OF ANY NEWS BREAKS, JUST COME BACK. WE'LL BE HERE TO 9:00. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. BARBARA MCQUADE IS A ATTORNEY FOR THE EASTERN PART OF MICHIGAN. NOW TEACHES AT THE MICHIGAN LAW SCHOOL. SHE JOINS ME NOW. I ASK GLORIA THIS QUESTION BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU, BARBARA, WHAT AS YOU READ THIS INDICTMENT WHAT WAS THE BIGGEST LEGAL PERIL TO DONALD TRUMP? >> I THINK THIS DETAIL OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, ABOUT WHAT THE BOSS WANTS, IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND AS LAURA SAID PROSECUTORS REFER TO THIS AS CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT. DONALD TRUMP'S DEFENSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AHEAD EVERY RIGHT TO HOLD ON TO THESE DOCUMENTS. IF THAT WERE TRUE THAT WOULD BE NO NEED TO DESTROY A VIDEO OF PEOPLE MOVING THESE BOXES AROUND. AND SO THIS REALLY HITS HOME WITH THIS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE CHARGE. CERTAINLY THE ADDITION OF THE BEDMINSTER DOCUMENT IS INTERESTING, BUT IT WAS ALREADY IN THE INDICTMENT, SO I THINK THIS NEW OBSTRUCTION IS REALLY FASCINATING. IT WOULD BE USEFUL, PERHAPS, TO HAVE THE NEW DEFENDANT TURN, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR WITH THIS EMPLOYEE 4, WHO WAS CLEARLY IN THE CLOSET WITH HIM AND HEARD WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. AND SO I THINK THIS IS JUST REALLY POWERFUL EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THAT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE SCHEME REALLY, IT SEEMS TO, ME VERY DIFFICULT TO DEFEND AGAINST. >> WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS, MAYBE YOU DID, BUT MOST OF US WERE NOT EXPECTING THIS TODAY. THERE IS ONE SPECIFIC DOCUMENT, THIS IRAN WERE PLANNED DOCUMENT, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER DOCUMENTS LISTED IN THE ORIGINAL INDICTMENT AND OUR LIST OF AGAIN HERE THERE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE LAST SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT? OR COULD THERE BE MORE THAT JACK SMITH AND HIS TEAM AND THE GRANDEUR IT COULD BE CONSIDERING? >> YOU NEVER KNOW. I'VE HAD CASES I'VE SEEN LIKE SEVEN SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT. BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THERE MIGHT BE A REASON TO REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT, EVEN IF YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD KEEP ADDING MORE EVIDENCE. THAT'S THE CLOCK, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU SUPERSEDE THERE'S AN ARGUMENT BY THE DEFENSE THAT SHOULD PUSH OUT THE TRIAL DATE. WE'LL SEE IF DAME TRUMP TRIES TO DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU JUST GET THAT MAIL TRIAL DATE FROM THE JUDGE IN THIS CASE, WHICH STRUCK ME AS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. BUT NOW WITH A NEW DEFENDANT WHO'S GOT TO GET HIS LAWYER UP TO SPEED, AND ON TRUMP WILL SAY, THESE FACTS AND ALLEGATIONS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OBTAIN WERE DISCOVERED ABOUT ALL THIS. THERE IS A REASON TO KICK THAT DOWN THE ROAD. EVERY TIME YOU SUPERSEDE, THERE IS A RISK OF EXTENDING THE TRIAL DATE. IN THIS CASE, UNIQUE TO THIS CASE, ON THE OTHER END, IS OF COURSE THE ELECTION. AND I THINK PROSECUTORS HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT THAT THAT IS A TICKING CLOCK. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT TO EXTEND THE TRIAL DATE PAST THE MAY DAY THAT AILEEN CANNON JUST SET. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HEAR MORE ABOUT SOON? COULD THAT BE THE AND ASK THAT THE TRUMP TEAM IS GOING TO A LIE AIMING CAMERON WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS? >> I THINK THE WAIT FOR THE NEW DEFENDANT FIRST, WHICH WILL LIKELY TAKE PLACE SOON, I WOULD IMAGINE, AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT DATE IT WOULD SEEM APPROPRIATE FOR THE PARTIES TO ASK TO RESET DATES IN THIS CASE, IN LIGHT OF ADDITIONAL DISCOVERY, AND THAT DEFENDANTS ABILITY TO GET UP TO SPEED. I WOULD SAY AFTER THE ARRAIGNMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD EXPECT, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME. >> WE WERE WAITING FOR NEWS ON A DIFFERENT INDICTMENT, OF COURSE, THIS MORNING, WHICH WE DIDN'T RECEIVE. WE RECEIVED THIS INSTEAD. HOW DOES THIS IMPACT, OR DOES IT IMPACT AT ALL, THE TIMELINE OF THE INDICTMENT ON THE EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION AND ON TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT IN THAT? >> I DON'T THINK IT IMPACTS THE INDICTMENT THAT MAY BE FILED. I THINK IT'S A REAL CERTAINTY THAT IT IS COM MY GUESS IS IT'S PROBABLY NOT COMING UNTIL AFTER THOSE REMAINING WITNESSES TESTIFYING OR SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST. SO I'M A LITTLE LESS INCLINED TO THINK IT'S COMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. BUT I DO THINK THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE TO THE TIMING HERE. SO IF THE TRIAL DATE IN THE MAR-A-LAGO CASE GETS PUSHED DOWN TO JUNE OR JULY, I THINK THIS ONE PROBABLY TRAILS BEHIND. EVERY TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS WE CAN SEE THE JANUARY SIX TRIAL GETTING PUSHED INTO LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL OF 2024. AT SOME POINT THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE TOO CLOSE TO ELECTION ACTUALLY HAS SOME MERIT.
