't the Hong Kong media already reported? Ku Zhan Shu Hasn't Li Zhanshu already reported? Hong Kong media have all reported it. Capital market in Hong Kong This massive operation This matter has already come out. Yes But as of now, the Li family... Not yet processed There is still a lot more to this story. If you're interested, hurry up and buy this book! This red gambling table Just now in Taiwan This publication This should be the English version The First Time in the Chinese World This book is published. The day is almost over. Thank you, Mr. Shen Dong. Thank you, Mr. Yaita. Thank you, audience Thank you, everyone.
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